Question GPUs don't want to run at 100%, and other performance problems ?

[FastbackNL]

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This is an old test, sorry but I forgot to mention that. I had it running on like 3000 MT/s or something. Now I have XMP on with 3600 MT/s.

I thought you were talking about power rather than usage. It is odd that task manager doesn't show 100% usage (or near enough) for your GPU

That's exactly what I find very weird, sometimes it's even 60% even though my fps is horrible. Like work harder or smth hahaha

Your PresentMon result don't show anything really striking and busy times are really close indeed. But you say that it's fine when running benchmarks? When you run Heaven how is your GPU usage? If it reaches 98-99% then you can rule out your GPU power delivery hypothesis. And make sure your card is back to the top PCIe slot.

It's back to the top slot, it doesn't run very well, a little but unstable and not fully 100%, but still way better then games. And then I also don't really hear the coil whine. And how louder the coil whine, how worse the performance is.

AMD CPUs for a long time were infamous for not providing competitive gaming performance compared to Intel CPUs. They were well-priced and good at productivity, but gaming performance was lacking. This changed with the Ryzen 5000 series of CPUs.

The Ryzen 3600 has been the subject of countless “Is my CPU bottlenecking me?” threads on these forums. Time and time again it has been shown that individuals were CPU limited and benefited significantly from a CPU upgrade.

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I know it's not the best CPU out there, wasn't back then and definetly isn't now. But the performance I am getting is more relating to the GPU, but switching out the gpu doesn't do anything for me. That's why I am sending back my RTX 4060 and staying with my 2070 super, I would've thought that would be the problem and that isn't the case unfortunatly.

 

[RTX 2080]

This is an old test, sorry but I forgot to mention that. I had it running on like 3000 MT/s or something. Now I have XMP on with 3600 MT/s.

That's exactly what I find very weird, sometimes it's even 60% even though my fps is horrible. Like work harder or smth hahaha

It's back to the top slot, it doesn't run very well, a little but unstable and not fully 100%, but still way better then games. And then I also don't really hear the coil whine. And how louder the coil whine, how worse the performance is.

I know it's not the best CPU out there, wasn't back then and definetly isn't now. But the performance I am getting is more relating to the GPU, but switching out the gpu doesn't do anything for me. That's why I am sending back my RTX 4060 and staying with my 2070 super, I would've thought that would be the problem and that isn't the case unfortunatly.

The 4060 and 2070 super have similar performance under normal circumstances. Why are you surprised that swapping from one to the other isn’t improving performance?

I will say it again: YOU. ARE. CPU. LIMITED.

 

[beyondlogic]

I think his point is the 5700 has half the cache of the 5700x which impacts gaming performance.

video explains it clearly l3 cache matters there crippled by 16mb its also limited to pci 3.0 which makes it a poor upgrade especially if you switch out the board down the road for a b550 to get better use out of it for nvme storage.

 

[beyondlogic]

Please see my new reply. You can see the usage in task manager, but if you need me to, I can also run HWinfo64

card shouldnt be in the lower slot, always in top slot and download gpu z.

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GPU-Z is a lightweight system utility designed to provide vital information about your video card and graphics processor.

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check the card is running x8 in the slot for the 4060 to make sure the card isnt being bandwidth starved.

 

[Flayed]

The 4060 and 2070 super have similar performance under normal circumstances. Why are you surprised that swapping from one to the other isn’t improving performance?

I will say it again: YOU. ARE. CPU. LIMITED.

No need to shout. I don't believe this is the case. To prove my point here is a benchmark of a 3600 paired with an RX 6800 from Techspot:



Here is a link to the full article:

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 + Radeon RX 6800: Tested at 1080p, 1440p and 4K

The Radeon RX 6800 is bound to be a popular GPU choice and with so many of you using the still amazing Ryzen 5 3600, it makes...

www.techspot.com

 

[FastbackNL]

card shouldnt be in the lower slot, always in top slot and download gpu z.

TechPowerUp

GPU-Z is a lightweight system utility designed to provide vital information about your video card and graphics processor.

www.techpowerup.com

check the card is running x8 in the slot for the 4060 to make sure the card isnt being bandwidth starved.

I think I already said it 2 times, I only tested if the coil whine went with switching between the slots, but I put it back in the upper slot, the reinforced one.

 

[FastbackNL]

No need to shout. I don't believe this is the case. To prove my point here is a benchmark of a 3600 paired with an RX 6800 from Techspot:



Here is a link to the full article:

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 + Radeon RX 6800: Tested at 1080p, 1440p and 4K

The Radeon RX 6800 is bound to be a popular GPU choice and with so many of you using the still amazing Ryzen 5 3600, it makes...

www.techspot.com

Exactly, that's what I am saying. CPU userbenchmark also did a lot of test and it always shows, even when they use a worse graphics card then I have, that I have worse fps then them.

 

[Flayed]

Exactly, that's what I am saying. CPU userbenchmark also did a lot of test and it always shows, even when they use a worse graphics card then I have, that I have worse fps then them.

Just to confirm, have you updated the motherboard bios to the latest version?

 

[FastbackNL]

Just to confirm, have you updated the motherboard bios to the latest version?

Not the latest, one from late 2023. Heard some of the new ones had problems, so don't want that to go with it hahah. But if you trust it then I could also try that as well.

 

[Flayed]

Not the latest, one from late 2023. Heard some of the new ones had problems, so don't want that to go with it hahah. But if you trust it then I could also try that as well.

I would do it as I think this is the sort of thing that an updated bios may solve. Plus I saw a Reddit post of someone else with a similar problem who posted it was fixed after updating the bios.

 

[FastbackNL]

I would do it as I think this is the sort of thing that an updated bios may solve. Plus I saw a Reddit post of someone else with a similar problem who posted it was fixed after updating the bios.

Then I'll give it a shot, thanks for the response.