Hard drive tempature at 120 degrees F

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What you do, if it can be done, is put the fan on the inside and a grill on the outside. Place rubber groomets between the fan and where it contacts the case material so that they will act as vibration dampers and help keep the fan quiter. Having a grill on the outside will protect it.

That HDD cooler is actually pretty nice. I had never seen that particular model before but the thing I like the most about it is that is has a heatsink/fan combo and it would probably help your tremendously. It will blow the hot air inside the case though so it is paramount that you have good air circulation and having a blowhole/fanmount at the top would really help here.
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Great thank you for the advice, I appreciate it, the only thing I don't like about that thing is that it's expensive and well the temp readout is kind of unnecessary and it is white/baige in color which I have a black case. If it was black then I would be more tempted. Yeah im picky.

that seems like some pretty serious work taking apart my computer, buying a dremel tool cutting out the hole and redoing it all. but we will see how board i am tomorrow haha.

I just recently bought the new hardware listed, like the motherboard and video card etc. so ive been spending alot of time tweaking and playing with my computer in the hardware sense of the word. I have been spending very little time actually using it haha, I got a few minute of hitman blood money and it worked fabulously, much better improvement from my x800xl that I used when the demo first came out. Maxed out settings at 1600x1200 resolution with no jerkyness, the old video card could barely handle it at 1280x1024.
 
Take a look at these hard drive coolers. I found a few that were black.

silverstone $22.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835220007


AOC Evercool $24.99
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1952001&CatId=495


Cooldrive 6 $39.99
http://www.nwca.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=products.showDetail&header=Keyword%20Search&subheader=Results&productID=5059&flag=Standalone
(I use this one for one drive. A bit pricey but feature rich and excellent cooler results. I disconnected some of the cables that came with it but it has temp sensors for up to 4 probes and can acts as a fan controller for up to 4 fans. It also has internal software for these features and can connect to an internal usb port for them but I disconnected the usb cable and the fan controllers and just used the additional temp sensors for other parts of my computer)
 
What you do, if it can be done, is put the fan on the inside and a grill on the outside. Place rubber groomets between the fan and where it contacts the case material so that they will act as vibration dampers and help keep the fan quiter. Having a grill on the outside will protect it.

That HDD cooler is actually pretty nice. I had never seen that particular model before but the thing I like the most about it is that is has a heatsink/fan combo and it would probably help your tremendously. It will blow the hot air inside the case though so it is paramount that you have good air circulation and having a blowhole/fanmount at the top would really help here.
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I read this hard drive cooler is insanely loud. so I don't plan on getting it. What I am going to do however is get a few more fans and get a standard hard drive coller that you mount under neath the drive that has a heat sink on it as well for about 15 dollars from circuit city, Also get some fans that are alittle less noisy then run them at full speed, add a fan to the side of my case where there is a mount and grill for it aimed at the processor, ill cut the grill out of that as well. I will look into doing the blow hole on top after I see where im at when those things are done.

Thanks for all your help guys its much appreciated.
 
Take a look at these hard drive coolers. I found a few that were black.

silverstone $22.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835220007


AOC Evercool $24.99
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1952001&CatId=495


Cooldrive 6 $39.99
http://www.nwca.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=products.showDetail&header=Keyword%20Search&subheader=Results&productID=5059&flag=Standalone
(I use this one for one drive. A bit pricey but feature rich and excellent cooler results. I disconnected some of the cables that came with it but it has temp sensors for up to 4 probes and can acts as a fan controller for up to 4 fans. It also has internal software for these features and can connect to an internal usb port for them but I disconnected the usb cable and the fan controllers and just used the additional temp sensors for other parts of my computer)
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Those are very cool I especially like number 1. But I really don't want to buy something like this online espeically if I don't like it. It doesn't cost anything to return something to a local store, and if I don't like this here then I have to ship it back which costs money and then, wait for a return.

Thank you for the suggestions!
 
Well here is where im at, I created a blow hole in the top of my case and attached a fan, I also installed a fan in the door blowing in towards the processor. So I now have a total of 4 case fans. I also replaced my stock hsf with a antec cpu that is here: http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=77099#

So I added 2 antec tri cool dual barings fans. I wasn'ta ble to get a hard drive cooler, as circuit city here as well as best buy did not have them. So I will have to take a trip to comp usa which is about 25 miles away from here.

My case temps are as follows now at idle with cool and quiet enabled:
mb probe, 98 degrees f
cpu at idle, 96 degrees
temp 3, I dont know what that is but its 81 degrees
Hard drive is still 113 degrees f at idle.
gpu: 44 degrees c

Temps at full load after 1 hour:
cpu 125 degree f
mb 102 degrees f
hard drive 118 degrees f


So yeah it did make a difference not a huge significant one, previously I was at idle:
idle cpu 100 degrees f
mb idle 100 degrees
gpu 47 degrees c
Hard drive around 107

full load:
cpu 131 degrees f
mb 110 degrees f
hard drive 118 f

The reason my hard drive temp went up is because it is now suspended in rubber bands, so there is no way for the hard drive to tranasfer heat to anything, it is however next tot he fan sucking out the hot air up, however I don't think the hard drive in the 5 1/2 inch bay is in the path of the airflow.

I will get a hard drive cooler tomorrow, and see what kind of results that brings in.

It has been a fun journy so far, the best thing is my case is still fairly quiet. Lets see where we end up.

By the way, the whole rubber band hard drive noise reducing method works beutifully. If anyone is interested in doing it, take my word its nice and not to mention cheap!! I was tierd of finding all these gimicks that say they make your computer quiet and reduce hard drie noise. So here is the solution. Check out the post under here on rubber band hard drive quieting
 
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take the hard drive off those rubber bands

the only reason that rubber bands maintain their elasticity is because of the ambient moisture in the air. If they are exposed to constant heat they will dry out and one day you will hear a "thud" when the drive drops and if it falls on other components..

It's a novel idea yes, and MaximumPC did an article on that very thing. But, the subsequent issue listed a reader letter that brought up the drying out of the rubber bands.

Be careful with that.....
 
Yeah I have thought about that, I plan on checking on them on a regular basis, like once a week and replace them every so often.

A bag of rubber bands and replacing them is worth it, because this drive is very loud, when reading and writing this works like a charm and is cheap and easy!

Thanks for the concern though and your advice I appreciate it! I don't remember seeing the letter, which issue was it that had the letter about the drying out of the rubber bands, what did it say exactly and what was mpc response to it if youd on't mind telling me?
 
OH ok I haven't gotten the augest issue yet, im on the cheap third party plan so I get it after every else has read it. NIce huh. Well thanks for the info.

So what did maximum pc say regarding it if you dont mind telling me, you can say briefly what it was, I would appreciate it!

Thanks
 
they said that if you have high quality rubber bands that it shouldn't be an issue.

You'll be getting a HDD cooler soon enough though so it won't be an issue
 
I have a seagate 7200.8 250gb hard drive. It runs great, and is like a hot plate. In fact it's usually running as hot as my processor does at full load at 120 degrees f.

I know the thermal limit for seagate drives is 140 f. Does anyone know if running it at even 120 is bad? Should I get a cooler for it? also does anyone know whath appends when a drive does over heat?

I do have cooling in my system a fan in front, read and a antec truepower psu with the big fan.

Also any idea what the normal/average running temp is for this drive? Like I said it's the hottest thing in my case at idle, the ambient temp in the case is around 100-110 degrees f. Air temp outsid the case is 75-80 degrees f.

Any help on the topic would be great! Thanks.
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AH, ER. If I may .Would it not be better to just get a small air conditioner..
Just a small thought.At 80F that's what I'd do...:)
 
Well lets just say my house is already a/c'd its 105 outside today and inside its 77 degrees f. It costs way too much money to keep our house a/c'd down to 72 degrees. LIke several hundred dollars over a few months of summer. So not worth it, ill buy afew extra fans and a hard drive cooler for 50 dollars.

That would be a great idea though if my house wasn't already airconditioned haha.

Thanks for the post on the subject.
 
Actually the funny thing, opening the case doesn't really makea difference. But like I said in all the posts ive made some huge moidifcations in the cooling in my rig there is a difference, but i i would say its better now then having the case open. Besides I don't think leaving the case open would be a good idea, I have a 2 year old that owuld just love to rip out some wires and hand me a fan blade.

Good idea but I needed a solution that is more long term.
 
Well here is the result after the hard drive cooler, my hard drive does not go above ambient temp in my case which is 100 degrees.

I got the comp usa branded hard drive cooler, it is a yellow/brass color. I also bougth a 92mm fan for the rear, that thing is quiet and pushes a heck of a lot of air, its pretty incredible. So I know have 4 fans tota, a 92mm fan in the rear, 80mm on the door blowing at the processor hsf. A blow hole 80mm at the top of the case between the psu and cd rom mount assembly. and one in the front. The hard drive cooler, fits on the bottom of the drive and there are two fans, one blowing and one sucking the air. They run at 4 thousand rpm's and well that was a little bit too loud a it sounded like a turbine/cyclone was running in my case. I plugged it into my antec 2.0 "fan only" headers as they run at lower voltage and that helped bring them to silent mode. It still runs very well as my hard drive under full load doesn't go passed 100 degrees, so a 20 degree impovement was worth it I would say.

So here are my final temps after a 100 dollar investment in cooling including fans, dremel kit new cpu cooler etc.

While using cpu burn in v 1.01 after 20 mins, my temps are as follows:

cpu 126f while at full load
hd 100 degree f at full load
motherboard at full load 98 degrees
geforce 7900 gt 44 degrees
 
it looks like you got the results you wanted - especially with the hdd. All the resulting temps are within decent levels.

Now, when you are ready, you can graduate to water cooling!!
 
Yeah I thought about that, i could of gotten a rig that cools the video card and cpu for about a 100 dollars. then just have that big 92mm fan pushing air out

Although sad to say the loud fan in my computer is the new cpu cool, I think ill bring that back. It doesn't do much and I thinkt he cooling levels were mainly the air circulation improvement. Plus it was 30 bucks and the fan blades broke when i touched it, so I am using the fan from the stock cpu cooler amd branded fan. It is a little bit quieter with it. My replacement north bridge fan is also pretty loud I think I am going to replace it with one of those tall fanless heat sinks.

Thanks for your help guys.
 
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