Question GPUs don't want to run at 100%, and other performance problems ?

[LordVile]

I've tried all my drives, including my Nvme, I have tested my ram fully through memtest86+. And I've tried using without and with PBO.

you’re literally not answering the questions

 

[FastbackNL]

I have the same CPU what games are you experiencing low fps in?

Almost every game I play:
RDR2, Warthunder, Astroneer, Squad, Hell Let Loose, even fkn Lego star wars.

 

[FastbackNL]

you’re literally not answering the questions

I didn't really get what you was trying to say, but english also isn't my first language. But no I don't think so that it has anything to do with settings, I have changed about every setting there is regarding to this problem. In settings, Control panel, Msi afterburner, AMD software, Bios, Games.

 

[Flayed]

Almost every game I play:
RDR2, Warthunder, Astroneer, Squad, Hell Let Loose, even fkn Lego star wars.

I have RDR2 although I never really played much about an hour it seemed to run fine on my system. I just ran the built in benchmark which averaged 71fps @1440p. Looks like it is GPU bound on my 3070

 

[FastbackNL]

I have RDR2 although I never really played much about an hour it seemed to run fine on my system. I just ran the built in benchmark which averaged 71fps @1440p. Looks like it is GPU bound on my 3070

I get more somewhere around 40-50fps@1080p. That couldn't really be normal. And both components are not even running near full load.

 

[Flayed]

I get more somewhere around 40-50fps@1080p. That couldn't really be normal. And both components are not even running near full load.

It depends on the graphical settings of course. There are a ton of them for RDR2 I bet if you turned everything up to max it would run like a slideshow on your 4060.

 

[FastbackNL]

It depends on the graphical settings of course. There are a ton of them for RDR2 I bet if you turned everything up to max it would run like a slideshow on your 4060.

No it's not that bad, and that's the thing. If I change it from dookie graphics all the way up to max, is almost about the same fps. The power delivery in my system just doesn't seem to be working correctly.

 

[LordVile]

I didn't really get what you was trying to say, but english also isn't my first language. But no I don't think so that it has anything to do with settings, I have changed about every setting there is regarding to this problem. In settings, Control panel, Msi afterburner, AMD software, Bios, Games.

What about windows?

 

[JayGau]

I get more somewhere around 40-50fps@1080p. That couldn't really be normal. And both components are not even running near full load.

Your CPU will never run at full load while gaming (even if you are CPU bottleneck) for the simple reason that games are not optimized to use all the cores. It's why modern CPUs are rarely running at more than 30-50% in games (depending on the number of cores).

You could get PresentMon from the Intel website (it's a free monitoring software that can be used with any GPU and CPU) and ask it to display the CPU and GPU busy time. If the CPU value is constantly and significantly higher than the GPU (while gaming) you are CPU bottleneck.

Intel® Arc™ Graphics – PresentMon – Intel Gaming Access

game.intel.com

Also, I sincerely hope you are not installing your games on your HDD drive.

 

[FastbackNL]

What about windows?

Yes, also played around with graphics settings, energy plans, hardware-accelerated gpu planning.

 

[FastbackNL]

Your CPU will never run at full load while gaming (even if you are CPU bottleneck) for the simple reason that games are not optimized to use all the cores. It's why modern CPUs are rarely running at more than 30-50% in games (depending on the number of cores).

You could get PresentMon from the Intel website (it's a free monitoring software that can be used with any GPU and CPU) and ask it to display the CPU and GPU busy time. If the CPU value is constantly and significantly higher than the GPU (while gaming) you are CPU bottleneck.

Intel® Arc™ Graphics – PresentMon – Intel Gaming Access

game.intel.com

Also, I sincerely hope you are not installing your games on your HDD drive.

I will try that. And no I am not using my HDD for games, only for backup and files.

 

[drivinfast247]

I will try that. And no I am not using my HDD for games, only for backup and files.

Restart PC and then go to https://www.userbenchmark.com/
and run the test. It'll show us how your PC is performing.

 

[JayGau]

No it's not that bad, and that's the thing. If I change it from dookie graphics all the way up to max, is almost about the same fps. The power delivery in my system just doesn't seem to be working correctly.

A faulty power delivery would not just make your games running at a lower frame rate, you would most likely get other issues like artefacts, crashes, black screens, etc. If everything runs fine but just at lower fps, it's because something is slowing your PC down, and like everyone else says, it really looks like it's your CPU. You also said you moved your card to the lower PCIe slot to test for the coil whine. I hope you moved it back to the top one otherwise you only get half the bandwidth for your GPU.

 

[Flayed]

I'm not so sure about the CPU. I know an R5 3600 isn't fast, but it only has to drive a 4060, so it shouldn't be much of an issue to push 60 to 80 fps, which is all you can reasonably expect from such a graphics card.

 

[Flayed]

The power delivery in my system just doesn't seem to be working correctly.

You have already replaced the PSU, so what power delivery are you talking about?

 

[FastbackNL]

You have already replaced the PSU, so what power delivery are you talking about?

The delivery of power to my cpu and gpu, they just don't want to go to 100%.

 

[FastbackNL]

A faulty power delivery would not just make your games running at a lower frame rate, you would most likely get other issues like artefacts, crashes, black screens, etc. If everything runs fine but just at lower fps, it's because something is slowing your PC down, and like everyone else says, it really looks like it's your CPU. You also said you moved your card to the lower PCIe slot to test for the coil whine. I hope you moved it back to the top one otherwise you only get half the bandwidth for your GPU.

Yes I placed it back.

 

[FastbackNL]

Restart PC and then go to https://www.userbenchmark.com/
and run the test. It'll show us how your PC is performing.

I've already run that, and like I said, in benchmarks it doesn't seem to peform so bad, only when gaming it feels like.
Here are the results:
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/69406993

 

[Flayed]

The delivery of power to my cpu and gpu, they just don't want to go to 100%.

Ok can you post a screenshot of HWiNFO64 after gaming it will show how much power your CPU and GPU are using

 

[FastbackNL]

Your CPU will never run at full load while gaming (even if you are CPU bottleneck) for the simple reason that games are not optimized to use all the cores. It's why modern CPUs are rarely running at more than 30-50% in games (depending on the number of cores).

You could get PresentMon from the Intel website (it's a free monitoring software that can be used with any GPU and CPU) and ask it to display the CPU and GPU busy time. If the CPU value is constantly and significantly higher than the GPU (while gaming) you are CPU bottleneck.

Intel® Arc™ Graphics – PresentMon – Intel Gaming Access

game.intel.com

Also, I sincerely hope you are not installing your games on your HDD drive.

Thank you very much for the reponse and here are the results, doesn't really seem like a bottleneck if I compare to other people from videos/online. I've ran this with bad fps during RDR2. And don't have any frame limiters or something on:
https://ibb.co/KzygQ07

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https://ibb.co/4dRqr6G

 

[FastbackNL]

Ok can you post a screenshot of HWiNFO64 after gaming it will show how much power your CPU and GPU are using

Please see my new reply. You can see the usage in task manager, but if you need me to, I can also run HWinfo64

 

[drivinfast247]

I've already run that, and like I said, in benchmarks it doesn't seem to peform so bad, only when gaming it feels like.
Here are the results:
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/69406993

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[Flayed]

Please see my new reply. You can see the usage in task manager, but if you need me to, I can also run HWinfo64

I thought you were talking about power rather than usage. It is odd that task manager doesn't show 100% usage (or near enough) for your GPU

 

[JayGau]

Your PresentMon result don't show anything really striking and busy times are really close indeed. But you say that it's fine when running benchmarks? When you run Heaven how is your GPU usage? If it reaches 98-99% then you can rule out your GPU power delivery hypothesis. And make sure your card is back to the top PCIe slot.

 

[RTX 2080]

AMD CPUs for a long time were infamous for not providing competitive gaming performance compared to Intel CPUs. They were well-priced and good at productivity, but gaming performance was lacking. This changed with the Ryzen 5000 series of CPUs.

The Ryzen 3600 has been the subject of countless “Is my CPU bottlenecking me?” threads on these forums. Time and time again it has been shown that individuals were CPU limited and benefited significantly from a CPU upgrade.

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