GTX 1070 - do I finish my build or wait?

[marhult]

Hi there,

I had almost ordered all my parts for my first PC build but then the 1070 was revealed.

I currently have my CPU and GPU left to be ordered, however, I am unsure whether to order those or wait for the 1070 and it's reviews to come out (which could potentially be another 1-2 months).

Also, if I do buy a 1070 does that mean I will need to buy a different CPU (parts list below)?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£188.33 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI H170 Gaming M3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£90.77 @ More Computers)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Elite 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£64.72 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£69.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£40.96 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card (£266.28 @ Aria PC)
Case: NZXT H440 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case (£92.70 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£74.99 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) (£71.81 @ More Computers)
Total: £960.54

 

[Starcruiser]

Your CPU shouldn't have any bearing on your GPU you can get in this case.
The 1070 is supposed to be released globally on June 10, and will be quite faster than the 970. How much is yet to be determined. I've seen a lot of builds put on hold for the new specs, feel free to do the same if you can wait.

 

[pete_101]

You can always build your system now, less a new graphics card, and use an old card or the integrated graphics until the 1070 is reviewed. Your cpu will be fine no matter which graphics card you get.

 

[abbadon_34]

I'm generally say don't wait, but given what were know of the 1080/1070, and the time period, I would wait.

In fact I just received a brand new 970 from RMA (not refurbished) and I'm planning on selling it to finance a 1070 while it is NIB

 

[marhult]

Thanks, for the help guys

Your CPU shouldn't have any bearing on your GPU you can get in this case.
The 1070 is supposed to be released globally on June 10, and will be quite faster than the 970. How much is yet to be determined. I've seen a lot of builds put on hold for the new specs, feel free to do the same if you can wait.

Well I had decided to wait so I guess I'll just continue to wait

You can always build your system now, less a new graphics card, and use an old card or the integrated graphics until the 1070 is reviewed. Your cpu will be fine no matter which graphics card you get.

I hadn't thought of that! I'll order the 6600 then and wait for the 1070 and it's reviews

 

[marhult]

I'm generally say don't wait, but given what were know of the 1080/1070, and the time period, I would wait.

In fact I just received a brand new 970 from RMA (not refurbished) and I'm planning on selling it to finance a 1070 while it is NIB

Well, normally I wait for these sort of things but considering my current PC is as powerful as a potato I reckon I'll just build the new one and wait for the 1070, 1080 is to much for me 🙁 :lol:

 

[ohyes247]

Thanks, for the help guys

Your CPU shouldn't have any bearing on your GPU you can get in this case.
The 1070 is supposed to be released globally on June 10, and will be quite faster than the 970. How much is yet to be determined. I've seen a lot of builds put on hold for the new specs, feel free to do the same if you can wait.

Well I had decided to wait so I guess I'll just continue to wait

You can always build your system now, less a new graphics card, and use an old card or the integrated graphics until the 1070 is reviewed. Your cpu will be fine no matter which graphics card you get.

I hadn't thought of that! I'll order the 6600 then and wait for the 1070 and it's reviews

just have a 970 shipped in through amazon or something and return it before 30 days or when the 1070 is released.. I believe they allow free returns or something on gpu's within that time limit, if not, you can just select the option saying its defective and i believe you dont have to pay return shipping then and you get your money back as well. p.s. I prefer the r9 390 over the gtx 970, I have owned both and 2 different models of each, the asus strix 390 and msi gaming 390. Then the Gigabyte windforce 970 and currently the EVGA ACX 2.0 970. Both 390s outperformed both 970s. and i wouldnt be surprised if they held their own longer than the 970's do as well. As for drivers. AMD drivers worked just fine. and have actually been more successful than Nvidia drivers in recent times.

 

[rhysiam]

Just something to bear in mind, it looks like the overpriced "Founders editions" will be the first ones out of the gate. Nvidia still hasn't made any commitments (to my knowledge at least) on the release date for partner cards, with their significantly lower MSRPs. So the wait might be a little while, unless you're willing to pay a bit extra to get it early.

I'm not saying it's not worth waiting, it may will still be, but just need to bear that in mind.

 

[marhult]

Thanks, for the help guys

Your CPU shouldn't have any bearing on your GPU you can get in this case.
The 1070 is supposed to be released globally on June 10, and will be quite faster than the 970. How much is yet to be determined. I've seen a lot of builds put on hold for the new specs, feel free to do the same if you can wait.

Well I had decided to wait so I guess I'll just continue to wait

You can always build your system now, less a new graphics card, and use an old card or the integrated graphics until the 1070 is reviewed. Your cpu will be fine no matter which graphics card you get.

I hadn't thought of that! I'll order the 6600 then and wait for the 1070 and it's reviews

just have a 970 shipped in through amazon or something and return it before 30 days or when the 1070 is released.. I believe they allow free returns or something on gpu's within that time limit, if not, you can just select the option saying its defective and i believe you dont have to pay return shipping then and you get your money back as well. p.s. I prefer the r9 390 over the gtx 970, I have owned both and 2 different models of each, the asus strix 390 and msi gaming 390. Then the Gigabyte windforce 970 and currently the EVGA ACX 2.0 970. Both 390s outperformed both 970s. and i wouldnt be surprised if they held their own longer than the 970's do as well. As for drivers. AMD drivers worked just fine. and have actually been more successful than Nvidia drivers in recent times.

Good shout, but does sound like fraud.

I have done a lot of research of them both but they both are more or less the same. I decided the 970 as I have 760 and the software is pretty sweet!

 

[marhult]

Just something to bear in mind, it looks like the overpriced "Founders editions" will be the first ones out of the gate. Nvidia still hasn't made any commitments (to my knowledge at least) on the release date for partner cards, with their significantly lower MSRPs. So the wait might be a little while, unless you're willing to pay a bit extra to get it early.

I'm not saying it's not worth waiting, it may will still be, but just need to bear that in mind.

So will the normal 1070 not be released on the 10th of June (I think that was the announced date)? even if it, they'll sell out pretty quick I should imagine.

 

[ohyes247]

More a loop hole than fraud. lol

 

[rhysiam]

So will the normal 1070 not be released on the 10th of June (I think that was the announced date)? even if it, they'll sell out pretty quick I should imagine.

I've been following the lanch pretty closely and I fairly confident that Nvidia haven't confirmed anything beyond the "founders edition" launch date. If I've missed something I'd welcome a link! But the only reason I can see for jacking up the price on the reference cards is so Nvidia can milk early adopters. So, I'm expecting a decent wait before we see partner cards, or as you say, at least a wait until they're readily available in stock.

That's all speculation on my part, I might be completely wrong. But if Nvidia are intending to release partner cards quickly and in good supply, the market for Nvidia's own "founders edition" card, which will undoubtedly be louder, hotter, slower and more expensive than partner cards, would be tiny. You'd only buy one if you absolutely had to have a blower style cooler. That's why I can't see partner cards arriving until a decent period after launch.

 

[rhysiam]

More a loop hole than fraud. lol

I'm no lawyer, but deliberately and knowingly providing false information to a company for your own personal gain sounds an awful lot like fraud to me.

 

[marhult]

So will the normal 1070 not be released on the 10th of June (I think that was the announced date)? even if it, they'll sell out pretty quick I should imagine.

I've been following the lanch pretty closely and I fairly confident that Nvidia haven't confirmed anything beyond the "founders edition" launch date. If I've missed something I'd welcome a link! But the only reason I can see for jacking up the price on the reference cards is so Nvidia can milk early adopters. So, I'm expecting a decent wait before we see partner cards, or as you say, at least a wait until they're readily available in stock.

That's all speculation on my part, I might be completely wrong. But if Nvidia are intending to release partner cards quickly and in good supply, the market for Nvidia's own "founders edition" card, which will undoubtedly be louder, hotter, slower and more expensive than partner cards, would be tiny. You'd only buy one if you absolutely had to have a blower style cooler. That's why I can't see partner cards arriving until a decent period after launch.

Nah, you're not wrong. I'm not particularly interested in the founders edition anyway, plus I'd prefer to hear reviews of it first. I think I'll stick to the 970 for now, might sell it later on down the line once the normal 1070s are released.

 

[cothoffee]

That's why I can't see partner cards arriving until a decent period after launch.

How long do you think a "decent period" is? I'm in the same position and seriously questioning the limits of my patience.

 

[rhysiam]

How long do you think a "decent period" is? I'm in the same position and seriously questioning the limits of my patience.

That is a very good question. I can guess, but you need to realise it's a total guess. I have no inside info here.

Rumours are that early AMD cards will be mainstream, so lower performance and lower price points, which is great news if you're in the market for a $200 card, but also means there will be no real competition for Nvidia at the 1070 performance levels for quite some time. With no competition from AMD, Nvidia will probably keep supply limited to the Founders Editions until sales drop. That could easily be 6 or 8 weeks after launch, maybe even more.

Again... just guesses here. Others will certainly have different perspectives.