Happiest people in the world

[Gulli]

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=video&cd=1&ved=0CDIQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DhV-05TLiiLU&ei=yaUZTt3lGOuLsAKN6sHCBw&usg=AFQjCNFdaMKBsQ5vyd05kPXgHSKI10MNjg

I dont see your point here

That's BS: all representatives get a chance to read bills before they vote on them, whether or not they do that is their own choice. Of course Nanci Pelosi wasn't addressing congress in that clip (but that's just an irrelevant "detail" to Faux News, who didn't even bother to at least photoshop the background to make it look like she was even in the Capitol). And from the rest of her speech (not the 10 second sound bite, corresponding nicely to Faux News viewer's attention span) it is clear she is talking about the effects of the bill on average Joe, not the text of the bill.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

I believe the nonchalance, exuberance and total disregard to her office reflects quite well what we got, what she exemplifies and why again, this climate has to change

 

[Gulli]

I believe the nonchalance, exuberance and total disregard to her office reflects quite well what we got, what she exemplifies and why again, this climate has to change

But you do admit Faux News was BS'ing about her?

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Not sure of whom on fox youre refering to
Some there arent news types, theyre a spin on the conservative side, but not all are, which is a far cry from any other media source, where most "on the other side" or in the middle,have already left and are working for fox.

 

[Gulli]

There is no talking to this guy jaydee. The truth doesn't matter to him. If it doesn't advance his agenda then it is wrong, even if it is factually right.

BS: that video of Nancy Pelosi was falsely labelled by Faux News as being a speech before congress, this has been proven, you know, as in a fact. ext thing you'll be calling gravity a socialist conspiracy.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Outside the closed-door Democratic Caucus meeting, he brushed aside concerns that Democrats cannot pass a bill without the votes of Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) and other anti-abortion members.


“We have not discussed a third way,” Hoyer told reporters. “I’ve talked to Mr. Stupak, but I made it clear I wasn’t negotiating. It is clear that that matter cannot be dealt with per se in the reconciliation bill. We’ll have to deal with it pretty much as it is at this point in time.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34335.html

"You’ve heard about the controversies within the bill, the process about the bill, one or the other. But I don’t know if you have heard that it is legislation for the future, not just about health care for America, but about a healthier America, where preventive care is not something that you have to pay a deductible for or out of pocket. Prevention, prevention, prevention—it’s about diet, not diabetes. It’s going to be very, very exciting.
But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy."
Again, like a kid in a candy shop, dangerous for us, regardless if it were much much better than it is

 

[anwaypasible]

when you rescue people after a disaster you don't go around asking people about their wealth, now do you?

i think when you go around helping people after a disaster their wealth of personality shows itself, either by the words they say.. or their vital signs.

 

[anwaypasible]

There is no talking to this guy jaydee. The truth doesn't matter to him. If it doesn't advance his agenda then it is wrong, even if it is factually right.

the above sentence just goes to show how facts are not always the truth.
to say, if the truth is he deserves something other than what he has been given.. regardless of those 'other' things being fact.. it isnt doing him a bit of good.
and that is what happens when people are starved.
being starved can come from a whole list of things.
to say one was abused is to say they were starved from better treatment.
to say one was neglected is to say they were starved from focus.
the list goes on.

 

[mrface]

Apparently so pos(t)ers in here dont realize that the "rich" pay 80% of all taxes already...

thats an interesting fact...


edit: for clarity:
Top 1% pay 37% of all tax
Top 20% pay 88% of all tax
Top 50% pay 97% of all tax

 

[Reynod]

You are entitled to your opinion.

You are not entitled to make up ass-facts, spew fear, and regurgitate crap coupled with xenophobic non-sequiturs.

Just a little heads up for yah, chum -- the cumulative GDP of the United States of America over the next 75-80 years will exceed 3,000 trillion dollars, and while challenges exist, here is one you didn't see coming:

Projected Medicare costs over 75 years are about 25 percent lower because of provisions in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, or what 'you guys' love to call, Obama Care.

Just think how better Medicare would look if George Bush and the Republican Congress had provided ANY funding for the Part D Big Pharma Tax Money Give-A-Way which currently sodomizes taxpayers to the tune of $60-$70 billion/yr.

I liked your first two sentences to much I wanted to read them in my post ... heh heh.

 

[unionpride]

we can solve all our money problems just cutting the defense budget alone. we spend what 23%gdp on defense when our worst enemy is fought with intelligence and a dozen navy seals? why are we still preparing to fight aliens when we dont even have a shuttle program?

i just think we keep our intelligence communities strong and our research well funded, but the actual production of force in the droves that we do it just isnt necessary.

 

[Reynod]

Its clear I should be in charge ... here are the things I would do:

1. Make the gun licenses $500 per year per waapon - tax to the govt;
2. Institute a decent medicare system indexed to income (2% should do it);
3. Revitalise NASA and increase research grants / funding the Unis, and increase international student revenue to compensate;
4. Reexamine tiered tax brackets and increase corporate tax - but give large companies other incentives to employ more workers;
5. Insitite a decent superannuation system;
6. Offer a decent first home buyer's incentive to build;
7. Put a BCITF / CTF system in place for training in construction / engineering;
8. Offer critical skills list training at subsidised rates (cheaper loans for doctors / nurses in trg for instance);
9. Mandate all state and federal agencies to keep under budget ... law.
10. Clean out state debt through federal funds;
11. Offer a decent solar rebate for grid connect households / solar water / grey water etc.
12. Start a large federal funded green project on power - wind turbines / wave generators / solar heat farms in deserts ...
13. Improve nuclear safety but invest in more nuclear power with fed regulation to include more representation from the community.
13. Reduce the number of political positions.
14. Engage all armed forces in any front line natural disaster as a given.
15. Substantially increase research into food production in the US - farmers are to be placed on the highest platform in terms of support for sustainable production ... areas that were overfarmed to be revitalised ... GM modifid food to be rigourously examined;
16. Unemployment benefits to be offset by community work programs (farmland revitalisation as an example but each according to their abilities) for those unable to gain work after 6 mths.
17. Wind back overseas deployment in warzones not considered a priority for US;
18. Reexamine all overseas aid programs and reduce;
19. tired now ... will add more.

heh heh ...
17.

 

[Reynod]

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