GTX-780ti VS R9 290X

[Sam666]

Which one is better for gaming and video Editing.

 

[legend001523]

780 ti if you have the money and want best of the best, r9 290x if you want to save money but have 10% less perfomance than a 780 ti

 

[gamer1411]

In any case dont buy GIGABYTE.

Gigabytes 770 and 780 are just great and also have low price.

anything gigabyte i've owned and friends of mine owned was a complete pile of junk.

I second this motion.

Also, not sure what is the thread about 780Ti is more powerful (and I have 290X, so definitely not Nvidia fanboy), it should be kind of obvious by now.

I, for example, got my 290X Tri-X because it was significantly cheaper that 780Ti and honestly I even regret I did not stay with my original choice of 290 Tri-X - because it's almost half as cheap as 780Ti and is almost as good as 290X anyway (like couple % of difference in performance -_-).

The only thing I believe is wrong with 780Ti is it having 3GB VRAM, I find it unacceptable for the price it commands.

I agree completely. Its either 3gb and have to replace in 3 years or 6gb and spend a pile of money for wasted vram. (6gb is only for the 780 too) I wanted to by the trix so bad but my case won't fit it 🙁. Looks like im stuck with nvidia

if 780ti made for example 4gb of vram that would be awesome. But still for 1080p gaming that is plenty of power.
I like Nvidia because their cards are MUCH cooler,use less power,and make less noise. They do cost a little bit more,but people often look only on perfomance. For example 780ti is like 10% better then 290x and it cost 20-25% more. So they think it is not worth it. But it will run cooler you will be able to overclock it more,and you have better drivers,shadowplay etc.

This is a very flawed comparison not taking into account the fact that cards like 290X Tri-X take care of all heat and noise issues and at this point they cost nearly the same as reference cards.

Take my example - my 290X Tri-X cost me $150 less than the closest 780Ti option (Windforce) and heat/noise/power consumption for these cards is identical really:

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/gigabyte-gtx780-ti-windforce-oc-review-1080p-1600p-4k/28/

So in this case I would pay $150 for a small performance bump and that's it... not a great deal.

It is if you compare it for lets say Asus Matrix Platnium or best from evga. Also there is shadowplay and drivers support. And still I watched few reviews and if I don't make mistake 780ti can be clocked higher.
In this case maybe 780ti is not worth the money,but hey,if you have 600$ for graphic card or more,that probably means money is not really a problem. And you would benefit from extra 100$. Of course it is better to buy lets say SSD or more Ram for that money,but if you already have all this things and you want top of a line product then 780ti is the way to go.

 

[gamer1411]

780 ti if you have the money and want best of the best, r9 290x if you want to save money but have 10% less perfomance than a 780 ti

Agree

 

[LiquidAurum]

The problem that AMD has again and again, unfortuante since I am AMD, is lack of good drivers. They are honestly hit and miss. I game on Linux and Windows, and their Linux proprietary drivers are honestly really bad.

 

[xgamer1500]

The 780ti's just jumped up to $700 again. So thats a $200 difference between the 290x and 780ti for an at most 10% increase in performance. Not worth it. If you must buy nvidia, save your self the $ and buy a 780. I'd also say buy a regular 290 than the x, i don't see the extra $150 is worth it for the marginal performance increase. But if thats what you like go for it. The 290x is more powerful than the 780, the 780 is more powerful than the 290. You decide.

 

[legend001523]

The 780ti's just jumped up to $700 again. So thats a $200 difference between the 290x and 780ti for an at most 10% increase in performance. Not worth it. If you must buy nvidia, save your self the $ and buy a 780. I'd also say buy a regular 290 than the x, i don't see the extra $150 is worth it for the marginal performance increase. But if thats what you like go for it. The 290x is more powerful than the 780, the 780 is more powerful than the 290. You decide.

people who can afford a 780 ti will GET a 780 ti, but , GO WITH WHAT YOUR HEART SAYS

 

[bobdakiller]

Which one is better for gaming and video Editing.

Honestly the 290x is the better choice for these reasons 1st off there is a 200 dollar price diffrence on newegg as of today 2nd the 290x beats 780ti in clock speed pixel rate more memory higher 3d 11 mark rates.The 780 ti wins in memory clock speed, power usage ,texture mapping but the diffrence is not worth 200 dollars at this point in time having both the experience is identical from my 2 builds with both

 

[LiquidAurum]

Can you guys stop quoting large sections? just one quote is ok rather then quote inside a quote

 

[Empyah]

Do your(future)self a favor and get either a SAPPHIRE VAPOR-X TRI-X OC R9 290 or X they are the best GPUs you can buy atm with price, performance, temperature and noise in mind, the X is the fastest out of box R9 290 and even beats a MSI GAMING 780ti in raw performance(not to mention more ram, better high res capabilities etc.) and they both overclock like no othere R9 290s and you dont need to watercool them.
Oh and you get 3(yes THREE) games with any 290.

 

[Plofo]

@gamer1411 I am fully aware no one mentioned the 7990. That is precisely the reason I did! I previously stated in an earlier comment which card Sam should buy out of the 290x and 790Ti. Now I'll say it again. I like gaming and I am a professional editor, fluent in nearly every editing format and solution there is. From premier, Avid, Purple, Final cut, Sony etc. No editing manufacturer really recommends or supports either card. But out of the two, the 780Ti is recommended more often, as ATI/AMD rarely are. This is due to Nvidias use of Cuda cores which editing solutions favour. Having said that, they are not vital. They only assist with transitional effects and effects alone. With nearly all editing solutions and turnkey options, processor, SSD, HDD and RAM speeds are the most vital and in key performance hardware needs for editing. As for gaming, there is nothing really in it as far as performance goes. It is marginal, with the 780Ti coming out on top, yet the dramatic price comparison places the 290x as my personal (and many other professional tests and casual gamers agree with). I have owned both and suggested the 290x was the better deal. I need to make this clear, just because AMD/ATI aren't on the recommended lits, doesn't mean they do not work. They do!

I don't care too much about whether Sam likes my choice so much, its for others like myself who spend years researching and saving before buying. I'm not a representative for either or any gfx company. I'm not going to spurt out my personal bench marks etc just yet. The results and proof are all over Tom's and hundreds of other trusted sites on the net.

So, after explaining myself, I shall now offer what I think should be offered. A third and forth option supported by the same trusted sites and many of Tom's own tests/review's. Go check them or simply type HD 7990 into Google or 7990 vs!

For the prices of the above you can have two HD 7990's.
Just one is faster than the 780Ti and 290x respectively, FACT! Upon the 7990's release, AMD advertised the card as the fasted card on the market. By law, they cannot lie and their proof has to be backed up before they proclaim their card to be that. Otherwise, Nvidia and Co can sue etc. It held the rank of fastest and most powerful card until April this year, only yielding to its younger brother, the 295x2, then to the Titan Z. The 7990 is now been discontinued. The 7990 flopped due to its early driver issues, or should I say, lack of drivers to assist that particular monolithic card. By late October last year AMD were back on track with relation to their drivers and the card was what it should have been on its release. However, the damage had been done. In the minds of many, and at a time the card was priced the same as the Titan and 690 ($1000+) who was willing to take the risk. With a majority of actual game tests showing 7/10 of the best and most popular games of the time (far cry, crysis 3, BF4, Cod Ghosts, Tomb Raider, BioShock inf etc) running 12-20% (sometimes even 24% faster) faster and better on the HD 7990 than its main rivals, the Titan, 690, 780Ti, 780, 7970 GHz edition (which the 7990 is two of), 680 and 770. With more recent games like Watchdogs, the 7990 in my experience was fantastic. With no glitches, rips, tares, freezes etc at a capped 60Fps its was a min of 60Fps, Average 60Fps and max 60Fps. Crysis 3 min 32Fps, average 46fps max and capped 60fps all on ultra. including AA etc. When I say ultra I do mean every single setting available is set to its maximum @1920x1080p. Bf4 I tested without Vsync with a min of 114fps max of 200+fps etc etc. Remember, modern and future games will run even better as the are coded to support more than on GPU.
The 7990 is as quiet as the 690. Barely noticeable under stress (takes a lot to stress), if at all than the 780Ti and quieter than the 290x.
When a $1,000+ price tag is adorned upon a single component, do you think power consumption was on the list of priorities. It is likening to buying a £100,000 Range Rover and worrying about fuel consumption! With Hardware of this kind, it is considered that, if you can afford the card, the dollar or two a week/month more on electricity wouldn't be a issue, let alone considered. With the current price of the 7990 matched with its performance, it was very moronic to suggest such trivial drivel and tripe!

The 7990 is only £270 new now on eBay. Two can be had for £500. The price of a single 780Ti in some cases!
I've had problems which I thought was down to the card. In fact it was a PSU failure and nothing to do with the card. So the card has worked flawlessly since I've owned it. It has out performed my 780Ti (its results in actual play are not far of that of x2 780Ti's I had set in SLI) and 290x. At idle, core 0 is a consistent 40c and core 1 is is @37c. Under full load after and hour the peak temperature of core 0 is a maximum of 78c and core 1 @76c. The card is XFX reference triple fan that never exceed 37% speed. My case is large. An Areoflow Xpredator.

I've bought and used 150+ cards since 1996, and tested many many more. A majority of which were Nvidia, as they the best for some time, and definitely the most common. I build a new system every 3-5 years for myself, but in between that time I'm replacing gfx cards, PSU's and ram more often than any other component. When a processor or motherboard need upgrading, that is the time I have a complete new system rebuild. All the while I'm researching future candidate components very closely. I've build many other systems for many others for many purposes.

To not buy a 7990 at the price they are at now is a lesson in stupidity. Spurting out "Nvidia rock and are the best" is nothing. Means nothing, and proves nothing. They are a very good card. Yet since AMD and Rad merged, AMD have not only fast tracked their way into being that, an Nvidia head ache, they have now exceeded their performance twice. Build quality may not seam as good to the eye or touch but it is nevertheless, as good. It is the tacky feel and look that helps AMD keep their prices cheaper. If they can stay on top of their drivers, I could honestly see them taking the sales crown soon.

In a nutshell, buy a 7990 and save loads whilst gaining serious power and performance, or buy two 7990's. If not, buy a 290x and use the saving to buy whatever. Water cooled 7990 is still far cheaper than a 290x and 780Ti. All because of Amd cocking up driver support at launch date. Take full advantage whilst you can Sam. I know I'm buying another one in 9 days. Quad crossfire, or crossfired 7990's for £500, bargain!

Totally agree

 

[Nirmk]

You are obviously a teenage n00b, and so are the bozos that gave you their clueless answers.
The correct answer(s) are:
- A teenager with a budget for $400-900 for just a graphics card, means you have a budget for a $2K rig. Where the ph*ck did you get that cash? Your mom's credit card? If you want to waste $700 to play games, you need to grow a brain or get your ass back to school until you can afford a professional workstation for WORK, instead of wasting other people's cash on stupid 3D war games.
- NONE of these cards are pro grade. Having said that, EVERYTHING the rest of the bozos here told you is the exact opposite.
The future is OpenCL and Mantle. Not the proprietary Cuda SHIT. Every single one of the pro software either has or will have full OpenCL support within 2014 and phase out Cuda. OpenCL is supported by the entire community, while Cuda is a closed nVidia PoS.
- The 290X is a marketing JOKE. Get a 290 and watercool it with a ready closed-loop system with that $100 that you save from not buying the 290X.
- 2 X 290s watercooled are the same price as one 780Ti watercooled, and you get 2 cards with 2GB vram MORE, and 512Bit EACH, instead of a single 3GB with only 384Bit. The numbers speak for themselves.
- AMD's support for Linux and open software is second to none. nVidia's is almost non-existent.

So..........do I need to say more on what card is better as an investment and future proof ?
Stay away from nVidia's overpriced CRAP and if you want more games/less pro software buy 2 watercooled 290s,
if you want more pro software/less gaming get a FirePro w7000, the best bang for your (mom's) buck.

..........and STOP asking for advice for pro hardware in consumer-grade forums. Get advice from PROs, not amateur kids.
Btw, the best pro rig for editing is AVID-Dual Xeon-2xFireGLw7000, in case you're wondering. I know, because I have it.
My advice: Stop *king around with stupid games made by idiots that demand a supercomputer to run their shitty code, build a general purpose rig to serve you in every aspect for years, and get a girlfriend to have fun. And change your stupid nickname.
.......teens these days........I'm too old for this crap.

This is the greatest comment ever.

this is a great comment but he is 100% right nvidia cuda cores is software driven for games that exactly designed for along time nvidia was the lower in dog card but came up because they were the cheapsest it the was the other way around. more game designers are going with amd now days this is a fact. any other comments saying otherwise means you need to do your research amd is ahead of nvidia in raw power. nvidia card has alot less streaming processors than amd scores and bench marks depend on what they are written for in alot of devoplers testing most will tell you you cant beat the raw power of a amd card i have always been a nvidia user and a ati user and my self went with a 290x because i snagged 1 for 150 brand new off craigs list and also have gotten gtx 780 there is no comparison 290x is far superior in alot of games exspecially bf4 but here is a game that doesnt support cuda its written by coding that uses what these cards are designed for if the 780 or even 980 had a bit higher specs of certain feature it would be equal open is a base format that has been around for years i love the fan base of nvidia vs amd /ati or amd vs intel because half of these ppl dont no what they are talking about nvidia doesnt have a lead on amd and intle only has a slight lead on amd but when it comes to best bang for you buck is were to look hmm do i get this for 300 more for a slight gain and braggin rights or do i svae my moeny and go with what can get it done if you look at most sites on vs anything alot of them are fan based too like a i7 4770k vs amd fx 8320 everyone is omg the i7 is the best and come up with there on un true benchmarks lol looka at actual user test you will see the i7 only beat the amd cpu by 3 to 5 % difference for double the price 150 cpu vs 500 cash lest use our heads ppl and save your pockets and your mommy and dads money lol

 

[John_x99]

You are obviously a teenage n00b, and so are the bozos that gave you their clueless answers.
The correct answer(s) are:
- A teenager with a budget for $400-900 for just a graphics card, means you have a budget for a $2K rig. Where the ph*ck did you get that cash? Your mom's credit card? If you want to waste $700 to play games, you need to grow a brain or get your ass back to school until you can afford a professional workstation for WORK, instead of wasting other people's cash on stupid 3D war games.
- NONE of these cards are pro grade. Having said that, EVERYTHING the rest of the bozos here told you is the exact opposite.
The future is OpenCL and Mantle. Not the proprietary Cuda SHIT. Every single one of the pro software either has or will have full OpenCL support within 2014 and phase out Cuda. OpenCL is supported by the entire community, while Cuda is a closed nVidia PoS.
- The 290X is a marketing JOKE. Get a 290 and watercool it with a ready closed-loop system with that $100 that you save from not buying the 290X.
- 2 X 290s watercooled are the same price as one 780Ti watercooled, and you get 2 cards with 2GB vram MORE, and 512Bit EACH, instead of a single 3GB with only 384Bit. The numbers speak for themselves.
- AMD's support for Linux and open software is second to none. nVidia's is almost non-existent.

So..........do I need to say more on what card is better as an investment and future proof ?
Stay away from nVidia's overpriced CRAP and if you want more games/less pro software buy 2 watercooled 290s,
if you want more pro software/less gaming get a FirePro w7000, the best bang for your (mom's) buck.

..........and STOP asking for advice for pro hardware in consumer-grade forums. Get advice from PROs, not amateur kids.
Btw, the best pro rig for editing is AVID-Dual Xeon-2xFireGLw7000, in case you're wondering. I know, because I have it.
My advice: Stop *king around with stupid games made by idiots that demand a supercomputer to run their shitty code, build a general purpose rig to serve you in every aspect for years, and get a girlfriend to have fun. And change your stupid nickname.
.......teens these days........I'm too old for this crap.

HOLY FUCK, I know this post is old as fuck, but holy shit, you are the biggest fanboy there is, oh yeah the best is amd blah blah "because i have it" amd/mantle/opencl fucks blows a fat dick by a street strung out heroin addict hooker, like for real man, stop blowin your load on what you think is right, the kid was jkust asking, he knew he was going to get opnions, like holy shit you are not the king of hardware, if you are going to use more cuda based software then get nvidia, if you are going to use open cl and stream processors more, then get amd, its what you are going to use it for, not the money, I would take it, if you need to run cuda softwarew then you would probly have the money to get what you need to do it, and vice versa, this is all opinions, i just hate reading your fanboy shit "cause i have one" like cool i respect that, that is your opinion, but dont get all cocky and blow your load all over this thread.