Question Is this a GPU issue or CPU or RAM --- what's going on?

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PC Specs
Motherboard: X670E Aorus Pro X
CPU: Ryzen 9950X3D
GPU: 3070 Ti
RAM: 64GB DDR5
PSU: 1300w Gold
Storage:
OS - Silicon Power 1TB - NVMe M.2 PCIe Gen3x4
Games - Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 Gaming SSD
Recording/Editing - Crucial P3 Plus 4TB PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD
OS SOURCE

Games affected (so far): Dead by Daylight, Warframe, Fortnite, Minecraft, PEAK

video for reference

i have been having this odd issue recently ever since installing a new OS of W11 and getting the 9950x3d. the freezing is unbearable and the only way to "stop" the freezing is by pressing the Windows key. It happens on every game i play. yes, i have the balanced profile selected, as well as setting CPU affinity to use CCD0 on process lasso for games.

my drivers are up to date and have been installed from the NVIDIA app. i usually do NVCleanstall, but i think i was having the same issues even with that.

BIOS is latest. drivers are latest. help.

EDIT: I forgot to mention about the 2nd clip in the reference video. the only time the weird "drawing" issue happens is when i have hardware acceleration enabled in either Discord or my browser.
 
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Disk drives: make, model, capacity, how full?

Source for new Windows 11 OS?

Noted "every game" - however, listing the games may prove helpful.

Look in Reliability History/Monitor and Event Viewer. Either one or both tools may be capturing some error code, warning, or even an informational event just before or at the time of the freezes.

Overall, I would suspect some process running in the background that gets interrupted or stopped when the Windows key is pressed. The Windows key alone opens a listing of installed applications.

Does that window also open when WIN is pressed to "unfreeze" the system?
 
Did you clean install Windows 11, or upgrade over a previous install? If an upgrade, then doing a clean install is probably for the best. Also, if you had any form of previous OC, remove it, as the old OC may not be viable on the new OS.
 
In W11 together with GameBar and newest AMD chipset drivers they manage it for many games to set the CPU affinity to CCD0 ( with the 3d-cache). You wrote, that you use Process Lasso to assign the 3d-cache-ccd. Might be, that there is a kind of collision between Gamebar and process-lasso? do you have GameBar active, too?

Ich have W10, and the above described mechanism does not work in W10. Therefore I only use process lasso, which works quite well.

If using only AMD-chipset-driver and GameBar, there is a BIOS-setting ( Auto-driver-frequency-cache), which should be set to driver.
But I am not sure, depends on MB-vendor, perhaps auto would work, too.

On my Asus-MB:

advanced CBS/SMU Common options/CPPC Dynamic Preferred Cores
 
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Disk drives: make, model, capacity, how full?

Source for new Windows 11 OS?

Noted "every game" - however, listing the games may prove helpful.

Look in Reliability History/Monitor and Event Viewer. Either one or both tools may be capturing some error code, warning, or even an informational event just before or at the time of the freezes.

Overall, I would suspect some process running in the background that gets interrupted or stopped when the Windows key is pressed. The Windows key alone opens a listing of installed applications.

Does that window also open when WIN is pressed to "unfreeze" the system?
I've updated drives, OS source, and games.

Reliability monitor shows GameManagerService3.exe "stopped working", related to Razer Synapse. However, it happened at 10AM and my issue occurred at 10PM.

Event viewer under System shows a DNS Clients Events warning about "t-s2-ring.msedge.net" that timed out around the time I recorded the DBD freezing. There's also a couple FilterManager warnings about Easy Anti Cheat not being able to support bypass IO.

Yes, pressing the windows key opens the start menu, which immediately stops the freezing.
 
Did you clean install Windows 11, or upgrade over a previous install? If an upgrade, then doing a clean install is probably for the best. Also, if you had any form of previous OC, remove it, as the old OC may not be viable on the new OS.
It was a clean install of W11. I formatted every drive as well before continuing with the install.
 
In W11 together with GameBar and newest AMD chipset drivers they manage it for many games to set the CPU affinity to CCD0 ( with the 3d-cache). You wrote, that you use Process Lasso to assign the 3d-cache-ccd. Might be, that there is a kind of collision between Gamebar and process-lasso? do you have GameBar active, too?

Ich have W10, and the above described mechanism does not work in W10. Therefore I only use process lasso, which works quite well.

If using only AMD-chipset-driver and GameBar, there is a BIOS-setting ( Auto-driver-frequency-cache), which should be set to driver.
But I am not sure, depends on MB-vendor, perhaps auto would work, too.

On my Asus-MB:

advanced CBS/SMU Common options/CPPC Dynamic Preferred Cores
I have both GameBar and Process Lasso just because games like Dead By Daylight or Fortnite with anti-cheat doesn't correctly set the affinity. So I have to use CPU sets for those games in Process Lasso.
 
Appears to be quite a bit going on.

I am going to add the suggestion to download Process Explorer (Microsoft, free).

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/process-explorer

It will take some time and effort to get a sense of it all. Filtering and sorting may be necessary.

However, the main objective is to discover what processes run, stop running, or change in some manner with respect to the overall system performance. And more specifically can be tied to the freeze-ups.

The beginning step being to disable as many game related processes as possible. Plus other tasks/processes that are running in the background but not truly being used. Likely launched during boot (Task Manager > Startup or triggered later via Task Scheduler).

Determine first if the freezes stop. If so, then you can methodically begin adding those game related processes etc. back. One by one allowing time between each addition.

Watch for the freezing to return and all the while keeping an eye on the processes being run.

Change only one thing at a time, observe carefully, make notes, and do not immediatly react without definitive reasons to do so.

When you can make the freezing start and stop in some manner then you may have found the culprit(s).

Keep in mind that there may be more than one component - some combination causes the freeze-ups.

What I would do is watch Process Explorer, force (if possible) a freeze to see process changes.

Then, following on, press the WIN key, unfreeze the system, and again look at the process changes.
 
PC Specs
Motherboard: X670E Aorus Pro X
CPU: Ryzen 9950X3D
GPU: 3070 Ti
RAM: 64GB DDR5
PSU: 1300w Gold
Storage:
OS - Silicon Power 1TB - NVMe M.2 PCIe Gen3x4
Games - Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 Gaming SSD
Recording/Editing - Crucial P3 Plus 4TB PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD
OS SOURCE

Games affected (so far): Dead by Daylight, Warframe, Fortnite, Minecraft, PEAK

video for reference

i have been having this odd issue recently ever since installing a new OS of W11 and getting the 9950x3d. the freezing is unbearable and the only way to "stop" the freezing is by pressing the Windows key. It happens on every game i play. yes, i have the balanced profile selected, as well as setting CPU affinity to use CCD0 on process lasso for games.

my drivers are up to date and have been installed from the NVIDIA app. i usually do NVCleanstall, but i think i was having the same issues even with that.

BIOS is latest. drivers are latest. help.

EDIT: I forgot to mention about the 2nd clip in the reference video. the only time the weird "drawing" issue happens is when i have hardware acceleration enabled in either Discord or my browser.

Try turning of GPU acceleration of under graphics in display settings it can play havoc on some 3000 series gpus and 2000 series it's windows own version I found it doesn't play nice with 2000 and 3000 series

Also is your ram mixed or was it bought as one kit
 
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