[SOLVED] Good intro to OC

[JBuckland]

I'm in the process of buying the parts for my first build and could use some advice. The purpose of my build is to try and do some gaming in 4k with reasonable frame rates and settings when connected to my Acer RT280k (Link). So far I only have the RAM and the PSU but I'm relatively set on getting a VEGA 64 GPU and the MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC motherboard. I am completely new to overclocking but do have a good understanding of what is going on so just wanted to ask about the best parts to gently ease myself in without worrying about breaking anything. My questions are mainly based around the CPU and cooling but I'd be happy to hear suggestions about other parts. As far the the CPU goes I had been set on the 2700x but have been reading that in gaming performance it isn't much difference to the 2600x? Also, if OC is my plan am I better of with the 2700 or 2600 anyway and if I did go with the ryzen 5 where would I best invest the money saved?

As far as cooling goes I haven't installed anything other than a 120mm fan before so the idea of a custom water cooling loop was a little too scary but if there are noticeable gains against an AIO solution I would be willing to give it a try. I have been holding out on the case decision until I have purchased my cooling but if I wanted say a 360mm AIO that will take up a lot of room is there any case decisions I really need to know ahead of time?

Silly question, I keep hearing the phrase "push-pull" for fan arrangements is that as simple as fans mounted on both sides of the radiator both pointing in the same direction?

Any help is greatly appreciated!


EDIT: current build ideas - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6rD3pG

 

[Supahos]

Often the 2600x actually beats a 2700x in gaming.

Neither of those cpus need a 360mm rad aio. Both can reach max clocks with most if not all $60+ air coolers with good temps.

 

[JBuckland]

Often the 2600x actually beats a 2700x in gaming.

Neither of those cpus need a 360mm rad aio. Both can reach max clocks with most if not all $60+ air coolers with good temps.

I still don't think I have a good understanding of what the best cooling options are at the moment I had just figured AIO > Air but is that not the case? Also are there much differences when it comes to noise? As it will be running next to me on the desk.

 

[Supahos]

Almost nothing is quieter than a noctua dh14/dh15se both easily capable of cooling either of those CPUs at 4.2 or 4.3 if the chip is capable. They have basically an infinite lifespan unlike any and all aio coolers as eventually either the pump will fail or enough coolant will evaporate to make it not perform properly

 

[Supahos]

PS: that Vega 64 is the best cooling one on the market if you're going to get on that is the one to get

 

[JBuckland]

I went ahead and ordered a 2600x as it came in a good bundle with the motherboard I wanted and after you recommended the NITRO+ I ordered that as well so a busy night for me. Just the case, cooling and storage to go. Is Noctua a well regarded brand then? As I find the cooler a little "ugly" but it seems to get great reviews, I could probably forgo a little noise if it looked better with my build I think that was part of my thinking with the AIO I liked how clean it looks.

 

[Supahos]

Mostly it's the cost and risk of leaks while small isn't zero on aio cooler. The noctua coolers are bulletproof but are certainly not pretty to look at nzxt kracken coolers are the best looking aio