GTX970 or 290x?

[Narside]

Dear community, i'm asking for your advice. By now i have the following config: Core i5 2550 3,4 GHz, ga-67x-ud3-b3, GF 560 Ti, 8 Gb ram. I want to replace my GPU with either GTX970 or 290x. I read somewhere that 290x will suit more for the systems with low CPU (Mine is not that new). So which card suits my system more for hard gaming?

 

[ak47jar3d]

Gtx 970. Gtx 970 and 290x perform about the same, but the gtx 970 is much more power efficient and easier to cool. Just make sure you have at least a 500w power supply for it.

 

[SonSon1]

Dear community, i'm asking for your advice. By now i have the following config: Core i5 2550 3,4 GHz, ga-67x-ud3-b3, GF 560 Ti, 8 Gb ram. I want to replace my GPU with either GTX970 or 290x. I read somewhere that 290x will suit more for the systems with low CPU (Mine is not that new). So which card suits my system more for hard gaming?

It all depends on what PSU you currently have. The 290x will outperform the gtx970, specially in 1440p and up, but will require somewhat more PSU power than the GTX970, not much, 550-600w will be more than enough if you decide to go with the 290x.

If you have way less than 600w in your PSU then the gtx970 might be a better choice for you and it will still offer plenty performance for 1080p gaming.

 

[sincreator]

GTX970 vs. r9 290x: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1059?vs=1355

They trade blows depending on the game, but the GTX970 uses less power. If the price is the same, I recommend the GTX970. If you can get a r9 290x for $50 or more less I would recommend the r9 290x.

 

[Wisecracker]

1080p -- GTX 970
Above 1080p -- R9 290X

 

[holyrage]

go with the GTX970 it runs quiter

go with either MSI or EVGA SSC

IMO i would go with a card thats less than a year old than the 1 year and 5 monthish? old R9 290X

the nvidia GTX970 will have support for DX 12.1 not sure about R9 290X but all GCN cards have support for DX 12

 

[Narside]

my PSU is about 650 watts and i'm going to run games at 1080p. will there be any new GPUs out there which will be at the same price level but more interesting regarding tech specs? i mean something like r9 380 etc. in q3 as latest

 

[sincreator]

It is rumored right now that the r9 380/x will be rebrands of the r9 290/x, so if this ends up being true it may be better to grab a r9 290/290x now while the prices are low while they try to reduce stock levels. When the r9 380 and 380x releases they could cost even more.

The only fully new GPUs coming from AMD are the r9 390 and 390x. They will probably cost a lot because they are supposed to compete with the GTX980ti and the Titan card. Check this out: http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-radeon-rx-300-cards-reveal-themselves-in-15-3-driver.html

As others have said, if you're only going to game at 1080p the GTX970 is the better option right now. Unless you can get a r9 290x for a fair amount better price.

 

[Woody1999]

GTX 970 is pretty perfect for you. It's the best at 1080p.

Woody

 

[Narside]

thank you all for your answers. I am going to buy MSI variant of GTX 970. In all youtube tests i saw that GTX 970 outperforms 290x in all gams at 1080p for 2-10 fps. What are the reasons peopple buy 290x? i don't think all of them have 1440p or higher monitors.

 

[Wisecracker]

... It is rumored right now that the r9 380/x will be rebrands of the r9 290/x

That's pretty much 100% incorrect.

 

[sincreator]

... It is rumored right now that the r9 380/x will be rebrands of the r9 290/x

That's pretty much 100% incorrect.

That's why it is called a rumor, but I have seen this reported a few times now. If you have any info to add fill me in.

Here is the first rumor I read about the subject: http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-radeon-r300-grenada-is-380xfiji-is-390x-and-bermuda-is-395x2.html

 

[holyrage]

well IF they rebrand them it will be 20nm Hawaii with HBM with crazy clock speeds and less power consumption

however AMD will be shooting themselves in the knee if they do this and i dont think they want to go out of business

no matter how u look at it the AMD R9 380X should smash the GTX980/970 Performance per $

20nm/HBM

 

[Sweeds]

Dear community, i'm asking for your advice. By now i have the following config: Core i5 2550 3,4 GHz, ga-67x-ud3-b3, GF 560 Ti, 8 Gb ram. I want to replace my GPU with either GTX970 or 290x. I read somewhere that 290x will suit more for the systems with low CPU (Mine is not that new). So which card suits my system more for hard gaming?

get the 970 its more powerful and you should pretty much max out any game with it. The whole thing with the 3.5 gigs of vram does not seam to bother my friend because on his build (i5 4790k, 16 gigs ram, gtx 970) he still maxes shadow of morodor with 60+ fps and no stuttering and that game requires 6 gigs of vram

 

[ak47jar3d]

At 4k, the two cards will be within 5% of each other. Gtx 970 supports, hdmi 2.0 which is very important if you have a 4k tv. There isn't much of a reason to get a 290x over 970 to be honest. Unless the pricing is better on 290x or you think 3.5 gb instead of 4 gb of vram on gtx 970 is a big deal, gtx 970 is the easy option here.

 

[Wisecracker]

That's why it is called a rumor, but I have seen this reported a few times now....

My understanding is the 'mid-range' (whatever that turns out to be) will be GCN 1.2 (not an official AMD term) 'Tonga' with new UVD and 4K hardware acceleration -- the 'Hawaii' refresh loses the _90, drops back to the _80s, and gets the Tonga UVD and hardware acceleration.

The new "Volcanic Islands" take the _90 designation (and 'unofficial' GCN 1.3) with HBM and come in 2 flavors. The first stacked variety limited to 4GB (but nearly 2X the bandwidth of TitanX) launches in late Q2. The second wave of HBM uses Hynix Gen2 (like the proposed nVidia Pascal) with double the stacked VRAMs is Q4 or Q1-2016.

AND finally lol my understanding is AMD is doing a type of reverse-Voodoo that leads to the launch of the Carrizo APU at the end of Q2 -- the new discreet *GCN 1.3* have been baked on GlobalFoundries 28nm SHP, will launch next month as a Southern Islands refresh/replacement, and clear out the product stack below $200. Supposedly, AMD took a $58 million write-down at the end of last year to facilitate this transition.

Cut-down versions of the GlobalFoundries' GCN *Southern Island replacements* are the basis for the Carrizo APU graphics engines alongside the Excavator CPU cores (the 'guess' is the Kaveri refresh, Godavari, simply enhances the existing GPU/CPU cores). This is also where the next-gen Radeon mobile discreet comes from, replacing the 'Solar System' chips.

Now, that's Internets rumor mongering

 

[sincreator]

So not so much a rebrand, but a refresh for the r9 290 series then, lol. They will be reborn as the 380/380x with a few tweaks, the same as what they did from the 7970ghz to the r9 280x. So what I was saying before was kinda true then, I guess. Or the rumor suggests it anyways, lol.

 

[holyrage]

the 7970 and R9 280X are the same card EXCEPT FOR THE XTX CHIPS (they have lower TDP) the 7970 consumed 195watts while gaming. amd always overestimates their tdp for same reason

my 7950 @ 1300/1900 V @ 1.22V consuoms less than 180 watts

 

[Narside]

but from all tests that i had seen 290x just had 2-12 fps less than GTX970. So why than should we consider 290x? and what about cpu compatibility? in my case the weakest is CPU and 290x performs better in that case because it takes out some load from CPU and redirects it to GPU, is it correct?