GTX 980ti for 1080p gaming at 60hz

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MachX

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Hi Guys.

Will GTX 980Ti overkill at 1080p at 60hz monitor

My specs are

i5-4590
8 GB RAM
ASUS H97 Plus motherboard
1 TB HDD
Benq RL2455HM 1080p @60hz monitor

Will my specs bottleneck GTX 980Ti

Will GTX 980Ti will fully support DirectX 12 for coming days?
Is it future proof?

I play games like the latest multiplayer AAA titles like BF4, BFH, Arma 3, BF3 and some GTA5 as well. But I would love to max out all the settings. Even want to raise the resolution scale in BF4 to at least 150%.

So is this card great for all my AAA games? or I should wait for Pascal, coz when Pascal is release the GTX 980Ti and other NVIDIA card prices will come down a bit.

Thanks and any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks for reading and your time.
 

Epicness937

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very true im best with cards i own or owned at one point i wish i had a 980 ti but my 970 sli is just a good
 

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Because I can read a graph and extrapolate? bench.anandtech.com tells me that my overclocked 980 is about 75% the speed of a Ti, and a card I have that is 75% the speed of my 980 (my 970) runs everything at 1080p Ultra settings @ 60 FPS. I can run almost everything at Ultra settings at 1440p over 60 FPS on the 980 with 77% more pixels than 1080p. In your own signature you show you have a 165 Hz 1440p monitor, so your statements to the OP should include that your monitor can take up to nearly 5x the bandwidth in terms of pixel throughput.

In the meantime, OP has wasted his money on a card that is 25% slower than the 1080 which will be hundreds of dollars cheaper and much more "future proof". He could have waited and got the 1080 or spent massively less on a cheap 970 that would have done the job perfectly for a few years.

I didn't waste my money, because my GTX 980 is two years old and I've enjoyed gaming with it immensely in that time. A 980 Ti with the 1080 right around the corner is a questionable purchase, and like I said, massive overkill for 1080p gaming. I guarantee there is not even 1% of current games that would be consistently above 70% GPU usage at 1080p on a Ti and many that would barely peak above 50.
 

SoNic67

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Current games are designed for an ATI gpu that is eons behind, the GPU that is used in consoles. Using higher resolution monitors add nothing to the game expedite since they just add pixels without any real information. Kids always will be brave about their toys and GPU manufacturers will gladly take their parents money for some empty benchmarks.

As for the comment above that supposedly you need to own a card to be able to comment about it. On that line only my wife can comment about Hyundai Sonatas because she owns one. All those mechanics have no right to say anything about the Sonatas.... Ridiculous.
 

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I notice you haven't bothered to use the quote feature here... could that be because what your referring to was never written?

I did not comment saying "You cant talk about a 980ti because you don't own one". What I said was "I really dont understand why people who have never owned a 980ti think they know better than someone who does."

Within your example, that translates to: "On that line, my wife probably knows more about the Sonatas she owns than someone who has never even seen one let alone owned one". - You see the difference? You are more than welcome to speculate using second hand information but the OP asked a question about something that I and others on this thread have first hand experience of, and its up to him to chose what is more reliable.

As for benchmarks, they are a great source of base line information, but they rarely show the whole picture and frequently skip over little details that actual consumers who use the cards for years - instead of just a couple of hours for testing - notice. Also, this is a forum. We are here to give personal responses to people based on our own knowledge or experience. If the OP felt that simple benchmarks answered his question, then he wouldnt have felt the need to post here.

I have owned and extensively used/tested the following configurations running the latest games (GTA:V, Fallout 4, The Witcher 3, Total War: Attila, The Division, to name a few) all within the last year.

970 @ 1080p 60hz (secondary system)
980 @ 1080p 60hz and 1440p 165hz (no longer owned)
980ti @ 1080p 60hz and 1440p 165hz (current main system).

The statement that a 970 can run every game at Ultra (i.e. max) settings and maintain a solid 60fps is total fiction. That is literally impossible with every single game I listed above. Medium-High settings? Sure. Ultra-Max? No way. GTA:V comes close, but still no where near max settings and still not a constant 60fps.

The only card of the three listed above that is capable of that is the 980ti - speaking from first hand experience - and if that is what you want, then the 980ti cannot be considered 'overkill'. Is it overkill for most people who just want an average 60fps with high settings? Sure, but if you want perfection (well almost; even at 1080p Total War and the Division will still drop you below 60fps occasionally) and the ability to keep that level of performance for years to come, than youve 'wasted' no money what so ever.

Obviously all this is now totally obsolete after the 1000 series launch.
 

SoNic67

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Owning a thing doesn't make you an expert.
Researching it can bring more information than just owning, and that's my point.
Also, other people tested 970 on different systems and they got 60fps. Your statement is valid only for that particular system, and might be influenced by other factors (like CPU/memory bottleneck).

Personal experience: I own a 960 and I know that on my CPU (6 core Xeon, 24GB memory) it can run any game at 1080 on Ultra - except the PhysX part (for that I have to use another 730). So I can't buy it either that 970 is not enough for 1080 gaming. That tells me that a 970 can handle 60FPS with no issues, on the right system. A 980? Definitely overkill.
Tip: Use GPU-Z to find out the actual GPU usage on any given card. If that GPU is not used at some 99%, then the card is overkill for that application.
 

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Of course it doesn't, thats why I went out of my way to list several different systems I own / have owned and specifically said I tested them thoroughly with a large amount of current games. Simply skimming through other peoples benchmarks doesn't make you an expert either.

My conclusions are based on both first hand experience and second hand benchmarks, which is more than anyone here.

As in my last post, this thread is now completely obsolete given the launch of Pascal, so I wont be commenting anymore, but I will say this: You own a low end system and in your 4 years on this forum, have given a total of 5 solutions. Don't presume to 'tip' people with basic knowledge like 'use GPU-Z', - it could be taken as offensive.
 

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I never made such a claim. I said "virtually every" meaning there are always exceptions (like Witcher III with Hairworks + Foliage Distance Ultra) or GTA V with some settings put to Ultra that make almost no visual impact and cost significant FPS. On some AAA games you will need turn a setting or two off, these are often overkill settings intended to give the engine work to do on the next-gen of cards. But this is the exception, not the rule - there are only a handful of games I need to lower any settings from highest on my 970 based HTPC. 970 was a great 1080p card and still is, waiting 2 months for the 1070 would have saved the OP lots of money and netted him better performance. Buying at the super high end with next gen around the corner is never a bright thing to do.