News GTX 1630 on Par With GTX 1050 Ti, Benchmarks Show

[King_V]

The RTX3050 would be decent value at $200, especially when you keep in mind that the RX6600 is ~50% faster and can sometimes be had for under $300.

Definitely.

Given that just recently, an RX6600 model was available at $259.99 after $15 mail-in rebate (though as of today, it's $274.99 after $25 MIR), there's even more reason for the RTX 3050 price to have to go down further.

Which then means the RX 6500 would have to push downward from that pressure.. etc etc

 

[cyrusfox]

I wouldn't use a passively cooled GPU, own one, wouldn't buy another. Kind of pointless when you have to make sure there is a case fan pointed at it to prevent it from running obscenely hot since natural convection keeps hot air trapped around the source in a conventional tower setup.

Passive doesn't need active airflow... You can stuff them in half height cases and they do fine, mine never get about 80°C suffocated, they usually only draw 20-30 W but is dependent on GPU and heatsink design. Most people get them for silence. I have a GT1030 and it works great. The only issue I have happened recently. Its a 2GB GDDR5 1030 and windows doesn't properly purge the memory so after prolong use we start to get stuttering(apparent on minecraft) To fix I need to disable and renable in device manager(or restart) to force the memory to flush and then it works great for awhile. I am going to pass the card off to someone stuck on Ivy bridge iGPU and live off my 12900k iGPU until I can get something better(Really would be a great candidate for a A380 or the lower model, I want passive for zero noise). The GPU use on this computer is content creation (Encoding, image manipulation, etc...) Gaming is a tertiary use.

Really hope Intel can launch soon, It seems like they have a good niche at the low end with the weak competition from AMD and Nvidia whose sole focus is on high end and maintaining margins in the low end. Intel may be a poor performer(Drivers are going to take a loooong time) but at the right price and with their well rounded offering (Encoder/decoder support, adobe optimizations, etc...) I think thy will do quite well.

 

[TerryLaze]

IGPs have been in practically every mainstream Intel CPU for the last 10 years, albeit disabled in some SKUs for a $0-20 discount and makes little difference in CPU performance when you don't actually use it. The expense in system memory is not particularly bad when you have 16GB of RAM, negligible when you have 32GB and the IGP only reserves that memory when actually needed too. Since the IGP shares system memory, using it eliminates the need to make local copies of game assets and contributes to lowering the memory footprint.

And AMD's next-gen CPUs will all have at least a basic IGP baked into their IOD too.

Yeah but we where talking about AMD iGPUs where you lose at least some cache if not a whole CCX to get the graphics that are decent enough to compare to these low end GPUs,
And then the power draw of the iGPU takes away from the power and thermal envelope the CPU can use to reach its full potential.
We weren't talking about the super weak (for gaming) intel iGPU (or what the new ryzens will have that will be in the same vein) that has no impact on the CPU other than the shared system ram.

 

[King_V]

I wouldn't use a passively cooled GPU, own one, wouldn't buy another. Kind of pointless when you have to make sure there is a case fan pointed at it to prevent it from running obscenely hot since natural convection keeps hot air trapped around the source in a conventional tower setup.

I have to admit, my old Sapphire Ultimate Radeon HD 6670 fanless did pretty well. Paid a whopping $99.99 for it back in 2012. And it was stuck in a Dell XPS 8300, which, while not terrible, wasn't exactly known for having the most robust airflow. PSU fan + 1 exhaust fan, but I guess the vents being at the bottom front and at the bottom of the side panel probably let the airflow go past those heatsink fins sufficiently to keep it happy.

 

[deesider]

And then the power draw of the iGPU takes away from the power and thermal envelope the CPU can use to reach its full potential.

Full potential doing what?
Do you actually use a workflow that uses 100% cpu and gpu simultaneously?

 

[deesider]

Remember when cards like this cost under $50?

"In those days, nickels had pictures of bumble bees on 'em. 'Gimme five bees for a quarter!', you'd say."

 

[TerryLaze]

Full potential doing what?
Do you actually use a workflow that uses 100% cpu and gpu simultaneously?

Do you actually want to suggest that modern AAA titles can't use 100% of the CPU of an APU and 100% of the GPU of an APU?!

 

[-Fran-]

Apologies for beating* a deadhorse, but I think this is relevant:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR6x-rvHXUI


Yikes.

Regards.

 

[InvalidError]

Apologies for beating* a deadhorse, but I think this is relevant:

AMD gets blasted for horrible price to performance and features on the RX6400/6500, Intel gets blasted for being too little too late with the Axxx series, Nvidia comes to the rescue with the GTX1630 making AMD and Intel look like saints at the $160 price point. Also makes the 1050Ti still look relatively good in some games.

 

[-Fran-]

AMD gets blasted for horrible price to performance and features on the RX6400/6500, Intel gets blasted for being too little too late with the Axxx series, Nvidia comes to the rescue with the GTX1630 making AMD and Intel look like saints at the $160 price point. Also makes the 1050Ti still look relatively good in some games.

For sure... It looks like nVidia doesn't want to lose the race to the bottom either. The want to win them all 😆

Regards.

 

[King_V]

Apologies for beating* a deadhorse, but I think this is relevant:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR6x-rvHXUI


Yikes.

Regards.

I know what his voice sounds like, but the moment I read "It stinks" my brain suddenly decided to hear it in, well, this guy's voice:

 

[King_V]

AMD gets blasted for horrible price to performance and features on the RX6400/6500, Intel gets blasted for being too little too late with the Axxx series, Nvidia comes to the rescue with the GTX1630 making AMD and Intel look like saints at the $160 price point. Also makes the 1050Ti still look relatively good in some games.

AMD and Intel: (look at each other, look at Nvidia, look back at each other, look back at Nvidia) . . "Uh, thanks, dude?"


EDIT: From Hardware Unboxed - "So, good job, there, Nvidia. You never cease to amaze us, and I can't wait for the DDR4 version, that will no doubt get quietly pushed out in a few months' time."

I feel like he jinxed us by saying this...