GTX Titan X 12 GB not performing well

[georgek32]

My PC specs are as follows:

i7 - 4790K CPU @ 4.00 GHz
16GB Ram Kingston HyperX Fury Black
ASUS R.O.G. Maximus VII Ranger - Z97
SSD 250GB Samsung EVO
2TB HDD
850 W Corsair power supply

I just got the GTX Titan X and have all the updated drivers. However, on games like GTA 5 or Crysis 3, my FPS does not exceed the 60 mark on 1080 p Ultra. I am sure this is not right. Any help as to why I am not getting max performance?

Thanks
George

 

[plaintuts]

Maybe fps limit is set to 60

Check on how to change that for those specific games

 

[georgek32]

I checked and that's not the case. Even in games like League of Legends, I had better FPS with my GTX 970 Strix Series than the GTX Titan X

 

[plaintuts]

Maybe its a feature on the Gpu,

Only way to test is to use a 4k monitor, like intended for that card

 

[georgek32]

Maybe its a feature on the Gpu,

Only way to test is to use a 4k monitor, like intended for that card

I've seen benchmarks with similar specs as my PC and same games with this GPU at over 100 fps at 1080 p. So I am sure it must be something else.

 

[skit75]

Make sure V-Sync is off in the global driver, not just in the game. The global driver setting can override your in-game settings.

 

[azathoth]

Your FPS will never exceed your monitors refresh rate with VSYNC enabled. Disabling this will allow a higher framerate, but introduce tearing.

 

[MarkW]

Nearly all monitors sold today are set to operate at 60Hz, which means they can refresh the monitor 60 times a second.

Your Vsync setting is most likely turned on, which is a good thing because it limits your video card system to that same 60 frames per second that your monitor can display. Vsync can be turned off, but if your video card(s) are able to produce frames faster than 60 FPS, you may very well end up with what is described as "tearing". Tearing where part of one frame is drawn by the monitor, and before the monitor has finished drawing the previous frame, the next frame is shoved into its memory by the video card, and so starting at the point where the new frame was in the monitors memory and working downward the second frame is what is drawn, and sometimes a third frame can come so fast that part of it is what gets drawn on the lower portion of the screen. Now since each frame represents different movement points on the screen, having parts of 2 or 3 frames on the display all at the same time, some items may display offset in one direction or another, and that is tearing.

Nvidia and AMD have both come up with solutions to this. Essentially, they are both making monitors a bit smarter by letting them communicate with the video card. The video card will wait for the monitor to tell it that the previous frame has been drawn, and then the video card will send the data for the next frame to the monitor, then generate the following frame while the monitor is drawing the frame it just received. There is more to it than that, but that's the basic concept. Nvidia's version is called G-Sync. AMD's is called FreeSync. Nvidia charges monitor companies for a small add-in card to enable this. AMD created an open standard for theirs, and as the name implies, its free. Monitors for both are trickling out now. The 2 solutions are not compatible with each other.

Anyways, 60 FPS is the goal for most people. And with that pair of Titan X's, you should be able to maintain that 60 FPS almost constantly in many games. Its *not* bad* or *weak*. Its pretty good. Most of us have to deal with significantly lower FPS numbers, and constant drops as we move through these games.

 

[skit75]

Maybe its a feature on the Gpu,

Only way to test is to use a 4k monitor, like intended for that card

No it isn't....

He can run 3dMark or Unigen Heaven and find his scores based on people's score with similar components.

Can you lower in-game settings and pass 60 FPS?

 

[plaintuts]

I apologize for being a little sarcastic.

I just can't comprehend using that card for 1080p gameplaY

 

[skit75]

I apologize for being a little sarcastic.

I just can't comprehend using that card for 1080p gameplaY

It is a bit overkill for sure. Screen tearing doesn't bother some people. He will have to experiment and see if it is a big enough deal for him to upgrade his monitor or go back to a 1080p GPU.

As MarkW indicated in his well written post, disabling V-Sync will show off the extra muscle of the Titan at the expense of screen tearing. He might find leaving V-Synce ON is better for gaming until he can upgrade his monitor to a 120Hz+ or even a 1440p display or both.

 

[photonboy]

Crysis 3 and GTA 5
- is VSYNC ON or OFF in the video settings?
- if you're locked to EXACTLY 60FPS with rarely any drops or no drops at all then VSYNC is definitely enabled (or a frame limiter but you didn't do that). Just FYI, you can also turn VSYNC OFF in the game but manually FORCE it in the NVidia Control Panel.

If VSYNC was actually OFF then FRAPS would show a continuously varying frame rate. It never stays the same unless you're basically looking at a wall without moving.

 

[georgek32]

Make sure V-Sync is off in the global driver, not just in the game. The global driver setting can override your in-game settings.

You were right, I did disbale it and it makes a difference. However, it still isnt anywhere close to where it should be. In 1080 and in some cases it even dropps to 40 fps.... If I was playing at 4k that would be understandable. But at 1080 p ?

Any other ideas?

 

[georgek32]

Sorry just followed up on all comments. I suspect my monitor might not be the best and I am planning to buy a 4k monitor. But one thing at a time, as these items tend to be quite pricy. So I believe I get what you are saying, but I dont understand why the performance benchmarks are so much lower than what is out there.

I tried lowering the settings and didnt get any higher. Between 45-60. Now with V-sync deactivated it varies from 40 - 100

 

[photonboy]

Crysis 3 and misleading benchmarks:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2015/03/17/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-x-review/6

Note that you get just over 100FPS average with a Titan X but it's important to note that :

1) No anti-aliasing is being used. C3 has some pretty demanding AA if you crank it up.

- dropping to 1440p gets closer to 60FPS average (1080p to 1440p is often about a 30% hit). Losing about 30% to anti-aliasing seems about right so it doesn't sound unreasonable to get about 60FPS average with everything, including AA to the maximum.

2) Game areas will vary a lot.

3) *My two cents for tweaking:
I suggest you do this:
a) Force on Adaptive VSYNC for C3. (screen tearing can get really bad but in case you drop below 60FPS you don't want stuttering)
- for 144Hz monitor I'd use the "Half Adaptive VSYNC" method and synch to 72FPS

b) Run at 1440p if possible since it helps a lot with anti-aliasing. Even with my GTX680 I'm running 1440p at 60FPS (dropped other quality settings) since I found it visually optimal for me (the AA was just far too distracting and the game looks great even on lower settings)

For 1080p monitors you can adjust the scaling with DSR or whatever it's called in the NVidia Control Panel though you'll need to spend some time learning how to use that optimally.

c) Drop AA and any settings you need to slightly to maintain a mostly solid 60FPS experience (for 60Hz monitors).

(If screen tear isn't annoying to you then ignore most of this and just run with VSYNC OFF)

 

[MarkW]

Crysis 3, and GTV V, are both beasts when it comes to playing them. You said you drop all the way down to 40 FPS. I've seen posts here from people with lower level cards that are getting down into the teens.

People just do not realize the amount of processing that goes on to display a game that almost looks real-life realistic. And yes, even Titan X's in SLI are challenged when doing so.