Good pc build?

[bendrjackson]

So recently I started to look for parts for a new pc because my current pc, while decent is becoming incompatible, outdated and had started having problems.

My goal of this build is to make it much more compatible and easily upgrade-able unlike my old pc which once upon a time was a basic $750 AU "gaming" pc. I am running on a budget of around $2200 AU ($1729 US) and these are the parts that are available to me here in Australia. I am using a branch called umart which has good deals and is very close to me but unfortunately doesn't have everything.

Here they are, if you have suggestions on improving this please let me know.
https://imgur.com/a/LVHJo

 

[Jwpanz]

You’re proposed build looks solid. I’m not sure about the Z370 being a good upgrade path as Intel has not released any details for the future of that socket. Their track record would suggest that their next CPU lineup will require a new motherboard chipset.

A good “future proof” path would be the Ryzen lineup. Ryzen+ CPU’s should be coming out soon and will work in the AM4 socket. And AMD has said their AM4 socket will be compatible with newer chips for the next few years.

 

[vapour]

The build will work, but has some flaws.
1. Ram too slow, get 3000+ if you can
2. No need for water cooling with 8400, stock is just fine
3. motherboard is on the low side

Nothing will be future proof, literally nothing. You always build for current need and perhaps considering a little bit future needs. What is your current and potential major usage? If gaming, what resolution, type of games and setting/fps do you want to play?

Can you list your current rig specs including monitor and other peripherals?

 

[bendrjackson]

The build will work, but has some flaws.
1. Ram too slow, get 3000+ if you can
2. No need for water cooling with 8400, stock is just fine
3. motherboard is on the low side

Nothing will be future proof, literally nothing. You always build for current need and perhaps considering a little bit future needs. What is your current and potential major usage? If gaming, what resolution, type of games and setting/fps do you want to play?

Can you list your current rig specs including monitor and other peripherals?

To clarify, by future proof I mean't to make it more compatible with whats there these days and to make it easier to upgrade if I need to.
gaming, 1080p, pubg, gta 5 and other such games.

 

[vapour]

Then AM4 has better upgrade path.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($278.00 @ Shopping Express)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($119.00 @ Umart)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($285.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($110.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($80.00 @ PLE Computers)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card ($749.00 @ Shopping Express)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($85.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.00 @ Shopping Express)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($124.00 @ Shopping Express)
Monitor: Asus - VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($354.00 @ Shopping Express)
Total: $2293.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-08 03:09 AEDT+1100

You can cut some cost if you reuse old storage or PSU.

 

[Jwpanz]

If you want a system that will just last awhile in terms of performance then yes the i5 build you have listed will last for quite some time. Most games do not utilize over 4 cores and you’ll have 6 cores. If games begin using all available cores then you’ll be set for a while. Plus you can just upgrade your GPU as you go along until that i5 becomes a bottleneck (which shouldn’t happen anytime soon).

 

[bendrjackson]

Then AM4 has better upgrade path.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($278.00 @ Shopping Express)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($119.00 @ Umart)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($285.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($110.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($80.00 @ PLE Computers)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card ($749.00 @ Shopping Express)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($85.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.00 @ Shopping Express)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($124.00 @ Shopping Express)
Monitor: Asus - VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($354.00 @ Shopping Express)
Total: $2293.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-08 03:09 AEDT+1100

You can cut some cost if you reuse old storage or PSU.

I actually already have both an 144hz monitor and a windows 10 retail pack so I can already cut those costs. Any ideas on what to fill in the $400 gap?

 

[vapour]

If Intel CPU bug fix does not bring down too much performance, get this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($365.00 @ Umart)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($226.00 @ Skycomp Technology)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($285.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($110.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($80.00 @ PLE Computers)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card ($749.00 @ Shopping Express)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($149.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($128.00 @ Shopping Express)
Total: $2141.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-08 14:40 AEDT+1100

 

[jpe1701]

If Intel CPU bug fix does not bring down too much performance, get this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($365.00 @ Umart)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($226.00 @ Skycomp Technology)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($285.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($110.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($80.00 @ PLE Computers)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card ($749.00 @ Shopping Express)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($149.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($128.00 @ Shopping Express)
Total: $2141.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-08 14:40 AEDT+1100

I think you meant the cryorig h7. The c7 is the small low profile one that wouldn't do good with the 8600k.

 

[bendrjackson]

If Intel CPU bug fix does not bring down too much performance, get this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($365.00 @ Umart)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($226.00 @ Skycomp Technology)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($285.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($110.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($80.00 @ PLE Computers)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card ($749.00 @ Shopping Express)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($149.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($128.00 @ Shopping Express)
Total: $2141.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-08 14:40 AEDT+1100

Alright so I rounded up the parts and I found that buying all the parts from umart (although some parts being more expensive than other stores) is actually cheaper because I can just pickup, so no shipping costs. However as I said umart doesn't have everything so I did some modifications. I switched out the Cyrorig C7 with a Thermaltake Frio Silent 14 which is around the same price. I also switched the Phanteeks Enthoo Pro M with a NZXT S340 Elite also around the same price. Good modifications?

 

[vapour]

@ jpe1701

yep, but H7 is OOS, updated with this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($365.00 @ Umart)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($89.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($226.00 @ Skycomp Technology)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($285.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($110.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($80.00 @ PLE Computers)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card ($749.00 @ Shopping Express)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($149.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($128.00 @ Shopping Express)
Total: $2181.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-08 15:44 AEDT+1100

 

[bendrjackson]

@ jpe1701

yep, but H7 is OOS, updated with this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($365.00 @ Umart)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($89.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($226.00 @ Skycomp Technology)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($285.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($110.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($80.00 @ PLE Computers)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card ($749.00 @ Shopping Express)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($149.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($128.00 @ Shopping Express)
Total: $2181.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-08 15:44 AEDT+1100

Alright, surprisingly umart doesn't have the be quiet so in case I decide to go with just umart I will use a noctua S14S or U9S. Overall though I am very happy with what you recommended me with using really good parts while keeping the budget down. Thanks a ton

 

[bendrjackson]

@ jpe1701

yep, but H7 is OOS, updated with this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($365.00 @ Umart)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($89.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($226.00 @ Skycomp Technology)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($285.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($110.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($80.00 @ PLE Computers)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card ($749.00 @ Shopping Express)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($149.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($128.00 @ Shopping Express)
Total: $2181.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-08 15:44 AEDT+1100

Could I also get recommendations for a ryzen based system?

 

[vapour]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($264.00 @ Shopping Express)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.00 @ Shopping Express)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($285.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($110.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($80.00 @ PLE Computers)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card ($768.00 @ Shopping Express)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($149.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($128.00 @ Shopping Express)
Total: $1898.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-17 00:56 AEDT+1100

 

[bendrjackson]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($264.00 @ Shopping Express)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.00 @ Shopping Express)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($285.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($110.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($80.00 @ PLE Computers)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card ($768.00 @ Shopping Express)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($149.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($128.00 @ Shopping Express)
Total: $1898.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-17 00:56 AEDT+1100

What about that $300 gap? That's what I was referring to sorry

 

[vapour]

you can go for 1080 ti instead.