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GPU cooling supplier Auras Technology Co., Ltd. says that the RTX 50 series is ready to "seize the whole market starting in December," signifying that we'll soon have Nvidia's next-generation GPUs.

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[tom2tec]

At the current price levels, not a chance the new 5090 will sell well. GPUs are already unaffordable and most games won't benefit much anyways. People are already avoiding the top cards due to excessively high prices. The executives setting these price levels are incompetent, it looks like they live in an affluent fueled fantasy where value doesn't matter. Sadly, we all know when we are being ripped right off. 🙁

 

[valthuer]

At the current price levels, not a chance the new 5090 will sell well. GPUs are already unaffordable and most games won't benefit much anyways. People are already avoiding the top cards due to excessively high prices. The executives setting these price levels are incompetent, it looks like they live in an affluent fueled fantasy where value doesn't matter. Sadly, we all know when we are being ripped right off. 🙁

They are not incompetent: they just don't care much.

Nvidia, are already making all the money they need from the AI sales, so they have zero incentive to lower the prices.

The lack of competition, doesn't help much either: as far the high-end GPUs are concerned, AMD have essentially thrown in the white towel, and are therefore unlikely to create a card better than 4090 - much less the 5090.

 

[Flayed]

I think they will sell out at launch.

 

[hotaru251]

At the current price levels, not a chance the new 5090 will sell well.

ppl bought em scalped in past for over 2 grand...you doubt human stupid factor.

tbh idc about the HALO tier. I care about entry & middle tier as thats the important to industry as a whole.

 

[Elusive Ruse]

At the current price levels, not a chance the new 5090 will sell well. GPUs are already unaffordable and most games won't benefit much anyways. People are already avoiding the top cards due to excessively high prices. The executives setting these price levels are incompetent, it looks like they live in an affluent fueled fantasy where value doesn't matter. Sadly, we all know when we are being ripped right off. 🙁

The 5090s will fly off the shelves but not because gamers bought it, the overwhelming majority of the purchases will be by small scale businesses and creative individuals.

 

[DougMcC]

ppl bought em scalped in past for over 2 grand...you doubt human stupid factor.

tbh idc about the HALO tier. I care about entry & middle tier as thats the important to industry as a whole.

Was going to say the same .... they sell all they make, and it took ~1.5 years before they had made enough they weren't being scalped. Their marketing/sales almost could not do better except to raise the prices slightly to see if they could cede less to scalpers.

 

[saunupe1911]

Yeah it might be time to buy a few more stock shares as revenue is about to go up!

 

[dipique]

Nvidia, are already making all the money they need from the AI sales, so they have zero incentive to lower the prices.

Agreed. Or, more specifically, profit per wafer is maximized by allocating most wafers to AI server chips. They are probably supply constrained for gaming chips and thus have no reason to reduce pricing.

AMD have essentially thrown in the white towel, and are therefore unlikely to create a card better than 4090 - much less the 5090.

I don't know about that. I think it's very possible the AMD will create a 4090-class chip. The 4090 is about 35% faster than the 7900 XTX, which is about the gain you tend to see from generation to generation.

AMD has decided not to compete with the 5090 (and depending on the 50X0 uplift likely not the 5080 either), but the 5070 equivalent from AMD may well be faster than a 4090. Not saying it's a sure thing, just that it well within the realm of possibility.

 

[TeamRed2024]

ppl bought em scalped in past for over 2 grand...you doubt human stupid factor.

There is NOTHING I do on my PC right that has me saying "I wish I had a 5090." Not a thing. My 9950X and 4090 does everything I need... games in 4K Ultra at max settings... etc... etc...

I honestly could care less about RT and PT but for the record I haven't even had to make any adjustments to those 2 options.

I will definitely get the 5090 at some point... but I won't be paying scalper prices because unlike the 3090 a few years ago the 4090 is a much bigger beast that can handle the current gaming market.

 

[Giroro]

I will definitely get the 5090 at some point... .

What if it costs $3000 and consumers 50% more power for a 10% gaming improvement and slightly more VRAM?

 

[TeamRed2024]

What if it costs $3000 and consumers 50% more power for a 10% gaming improvement and slightly more VRAM?

Then I'd keep the 4090.

It would have to be a 3090 to 4090 level of performance improvement for me to upgrade.

 

[valthuer]

It would have to be a 3090 to 4090 level of performance improvement for me to upgrade.

And with the GDDR7 memory and all, i'm betting it will be.

 

[Jadesphynx]

Nvidia's market dominance is not good for consumers. With amd giving up on the high end prices are just going to get worse. Not to mention Donnie's idiotic tariffs if they come to pass.

 

[spongiemaster]

At the current price levels, not a chance the new 5090 will sell well. GPUs are already unaffordable and most games won't benefit much anyways. People are already avoiding the top cards due to excessively high prices. The executives setting these price levels are incompetent, it looks like they live in an affluent fueled fantasy where value doesn't matter. Sadly, we all know when we are being ripped right off. 🙁

Nvidia doesn't care if gamers buy the card or not. The majority of 90x sales go to business and research markets which aren't as price sensitive since they are literally making money from these cards. If the 5090 has 32GB of RAM as rumored, the AI market will eat them up. It is stunning that anyone can look at Nvidia's meteoric rise to the most valuable company on the planet over the past few years and accuse them of not knowing what they are doing.

 

[TeamRed2024]

And with the GDDR7 memory and all, i'm betting it will be.

Assuming that's true... I still won't be paying scalper prices. I paid MSRP for my 4090 ($1699) and at last look it's selling for more than that now.

My original statement remains the same... there's nothing I'm doing now be it CAD rendering or gaming that has me saying I need a 5090. Nothing. That being said... MSRP or bust.

 

[spongiemaster]

What if it costs $3000 and consumers 50% more power for a 10% gaming improvement and slightly more VRAM?

Why hypothesize something we already know isn't true?

 

[valthuer]

Assuming that's true... I still won't be paying scalper prices. I paid MSRP for my 4090 ($1699) and at last look it's selling for more than that now.

Yeah, what's up with that?

I live in Greece, i bought my 4090 for 1920€ back in June 2023, and now, 1,5 year later, it's almost impossible to buy any version of it for less than 2500€!

Sweet Jesus!!!

I've come to consider myself lucky for picking it up for less than 2000€! 🤣

 

[spongiemaster]

Assuming that's true... I still won't be paying scalper prices. I paid MSRP for my 4090 ($1699) and at last look it's selling for more than that now.

My original statement remains the same... there's nothing I'm doing now be it CAD rendering or gaming that has me saying I need a 5090. Nothing. That being said... MSRP or bust.

Your posts make zero sense. Who spends $2000+ on something they have no need for by their own admission? You shouldn't be buying one regardless of MSRP or not.

 

[TeamRed2024]

Your posts make zero sense. Who spends $2000+ on something they have no need for by their own admission? You shouldn't be buying one regardless of MSRP or not.

Future proofing and resale value.

Will I pay scalper prices? No. Will I pay MSRP ($2000?) and then sell the 4090? Yes. Pretty sure I can get at least 50% ($1000?) of the 5090 MSRP price if I sell the 4090 sooner rather than later.

Sorry for the confusion.

 

[DS426]

Going to be completely blunt.

Hopefully nVidia completely takes over the GPU market. It's you all's fault, because #2 somehow isn't good enough. 1st world problems man, they HURT SO BAD!!

Tech supremacy is live and well today. Congratulations. Thanks goodness you're all so smart with highlighting nVidia's technical victories.

 

[spongiemaster]

Future proofing and resale value.

Will I pay scalper prices? No. Will I pay MSRP ($2000?) and then sell the 4090? Yes. Pretty sure I can get at least 50% ($1000?) of the 5090 MSRP price if I sell the 4090 sooner rather than later.

Sorry for the confusion.

That makes even less sense. Outside of crypto bubbles, GPU's are not investments. You don't buy something you don't need for better resale or future proofing. What you're talking about is FOMO.

 

[TeamRed2024]

That makes even less sense. Outside of crypto bubbles, GPU's are not investments. You don't buy something you don't need for better resale or future proofing. What you're talking about is FOMO.

Now you're making no sense.

1) I never said it was an investment
2) Better resale on the 4090 will be when the 5000 series is new (i.e. now) ... rather than the 6000 series
3) Future proofing means exactly that... when UE5 is more mainstream, I'll have a 5090

If I still don't make sense feel free to ignore me. Cheers.

 

[TeamRed2024]

Tech supremacy is live and well today. Congratulations. Thanks goodness you're all so smart with highlighting nVidia's technical victories.

I've always bought the best... and that's always been Nvidia. Even though I'm a big fan of AMD processors... they've never had a GPU that was better than Nvidia's flagship IMO... which is since 2001 when I first built with a GeForce 3 and Athlon processor.

 

[valthuer]

they've never had a GPU that was better than Nvidia's flagship IMO... which is since 2001 when I first built with a GeForce 3 and Athlon processor.

Well, they had once: back in 2003, with Radeon 9800 Pro.

That's only 21 years of Nvidia supremacy.

No big deal 🤣