News HaLow Wi-Fi has now been tested at 9.9 miles — new Wi-Fi world record is a near 5X increase over previous best

[Admin]

Morse Micro returns with yet another promising HaLow demonstration, now achieving 9.9 miles range in a rural national park.

HaLow Wi-Fi has now been tested at 9.9 miles — new Wi-Fi world record is a near 5X increase over previous best : Read more

 

[JRStern]

And it can keep your coffee warm all day and on your drive home.

 

[kanewolf]

It is interesting that 900Mhz wireless networking is coming back.

 

[Integr8d]

You can run little LoRa ESP32 nodes for about $20 and they’ll help to build the LoRa mesh network for everyone. I have 2 running in Los Angeles and they pass packets all day.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

This is what IoT devices should be running on, instead of the existing 2.4 GHz / 5.0 GHz / 6.0 GHz bands.

Then you can place your IoT devices as far away or as close as you want on your property.

This would also make for a great "Walkie Talkie" like feature built into modern Smart Phones / Tablets to allow local Direct Video/Audio/Text conferencing / communications over a standardized protocol w/o relying on local Wi-Fi / Cellular networks.

Just direct communication with each other or your low HaLow Router.

 

[brandonjclark]

This is definitely cooler than your typical "Pi-Hole Creator Makes Gadget X!" article.

I LOVE the idea of long-range wifi.

 

[kanewolf]

This is definitely cooler than your typical "Pi-Hole Creator Makes Gadget X!" article.

I LOVE the idea of long-range wifi.

LOW BANDWIDTH, long range. As low as 150K bps. Suitable for some IOT type devices. You aren't watching much 4K YouTube 1/2 mile from your base station. Streaming spotify? Maybe.

 

[Wayne Colony]

Morse Micro returns with yet another promising HaLow demonstration, now achieving 9.9 miles range in a rural national park.

HaLow Wi-Fi has now been tested at 9.9 miles — new Wi-Fi world record is a near 5X increase over previous best : Read more

I remember the WiFi world record as being 124.9 miles from the 2005 DEFCON WiFi shootout. It ended the contest because the mountain they connected from was the farthest line of sight point that could ever be used.

Hackers Annihilate Wi-Fi Record

Contest judge Dave Moore verifies some coordinates with the iFiber-Redwire team's jury-rigged Wi-Fi equipment in the background. The team's setup included a 12-foot-diameter surplus satellite dish — transported in pieces from Ohio, then assembled on Nevada's Mount Potosi — and scaffolding to...

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[das_stig]

At that range, I can connect to home network from work. Should free up a lot of office/home security systems from wifi.

 

[Kondamin]

Might be nice in really remote areas where no one is.
But since it’s so limited in bandwidth doing more than just a bit of sensor readouts is probably all that it would be good for

 

[pf100]

Might be nice in really remote areas where no one is.
But since it’s so limited in bandwidth doing more than just a bit of sensor readouts is probably all that it would be good for

Even 1mbps is usable because I once had to use a 1mbps connection for a few weeks. I had moved into an area 3/4 miles away from a hospital but I had to wait for a cable to be run for internet. I could connect to the hospital's wifi at 1mbps with an external wifi device with a panel antenna. You're not going to be watching netflix with it but you can browse websites.

 

[DS426]

It is interesting that 900Mhz wireless networking is coming back.

Yes it is and not a moment too soon. Wi-Fi performance for rural applications has largely been neglicted by the IEEE.

That said, the antenna design makes the largest difference in terms of Wi-Fi range. Ubiquiti has had wireless bridges and other beaming AP's that have a 10+ km range for some time, some starting for less than a benjamin.

 

[Kondamin]

Even 1mbps is usable because I once had to use a 1mbps connection for a few weeks. I had moved into an area 3/4 miles away from a hospital but I had to wait for a cable to be run for internet. I could connect to the hospital's wifi at 1mbps with an external wifi device with a panel antenna. You're not going to be watching netflix with it but you can browse websites.

For one user doing one thing 1mbps is ok, you can stream some music read some webpages that aren't overburdened by ads and tracing scripts.
For more than 1 user it's inadequate, and since we're talking about a maximum of ~34miles² there will be quite a bunch of things that will be needing that 1mbps.

 

[Kondamin]

Yes it is and not a moment too soon. Wi-Fi performance for rural applications has largely been neglicted by the IEEE.

That said, the antenna design makes the largest difference in terms of Wi-Fi range. Ubiquiti has had wireless bridges and other beaming AP's that have a 10+ km range for some time, some starting for less than a benjamin.

those bridges are in the 60Ghz range, very directional
those low frequencies just don't lend them selves to well for networking

 

[kanewolf]

those bridges are in the 60Ghz range, very directional
those low frequencies just don't lend them selves to well for networking

The long distance AirMax devices are generally 5Ghz, and use proprietary encoding. That is why they HAVE to be used in pairs.

 

[DS426]

The long distance AirMax devices are generally 5Ghz, and use proprietary encoding. That is why they HAVE to be used in pairs.

Yep, I'm thinking more about the 5 GHz devices like NanoStation and AirFiber. Indeed, it also requires the proprietary encoding, therefore being something that builds on to 802.11 rather than being an actual ratified standard.

Anyways, I bring this stuff up because the article doesn't seem to make it clear that they were using devices with omnidirectional antennas, and that then is how these would be game-changers.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

those bridges are in the 60Ghz range, very directional
those low frequencies just don't lend them selves to well for networking

Spoiler: LTT - Linus & His Crew installs 60 GHz wireless link over lake spanning 3 miles.

 

[CaptainBrowncoat]

10 miles was done about a quarter century ago by a film crew in the Australian outback using a giant version of wok-fi as I recall. It's how I learned about the idea of wok-fi.

 

[kanewolf]

10 miles was done about a quarter century ago by a film crew in the Australian outback using a giant version of wok-fi as I recall. It's how I learned about the idea of wok-fi.

But this was done with omni antennas, as pointed out by @DS426 .

 

[danwinson]

For one user doing one thing 1mbps is ok, you can stream some music read some webpages that aren't overburdened by ads and tracing scripts.
For more than 1 user it's inadequate, and since we're talking about a maximum of ~34miles² there will be quite a bunch of things that will be needing that 1mbps.

It's a pretty big deal for IoT too, 1mbps is enough for basic video and firmware updates which you can't do over LoRaWAN or Sigfox.

 

[pf100]

For one user doing one thing 1mbps is ok, you can stream some music read some webpages that aren't overburdened by ads and tracing scripts.
For more than 1 user it's inadequate, and since we're talking about a maximum of ~34miles² there will be quite a bunch of things that will be needing that 1mbps.

I forgot to mention that when I was using the 1mbps connection I was sharing it with a roomate. I don't remember the available throughput but I split it in half. I installed netlimiter on his and my pc and made max throughput on each pc to be half of the available throughput. We used it at the same time a lot and I really couldn't tell any speed difference just browsing sites, but yeah I'm sure if there had been a few more people using it at the same time it would have choked.