GTX 780 ti running too hot?

[prestigerg7]

Hello Everyone,

I recently had a GTX 770 and when I realized I couldn't SLI two 770's because of my power supply in the future I figured I'd rather get a higher end card and stay with one rather than replacing my power supply and re-wiring everything in the future. Anyways I was going to get a 780 however at my local store it was a little over priced and only $130 less than the ti so I figured why not and got it.

I set it up in the PC, booted up my PC, uninstalled my previous nvidia drivers and downloaded new ones. Then I went on to test it by playing some games. I played Assassins Creed 4 for about 30 minutes and when I went to check the temp saw it was hitting as high as 85C and normally stayed above 80. The game I had everything maxed except phyx was set to low. With vsync on it stayed at 30fps, if I took it off it hovered between 40-50. I was actually hoping to get 60 fps with vsync on but guess not.

Anywho is the card getting to hot? Considering I generally game for 2 hours up to as much as 4-5 straight on the weekends. Will the card consistently staying over 80C shorten its life span or cause my problems down the road? I ran the benchmark software that game with the EVGA cd, Valley benchmark, and it was hitting about 83-84C and staying there. Frames were high, usually in the 90's spiking as high as 120. The GTX 770 I had, had a ACX cooler and was usually around 65C under load, almost never going over 70. The GTX 780 my shop sells comes with the same cooler so I was thinking of downgrading if the heat would be an issue.

The exact 780 ti I have is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487001

The rest of my system is;
i5 4670k, not yet overclocked, usually sits a 3.80 mhz during games 55C
Evo 212 plus cooler
16GB ram
750W modular bronze cert Corsair PSU
250GB samsung 840 SSD

 

[henkbas]

you have enough airflow through your case? (what case do you have by the way?)

 

[azzazel_99]

Thats fine. I would however set a custom fan curve with evga precision X and with vsync on it should not be staying at 30 on assasins creed. It should be able to handle that game without issues. Something else is going on.

 

[tinmann]

Hi, what case are you using? Does it have good air flow? That does make a huge difference when cooling a GPU on air. I have a GTX 690 on air ( The card looks so sexy I don't have the heart to install the XSPC water block I bought for it) and it only gets to the mid 50's @5760X1080. There are a couple of games that send it to the 70's at that resolution like Far Cry 3 but then again I always use full towers with good air flow.

 

[prestigerg7]

This is the case I have. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119240

I have a 200mm intake fan on the front as well as a 120mm fan on the back and 140mm fan on top pushing air out. As well as a fan on the evo 212 pushing air towards the back fan. It should be sufficient air flow, I had a radeon 7870 before which ran cool in the past as well as the GTX 770 which runs cool. My cpu is rarely over 55C while gaming or anything else I do. But the 780 ti is more powerful than the others.

I was playing a little bit with the fan curve but pushing the fan harder makes it real loud. Around 80 degrees I had the fans I think at 80-85%.

The game itself plays great, very smooth at 30 FPS, even when I take vsync off and it moves between 40-50 its still smooth with no stuttering or glitching. I was just reading somewhere that if assassins creed 4 cant run at 60FPS the vsync will automatically push it down to 30FPS, thats why I was hoping the card would allow it to run at 60FPS with vsync on but maybe I misunderstood what I read regarding that.

So staying around 80-85C would be save for 2-3 hours+, I felt a little uneasy considering 95C is the max listed by nvidia.

 

[refillable]

This is a common High end Stock Coolers Card. You could Tidy up your cables and double check the airflow in your case. There is particularly nothing you can do with it's life span, other than replacing the cooler all by yourself, which will be very Risky. I hope the card will be fine until you upgrade your card.

 

[azzazel_99]

I always set a custom fan curve to keep my cards cooler. The cooler the better.

 

[prestigerg7]

Okay cool, I'll have to play around with the fan curve to hopefully get it below 80 degrees under load and not have it sound like a vacuume cleaner is on in my case.

Do you guys think it may be better if I can't get it much below the current 83-84 degrees its better just to downgrade to the GTX 780 which has a ACX cooler, which based on the GTX 770 I had with the same cooler it kept it at a nice 65 degrees under the same conditions as I'm putting on the 780 ti.

I would hope for the price of the 780 ti it lasts a good 3 years when I will start considering a new build.

 

[azzazel_99]

wait which 780ti did u get? Nevermind i see it. I would trade it in for a dual fan cooler honestly. I love the ref look as i think it looks the best but it doesnt cool nor overclock as well. I'd get a non reference model.

 

[azzazel_99]

for $10 more http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487003

Or go big and get the beast

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487007

 

[refillable]

I forgot that you can trade for a better cooler-ed card... If you can, it's the best thing you can do.

 

[prestigerg7]

Yea I wish the place I went to had the 780 ti with the ACX cooler, but they only carry the one model I got. I'm kind of stuck with store credit since I redeemed the games that came with the GTX 770. But since the other nvidia cards come with the same games I can switch to one of those.

I was looking around and found this chart which was pretty interesting. http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/evga_geforce_gtx_780_ti_sc_acx_superclock_review,8.html It shows the 780 ti with the ACX cooler runs nearly 20 degrees cooler under load which is impressive. And shows the card I have with the reference cooler running at 83C which is what I got.

Does the excessive heat degrade the GPU any faster? I was thinking I may be better of with the GTX 780 with the ACX cooler, that way I can even overclock it a little more than what it was at the factory and get closer performace to the ti, for about $130-$140 less.

 

[azzazel_99]

Na the 780ti even with ref cooler is still a great card. Maybe the 780 classified edition but the ref cooler is better for sli setups.

 

[nikoli707]

every chip and design is different but generally anything over 80c and you should start thinking about ways to keep things cooler. although 80c wont damage anything, at those temps if a fan fails or for whatever reason things heat up more, 90c can be attained within a minute or two and above 90c things can get out of hand quickly. for all this brand new tech we have, anything above 96c and things start melting.

 

[azzazel_99]

The 780ti still beats the 780. I would setup a custom fan profile and call it a day OR swap it out for a 780 hold onto the money you save and put it towards another 780 later to sli

 

[refillable]

The option buying a 780 (regular) seems to be great, but I would say I honestly won't do that. Overclocking the 780 will generate heat, which sometimes is not designed for such heat. If you are doing a little OC instead, the 780 Ti would be faster instead. That's why. I can't honestly be sure on how much the heat will affect aging, because there is so much of variables that affect the aging, but I can probably say that it's not going to affect that much.

 

[azzazel_99]

the 780ti ref model was designed to run at 85c so the temps are fine. I would again though trade it out for the 780 with the acx cooler from evga and the money you save use to buy another 780 later down the road and sli them. Thats just me.

 

[prestigerg7]

Thanks for all the answers guys. I have to play around with it then. I'll try to test and improve the fan curve and get it to at least stable at 80C, poping up to 85C makes me feel a bit uneasy. I'll try it with other demanding games too (bioshock infinite/arkham city) and see the temps they give me.

If it keeps hanging around 85C i'll probably get the gtx 780 and save the extra for a sli in the future or who knows what could be out in 2 years or so.

I at least have 30 days to exchange it so I'll play around with it.

 

[refillable]

Good luck.

 

[prestigerg7]

Thanks refillable.

Just a quick question, don't want to make another thread.

(side note) I was checking how fast fans were working while under full load when left on auto, it was only around 50-55% speed when I was in the 80-83 degrees. I set up a curve of 1 to 1, as in at 70 degrees speed is 70% and it was cooling nicely actually usually staying around the 70's, rarely going over 75C. However it was a bit loud as the fan was working hard. I tried to pull back the curve to something along the lines of minus 5 to 7% speed below the current temp, as in at 70 degrees fans going at 63%. It seemed to keep it as (+1/2 degrees) cool without working the fans as hard.

Well 2 questions really. Whats the general best way to set up a fan curve? Is there a general way or trial and error? Since this is my first time really messing with it.

And the other question, are these types of fans on graphics cards generally of good quality? As in if I run it at 75% to 80% speed for gaming sessions of 3-4+ hours, will that cause them to die out quicker and wear out the bearings or they can take it? I don't the fan to die out quicker because I have to run it harder to cool the card and then figure out a way to repair it.

 

[refillable]

I don't really play much with curves. All I care was at what temperature the fan will start spinning 100%. Usually Trial and Error of speeds that are not 100% doesn't help that much.

I can say the fan is pretty decent, I can also say that It can spin like that for 3 years, unless it's a bad fan from the factory. You can always claim a warranty.

 

[kyokushin4life]

really u can trade it for a better cooling card???
how can i do that i have the same graphics card that he has i just over clocked my gtx 780 ti to
GPU CLOCK:
1006 MHZ
BOOST CLOCK:
1072 MHZ

i dont know if its safe but my graphics card run on 80 to 82 Degrees Celsius

 

[azzazel_99]

a good target temp for gpu's is in the 70's. Rule of thumb....keep your card 5-10 degrees cooler than what the specs say its safe to run at.

 

[David Dutton]

The 780TI can take ultra high temps that would usually fry other GTX cards... in the past.. as a general rule of thumb, the instant a GTX card hit 90C... even for a second.. you just cut the life of the card in 1/2

Not the case with the 780TI.. the max operational temp is 95C... so it can run up to 95C without harming the life of the card... the DEATH temp for this card is 120C.. you touch that and the cards life is cut in half or could instantly burn out... I still wouldn't let it run that hot anyway.. if it says a card's max temp is XXC, I will never let the card go over Max Temp - 10C.. so in this case 85C. If my card hits 85C, I have utilities that will instantly start dropping the clock and memory speed until it cools down. By then the fan would be going as fast as it can... in my Precision X profile, the fan hits it's max speed on my 780TI at 75F... something must be wrong with your card...

I say this because I have a 760 sitting right "below" it.. the 760 is a dedicated PhysX card... and yes.. for PhysX intensive games, it makes a HUGE difference.. it's almost like having SLI... anyway.. that 760 gets warm and my twin 780TI fans are sucking in air right off that hot card

Before I put in the 760, I'd idle at 23-25c.. and under MAX load, the card NEVER went over 65C....

Now I idle at 30C of the room is COLD (60F)... and I idle at 35C if the room is 68F... once I start gaming, I've seen the card hit about 75..sometimes 80C...

So if your card is getting that hot and has nothing in the way.. either

1) your card's cooling system is defective
2) the card is bad and is overheating beyond the capabilities of the cooling system
3) the brand you got is crap and they put a crappy cooling system on it... I have an EVGA twin fan cooling system.. it works VERY well
4) Your case is hot inside... but still.. even if the ambient temp INSIDE your case was 100F.. that would NOT explain temps that high.. my ambient temp.. when heavy gaming is 85F and my office is 68F...AND my 780TI is pulling hot air WELL above 100F off the 760... so I seriously doubt it's your case unless it's getting up to 120-140 in there... IF that were the case, your CPU, memory and other things would be overheating also

Chances are.. bad card or bad cooling system

I would have gone SLI, but I'd need a new psu... I only have ONE 6 pin left.... my old 560TIs need TWO 6 pin..and this OEM Dell 760 needs only 1 6pin (took it out of my partners machine when I put in a Titian Black)

Hello Everyone,

I recently had a GTX 770 and when I realized I couldn't SLI two 770's because of my power supply in the future I figured I'd rather get a higher end card and stay with one rather than replacing my power supply and re-wiring everything in the future. Anyways I was going to get a 780 however at my local store it was a little over priced and only $130 less than the ti so I figured why not and got it.

I set it up in the PC, booted up my PC, uninstalled my previous nvidia drivers and downloaded new ones. Then I went on to test it by playing some games. I played Assassins Creed 4 for about 30 minutes and when I went to check the temp saw it was hitting as high as 85C and normally stayed above 80. The game I had everything maxed except phyx was set to low. With vsync on it stayed at 30fps, if I took it off it hovered between 40-50. I was actually hoping to get 60 fps with vsync on but guess not.

Anywho is the card getting to hot? Considering I generally game for 2 hours up to as much as 4-5 straight on the weekends. Will the card consistently staying over 80C shorten its life span or cause my problems down the road? I ran the benchmark software that game with the EVGA cd, Valley benchmark, and it was hitting about 83-84C and staying there. Frames were high, usually in the 90's spiking as high as 120. The GTX 770 I had, had a ACX cooler and was usually around 65C under load, almost never going over 70. The GTX 780 my shop sells comes with the same cooler so I was thinking of downgrading if the heat would be an issue.

The exact 780 ti I have is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487001

The rest of my system is;
i5 4670k, not yet overclocked, usually sits a 3.80 mhz during games 55C
Evo 212 plus cooler
16GB ram
750W modular bronze cert Corsair PSU
250GB samsung 840 SSD

 

[17seconds]

The GTX 780 Ti is designed to target exactly 82c as a load temperature. People need to understand this, and should quit acting like there's something wrong at that temperature. Look, fire up MSI Afterburner or PrecisionX and check the setting for "Temp Limit". It says 82c, right? So the card is designed to run at that temperature while adjusting other variables to maintain it. Turbo Boost speeds, fan speeds, power limits, and voltage all adjust automatically to maintain that standard operating temperature. This is how Turbo Boost 2.0 works.

You may adjust your Temp Limit lower using Afterburner or Precision, but it will only result in lower Turbo Boost clocks and lower performance. If you raise your Temp Limit, you will increase your Turbo Boost clocks. The fans will also speed up or down accordingly as well. Basically, your card is running exactly as designed, your temps are fine, and everything is normal.