graphic card for Pentium g2030 for hardcore gaming

[sahityaraju]

my friend built a new pc...
he wants to play
Crysis 3
battlefield 4
watchdogs

his specs
-pentium g2030
-ddr3 ram (4gb)
-18.5" dell 1366 x 768

he is looking to buy hd7770 or gtx650....

can he play above games????
if possible at what highest settings???

 

[RobCrezz]

You can also see here in Tomshardware own recommendations:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,review-32901-3.html

Conversely, benchmark data makes it clear that the company's Hyper-Threading technology is effective in helping improve the performance of Core i3 CPUs in those same blockbusters.

 

[sahityaraju]

i3 is my first preference because of hyperthreading....benchmarks proves it.....

 

[RobCrezz]

i3 is my first preference because of hyperthreading....benchmarks proves it.....

Yup for sure, but only worth it if you can get a good graphics card, or you will be graphics card bottleneck anyway....

 

[sahityaraju]

suggest me ....
and i will also look for i5

 

[xtreme5]

@RobCrezz,
You're picking a descriptions of I3 haha show me where is tomshardware recommending HT?
You also picked a cpu for a money hahah thats funny 😀.

Now let me tell you Games majorly requires 2 or 4 cores least requires thread, you said HT helps in game I agree but for a shortest time. In those benchmarking the guys using core i7 with HT on off, a very little fps increase due to frequency of i7 not hyperthreading. See here
http://www.overclock.net/t/671977/hyperthreading-in-games

Final answer HT neither helps nor hurt when Gaming.

Another thread see here
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/354727-28-does-hyperthreading-gaming

So even if you keep HT on with I3 cpu it might effect gameplay. Fps Down

 

[xtreme5]

Here are some examples of HT on vs off in multi-threaded stuff.

http://media.bestofmicro.com/M/1/222409/original/MainConcept-HT-On-Off.png

http://capacitas.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/image3.png

http://media.bestofmicro.com/H/N/241691/original/cinebench_multi.png

 

[RobCrezz]

@RobCrezz,
You're picking a descriptions of I3 haha show me where is tomshardware recommending HT?
You also picked a cpu for a money hahah thats funny 😀.

Now let me tell you Games majorly requires 2 or 4 cores least requires thread, you said HT helps in game I agree but for a shortest time. In those benchmarking the guys using core i7 with HT on off, a very little fps increase due to frequency of i7 not hyperthreading. See here
http://www.overclock.net/t/671977/hyperthreading-in-games

Final answer HT neither helps nor hurt when Gaming.

Another thread see here
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/354727-28-does-hyperthreading-gaming

So even if you keep HT on with I3 cpu it might effect gameplay. Fps Down

Here are some examples of HT on vs off in multi-threaded stuff.

http://media.bestofmicro.com/M/1/222409/original/MainConcept-HT-On-Off.png

http://capacitas.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/image3.png

http://media.bestofmicro.com/H/N/241691/original/cinebench_multi.png

Sorry, you are wrong. In the case of the i3, as many games can utilize 4 threads, HT does help performance, its been proven time and time again.

Did you not read the link for best CPUs for the money, where Toms says HT on the i3 helps performance in games.

 

[xtreme5]

Agree but only 3 or 4 fps increase but depends on (min, avg, max) it may effect performance in minimum fps, while increase avg same with max.
Show me I3 HT with a big boast in performance?

 

[sahityaraju]

whats the difference in various i3's????is it only igp's or anything else.....best balanced i3-cost performance ratio????

 

[RobCrezz]

Agree but only 3 or 4 fps increase but depends on (min, avg, max) it may effect performance in minimum fps, while increase avg same with max.
Show me I3 HT with a big boast in performance?

COD: Black ops
http://www.computerbase.de/2011-04/test-intel-core-i3-2100-2120/35/

Min framerate is boosted by 18fps by turning HT on

Avg Framerate boosted by 14fps with HT on

 

[xtreme5]

LAWLzzz, Only 1 game hahah okay its fine.
Still doesn't worth but from my side I would pick 3rd gen of I3. Thats it

 

[RobCrezz]

whats the difference in various i3's????is it only igp's or anything else.....best balanced i3-cost performance ratio????

LAWLzzz, Only 1 game hahah okay its fine.
Still doesn't worth but from my side I would pick 3rd gen of I3. Thats it

No, its literally every game that uses 4 threads, use your brain...

Why do you think the i3 performs better in games? Its mainly HT that separates it from the Pentiums! Think about it....

 

[sahityaraju]

HT may or may not being useful but there is no other processor that can perform better at this price range (fx-6300 i cant get that in my town) so as you said i will go for I3 3Rd gen.....

 

[xtreme5]

@RobCrezz, You know I'm a big Fan of intel and I knew everything about it, I like both processors pentium or Corei family both are great chips, you said why do you think I3 performs better its not about HT at all, all it does that is about core efficiency and greater frequency HT won't boast in games.

 

[sahityaraju]

hmm.....hey guys i want to know why should i buy 1Gb hd7770 instead of gtx650 2gb....both are ddr5 but why 7770 is powerful than 2gb gtx650

 

[xtreme5]

Because of higher clock frequency.

 

[sahityaraju]

no look

hd 7770 - www.flipkart.com/sapphire-amd-ati-hd-7770-1-gb-gddr5-graphics-card/p/itmd7tgzhnsn39yr

gtx 650 - www.flipkart.com/zotac-nvidia-geforce-gtx650-2gb-graphics-card/p/itmddmmgcs3f5qdb

gtx 650 clocked at 1071 mhz while 7770 at 950....now im highly confused

 

[xtreme5]

HD 7770 has 640 stream processors while GTX 650 got only 384 stream processors.

 

[sahityaraju]

ok got it.....but on a 768p screen is it worthy to buy a high end card???
720p gaming will be enough i guess due to our eyes limitation....what do you say???

 

[xtreme5]

Yes, It is enough since its not an high-end card but will fillfull your needs. At @720p you'll be getting decent frame rates in all most every game.

 

[sahityaraju]

yeah the thing is i will buy hd 7770 but for 720p gaming r7 250 isnt enough????

 

[xtreme5]

Nah, Basically R7 250 is slower then HD 7770, if you love gaming @720p resolution then I would still suggest HD 7770 its being a great card for gaming.

 

[sahityaraju]

is 768p monitor enough for gaming or change to 1080p...i believe there will be no difference because of eye limitations.....what monitor you are using???

 

[RobCrezz]

@RobCrezz, You know I'm a big Fan of intel and I knew everything about it, I like both processors pentium or Corei family both are great chips, you said why do you think I3 performs better its not about HT at all, all it does that is about core efficiency and greater frequency HT won't boast in games.

The I3 and the Pentium have the same cores, i3 have the HT enabled....

 

[xtreme5]

What do you mean by Eye Limitations?
Of course there is big difference between 768p vs 1080p, depending on a graphics card.

Yes, 768p is more than enough.
I'm using this one Full HD 1080p.
http://www.dell.com/ed/business/p/dell-s2240l/pd