GTX 970 performing poorly. Need help!

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Hello everyone! Thanks for checking this thread out. Unfortunatly I am having trouble with my Zotac GTX 970. Whenever I load up a game my FPS is significantly lower than other people's FPS on the same card. For example, I play Titanfall alot, but whenever I load it up and I load up Fraps as well to see my FPS, it is always much lower than what other people are experiencing. I have all my drivers updated, and I always keep Vsync off. Can you help?

My Specs:
Intel i7 4790k @ 4.0 Ghz (Stock speed+cooler)
MSI Z97 Gaming 5 MoBo
Zotac GTX 970 4gb (I know its actually 3.5) at stock speed
Corsair Vengeance 8gb DDr3 RAM @ 1600mhz
Corsair Graphite series 230T case
EVGA 600B PSU 80+ bronze
WD caviar black 2TB + 3TB
HP disk drive

Here are my peripherals (idk if they matter in this situation)
Razer Naga 2014 MMO mouse
Razer mechanical blackwidow ultimate stealth edition keyboard
Kingston HyperX cloud headset
Magnavox 32 inch TV 1366x760 @ 60hz (temporarily)

Thanks!
 
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Hi! Thanks for responding so quickly! Here are some benchmarks that i have:
Titanfall: 45-50 fps
Skyrim: 60 fps
Borderlands 2: 60 fps (But dips very frequently)
Batman arkham origins: 40-50 fps
If you need any more I can run some more tests! Thanks!
 
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One thing to remember, FRAPS is a bit of an overhead. It will drop your actual FPS a bit. Have you tried any games with built in benchmarks or possibly games with built in FPS counters, such as a Source based game like Titanfall?

http://www.titanfall-community.com/threads/heres-how-to-show-your-framerate.3064/

Since Titanfall is Source based you can actually use commands to tell it to load the FPS in the upper left hand corner so you can eliminate the overhead caused by FRAPS.

Another issue is the resolution is very low and that GPU is being bottlenecked by that. I think if you get to at least 1080P you would be a bit happier.
 
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A few things you might consider doing:

1. Check you power/battery settings in control panel. Switch it to "High performance" if it's not there.

2. Disable NVIDIA Streaming service if you don't use SHIELD or ShadowPlay
- run services.msc
- changed NVIDIA Streaming from "Automatic" to "Disabled"
- reboot

3. Open NVIDIA control panel, under 3D settings there's a power management option (not sure what it's called in English, I have Polish drivers) - change from "Adaptive" to "Prefer high performance"

4. Try OC-ing your card a bit using software provided to you or MSI burner if you have a bit more experience. For example on my Asus 970 I could go up to 1430 MhZ on GPU core and 8000 on RAM.

Hope that helps a bit,

Ari
 
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You can check FPS using MSI Afterburner. It'll show you all these data about GPU (fps, temps etc) while in game as an overlat. You don't have to overclock but it's a nice thing to have and to monitor.
 
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I built my computer from scratch back in September of 2014. I didnt have the money for the 970 at the time so I survived on the built in hd 4600 until i got the money for the 970. As for the shadowplay fps i had no idea that even existed. so thank you so much i will definatly try that as soon as possible. I have all my drivers updated with GeForce experience. Thanks for the reply!
 
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Thanks Ari! Thanks for the help! I will try everything that you listed I will try as soon as possible. I am leery on overclocking because I have heard stories about people overclocking and it damaging their components.
 
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Don't worry about the O/Cing at the moment.

If I were you I'd:
- clean the gpu drivers using software I linked above
- reinstall (without 3dvision driver and the other one I guess you won't need it), use "clean install"
- try 1st 3 steps from the list (without OCing)

And let me know! I hope it'll help.

One more thing: go into your BIOS and check if your PC isn't set to "ECO Friendly" mode or other stuff like that designed to make it more silent and humanity burn less coal to power our rigs 😀
 
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Yes, I believe I have the HDMI plugged into my 970 and not my motherboard.
 
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HI, sorry for the delay. Unfortunatly I havent been able to up the performance yet. I am considering replacing my 970 with a 780. I hear it has similar performance and I hope it is more supported. Any thoughts?
 
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Terrible idea. Just do some troubleshooting and find the problem, otherwise it could continue with another card.

did you check CPU temps in game like I suggested?
 
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Do you have V-sync enabled in these games?

What's your 3D Mark Score? Download 3D Mark and run Fire Strike and post the results.
You should easily have above 10k score without OC-ing. I did hit 11746 with slight overclocking:

- BIOS'ie in performance mode, oc'ed CPU to 4,6k (sync all cores),
- GPU oc in advanced mode" using Asus GPU Tweak:
- clock - 1440,
- memory - 8000,
- power target: 120,
- gpu: temp: 91,
- max gpu voltage: 1213

Max GPU temp was 71 degree Celsius during this test. Normally with no OC and my PC
tuned down for silent mode (when I do my office work) I hit around 10300 in Fire Strike.
 
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Another thing I can think of is that you've accidentally turned DSR on in NVIDIA's panel 3d settings. Also check your pci-e settings in bios, maybe it's running in slower mode than it should be (x16) ?

Download Open Hardware Monitor or HWInfo or use your card's software to check the temps and core/memory speed. Maybe something is throttling your GPU and thus the low results.
 
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I did on a few games and they get pretty hot. (Although I dont have alot of experience with temperatures.) I tested Minecraft with the shaders mod installed on it and I tested Titanfall. If you need more I will be more than happy to share the results.
Minecraft with shaders:
GPU temp: up to 83 Degrees Celsius
CPU temp: up to 67 Degrees Celsius
and the fps stayed right around the 90 mark but it fluctuated ALOT.
Titanfall:
GPU temp: up to 86 Degrees Celsius
CPU temp: up to 78 Degrees Celsius
FPS: 45-55

I tried launching 3Dmark but all I got was errors.
Thanks!
 
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I will go ahead and download it on my computer and i will reply once i get some results.
 
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So I ran the tests on 3Dmark FireStrike and I scored 9193 overall with a 10490 graphics score, a 11483 physics score, and a 4129 combined score. Is this good for what I have?
 
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A little lower than I would expect but in all honesty within reason for your rig.
Definitely some inherent problem holding it back in gaming though - those scores should see you running well over 60fps maxed out in any game youve mentioned so far.

Your CPU & GPU temps while within stated specs are very very high IMO during your titanfall session - what's your case cooling like ???
Under 60fps means your card is running at 50-60% capacity on that game & I would expect temps to be low 60's max.
 
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