GPU TDP Problem

[nukemaster]

When the lag happens, Does your hard drive go nuts(LED get light up)?

Wonder if something is loading and the hard drive is holding back.

It is not a green or low power drive right.

 

[dmd4ever]

When the lag happens, Does your hard drive go nuts(LED get light up)?

Wonder if something is loading and the hard drive is holding back.

It is not a green or low power drive right.

no, it's Seagate barracuda 1TB. pretty good drive.
i did HD tune read benchmark and as far as i can tell it's working fine.

by the way, if it's a HDD issue, why would the CPU + GPU usage go down?

 

[jonjonjon]

yeah, that's what they told me. the lag can happen even when im just 10 seconds in to the game and the CPU doesn't even hit 90%.
i have just tested my hdd (long shot) but i don't believe the hdd could be the cause.
thanks for the help!, you were probably the last hope ):

they do make good psu's but that doesn't mean they never have faulty psu's. there is also the possibly that the video card could be bad. do you or a friend have another computer that you could try the video card out.

 

[dmd4ever]

they do make good psu's but that doesn't mean they never have faulty psu's. there is also the possibly that the video card could be bad. do you or a friend have another computer that you could try the video card out.

yeah but their overall system will be a bottleneck for testing. but i don't understand, i already tested my card with Xtreme Furmark test for 15 minutes with no drops whatsoever, shouldn't that be enough to say my card is stable?

 

[jonjonjon]

then whats the problem then?

 

[dmd4ever]

then whats the problem then?

i wrote the problem on both threads. im getting FPS drops in most games for a sec like freezes every couple of minutes. if you look at the graph above you will see the problem - GPU and CPU usage goes to 0 for a split second with no reason! (with IBT + PRIME95 + Furmark everything is fine)

 

[jonjonjon]

you need to try narrowing it down. did you build this yourself or buy it already built?

if you are really desperate reinstall windows.

 

[dmd4ever]

you need to try narrowing it down. did you build this yourself or buy it already built?

i decided on the parts but the company who sold it to me assembled the build

 

[jonjonjon]

try downloading process monitor and see if another process is causing it to freeze. do you know anyone else who has a psu you can borrow to test? so you can rule that out. run memtest86 to test your memory. try reinstall windows. just some suggestions.

 

[dmd4ever]

try downloading process monitor and see if another process is causing it to freeze. do you know anyone else who has a psu you can borrow to test? so you can rule that out. run memtest86 to test your memory. try reinstall windows. just some suggestions.

thanks for helping. you see, my wiring and case is arranged in a certain way and for me to take out the psu and replace it i will need to be sure or at least somewhat positive that's the problem. like i said, i ran massively demanding tests simultaneously and no drops or anything. furthermore, the problem happens on minimum quality settings that even my GPU is on 45% usage and i still get the problem.
im not trying to dismiss you, im just trying to understand how can it be the PSU if all of the above tests were fine and the problem exists even on lowest settings?

already ran memtest and killed all unrelated processes

 

[jonjonjon]

has it ever worked? do you have this problem on every game or just a few?

 

[dmd4ever]

has it ever worked? do you have this problem on every game or just a few?

actually i didn't pay it any attention because i waited for the patches for FC3 but they didn't do anything.
it's also happening in The Walking dead which is very low graphics and no open spaces (mots of the game is cutscenes).
in Battlefield 3 on Ultra settings it's rarely happening. (only on checkpoints).

these are all i have installed at the moment. Batman:Arkham city also had lags but that could be attributed to poor optimization cause a lot of people had problems with that

 

[nukemaster]

The reason I had mentioned the hard drive(The barracuda line actually includes many drives including a green and LP version, I use 2 LP drives for file storage, but would not want to game off them ), was that if your game has to load stuff or make a check point, it may pause while waiting on the hard drive. any pause in a game will actually drop the load on a game.

This is a very generic problem with many things that CAN cause it, but many seem to not be the issue.

Your cpu load drop sort of rules out a background app taking cpu power, but does not rule out a poor driver or software taking interrupt time or countless other software/hardware issues that can happen on a system.

 

[jonjonjon]

seems like other people are having problem with the walking dead freezing. since battlefield and furmark have no issues it seems like it could just be a problem with the games. im out of ideas. if you don't want to try reinstalling windows or swapping out hardware im not sure what else you could do.

http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29719
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/622432-the-walking-dead-episode-1-a-new-day/62649560

 

[dmd4ever]

seems like other people are having problem with the walking dead freezing. since battlefield and furmark have no issues it seems like it could just be a problem with the games. im out of ideas. if you don't want to try reinstalling windows or swapping out hardware im not sure what else you could do.

http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29719
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/622432-the-walking-dead-episode-1-a-new-day/62649560

i can also find people with FPS drops on FC3, you can find everything on google but it's weird that the problem is on several games not just one.
if all else fails ill have to reinstall windows but that's a bummer too cause we wouldn't know the actual cause (if reinstalling will actually solve it which im very doubted)

 

[nukemaster]

I would see what other games you have, try all kinds of things like games and other benchmarks and see if they do the same thing. Maybe it is just a poorly codes game.

Only other thing I would say try would be to mess with the Nvidia control panel settings.
Try to see if Adaptive Vertical sync helps any?
try to turn Thread optimization OFF?
Maybe try with Triple Buffering?(this uses more memory and fixes frame rate issues, but not the same type).

Not like I have not seen games do strange things City Of Villains(and New City Of Heroes maps) had all kinds of freezing when loading textures on the fly.

 

[dmd4ever]

I would see what other games you have, try all kinds of things like games and other benchmarks and see if they do the same thing. Maybe it is just a poorly codes game.

Only other thing I would say try would be to mess with the Nvidia control panel settings.
Try to see if Adaptive Vertical sync helps any?
try to turn Thread optimization OFF?
Maybe try with Triple Buffering?(this uses more memory and fixes frame rate issues, but not the same type).

Not like I have not seen games do strange things City Of Villains(and New City Of Heroes maps) had all kinds of freezing when loading textures on the fly.

yeah ive tries all the v-sync\triple buffering options, even went without v-sync and with frame limiter. i just checked the log from the walking dead and it's very strange and worse than any other game. the GPU is on 27% usage and the CPU is lower
but still i get every minute a drop to 0 (not just one line). it feels like it's random there are no explosions or big scenes.

by the way, i get 6882 on my grpahics score in 3dmark which is normal for my card

 

[nukemaster]

What version of 3dmarks?

Also what did you use to record your stats? I use GPU-Z but it does not record nearly as much as what you used.

 

[dmd4ever]

What version of 3dmarks?

Also what did you use to record your stats? I use GPU-Z but it does not record nearly as much as what you used.

3dmark 11, Performance settings. for stats i use HWINFO64

 

[nukemaster]

You seem to be in the right area. Did it do the pause thing on the benchmark?

 

[dmd4ever]

You seem to be in the right area. Did it do the pause thing on the benchmark?

haven't checked cause i got the best possible score for my card at stock speeds but ill check now
but i think the GPU CPU load supposed to go down to 0 in 3dmark between tests (loading screens)?

 

[nukemaster]

Yes and in the CPU test the cpu will do ALL the work.

I was more interested if you see and pauses while watching it.

 

[dmd4ever]

Yes and in the CPU test the cpu will do ALL the work.

I was more interested if you see and pauses while watching it.

i didn't notice any drops, but then again every test is like 40 seconds so ill never know maybe ill run the demo it's quite long i think

 

[dmd4ever]

just ran the demo, no skipping/drops at all.
it can't be poor coding on the games because all my friends are playing them without any skips. weird

 

[nukemaster]

they have similar hardware to you?