Question Have to take out put in ram sticks to get past boot sometimes, PC running more slowly

[andrepartthree]

This is kind of related to my thread here

https://forums.tomshardware.com/thr...ing-ram-to-3200-speeds.3798903/#post-22946469

But my hardware setup on my daughter's computer has changed since then and is now

- G.Skill RipJaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin SDRAM PC4-25600 DDR4 3200 CL16-18-18-38 1.35V Dual Channel DesktopMemory Model F4-3200C16D-16GVKB
(used to be four sticks of this ram each at 8 GB see below)

- samsung 970 evo plus m2 drive used as C/boot drive

- ASUS TUF GAMING B450M-PLUS II AM4 AMD B450 SATA6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

- AMD Ryzen 3 3300X Processor W/Wraith Stealth Cooler - 100-100000159BOX (stock "wraith" cooler)

- EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti SC GAMING, 4GB GDDR5, DX12
OSD Support (PXOC) Graphics Card 04G-P4-6253-KR

- three SSD drives (2.5 form factor), one Western Digital Black "Performance" drive, one crucial MX500 1TB ssd drive, one crucial MX500 , 500 GB ssd drive

- Cooler Master MasterWatt 750 Watt Semi-fanless Modular Power Supply, 80 PlusBronze Certified

- six 120 mm case fans

Upgraded the desktop PC from Windows 10 to Windows 11 and at first all seemed to be going well.. even solved the PC not being able to wake up from hibernate/sleep mode it was experiencing at the time

I did notice I periodically had to remove the second set of G.Skill ripjaws set of ram (had four sticks of 8 GB ram in there for 32 GB total) and plug them back in when the PC would get "stuck" at the Asus bios splash screen and wouldn't go past that to boot into Windows or even let me hit the delete key to get into BIOS

Eventually the PC stopped responding at all when the secondary ram sticks (in the 1st and 3rd ram slot openings in the motherboard) were in there, took them out and left the PC back at 16 GB of ram , ram sticks in the 2nd and 4th ram slot in the motherboard like the motherboard manual says you should do, thought that solved the problem

Noticed after that Windows would take a very long time to boot up (as opposed to the lightning fast boot up when there was 16 GB of ram ) despite the samsung 970 evo plus being the new Windows C boot drive (made it the boot drive when I upgraded PC to Windows 11 I don't know if that's the problem?) .. PC then started randomly rebooting by itself .. I see a lot error 41 events in event viewer and a lot of event error 18 WHEA logger "a fatal hardware error has occurred reported by component processor core, error source machine check exception, error source cache hierarchy error, processor APIC ID 0" events .. I pray it's not the CPU going bad.

Did an in-place upgrade of Windows 11 after sfc/scannow said it repaired some corrupted files (using the Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth command didn't work after Dism reported that there were "repairable" things with Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth command and slow Windows problems continued to be an issue ) .. but I notice now that the PC is having a very hard time turning on, had to unplug and replug the power supply cable to get it up and running.

I am sincerely hoping it's not a motherboard or a power supply issue but I was wondering if anyone could venture some opinions as to whether or not it could be an issue (looked up my power supply turns out it's a "C" class power supply not sure if that's the problem?) .. I do hope I didn't damage the ram slots on the motherboard taking the ram sticks in and out so often , when I look at the ram slots in the motherboard or the ram sticks themselves I don't see any apparent damage but of course that's no guarantee.

I did order a new set of 32 GB ram, each 16 GB , here

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RW6Z692?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

Corsair VENGEANCE LPX DDR4 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 3200MHz CL16 Intel XMP 2.0 Computer Memory - Black (CMK32GX4M2E3200C16)

Which appears to work just fine on the "big brother" Asus TUF Gaming B550M and Asus TUF Gaming B550 (not micro, full sized) motherboards I have on the other two desktop PC's.

As far as the ram being on the approved ram list for the motherboard as listed by Asus .. I am wondering if that's the problem.. for example if you look at this

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/184/1536111590/F4-3200C16D-8GVKB

you'll see it's a "Ripjaws Series V DDR 4 model" , two sticks of 4 GB ram for 8 GB total, which is on the approved list of ram per the motherboard manufacturer and the sticker on it looks very similar to the ram I've got in the PC right now

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/184/1536111590/F4-3200C16D-8GVKB

two sticks of 8 GB ram for 16 GB total , also Ripjaw Series V DD$ 4 model .. so you would think it would work but.. maybe that's the problem?

to throw another example at you, on the Asus B550 motherboards I mentioned the manufacturer calls for this model number

CMK32GX4M2B3000C15

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/mem...00mhz-c15-memory-kit-black-cmk32gx4m2b3000c15

which is an insane $225 for two 16 GB sticks of ram, yet the model I bought

CMK32GX4M2E3200C16

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/mem...00mhz-c16-memory-kit-black-cmk32gx4m2e3200c16

works without any problem on the Asus B550 motherboards.

So hopefully replacing the ram sticks with the above linked corsair vengeance memory sticks (they should arrive this Sunday Dec 31st says amazon) will work but.. I was wondering if anybody had any thoughts?

As always thanks so much to anyone who reads this and responds

 

[andrepartthree]

oh my gosh.. further update, while running sfc /verifyonly gives a "Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations" result after the in place Windows 11 upgrade (reinstall windows 11), running "Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth" is STILL showing a "the component store is repairable, the operation completed successfully" error message.. running Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth results in it being stuck at 62.3 percent for hours as others have reported online as an issue (just hangs there and doesn't move forward)

 

[XxDarkMario20xX]

If you have to take ram out in order to boot then something is wrong there and having two sets off ram off the same brand and spec is 50 and 50 chance they will work toghther and not best idea to mix ram sets.

 

[logainofhades]

Back up everything you need to keep, and do a fresh install of Windows 11.

 

[andrepartthree]

thanks for your replies guys .. darn I was hoping I wouldn't need to do a fresh install of Win 11 and that the in place install would work 🙁 but I had a feeling in the back of my mind that it might be necessary .. do you guys think I should wait, plug in the new sticks of corsair ram when they arrive and see if that solves the problem or just do the fresh install anyways ? And would it be better to wait until the new sticks of ram (corsair) come, plug them in and then do the Win 11 install such that Win 11 "sees" the new sticks of ram? Or it doesn't matter?

EDIT AND UPDATE .. apologies, I will do the clean install no matter what .. if the moderator of the thread says "do a clean install" then you do a clean install .. my apologies, I'm feeling punch drunk and exhausted after over 16 hours struggling helplessly with this issue trying to resolve it on my own (that's my first approach before bothering you guys ) but if the in place upgrade didn't solve the component store problem it looks like I've got no choice and maybe it will solve other issues.. I am wondering though if it's best to stick the new corsair ram sticks in when they come on Sunday and then do the clean install ?

My daughter is careful to keep all her files on a different hard drive (not the C windows drive a different one) so backing up isn't too much of a problem although I will make her do a backup of the backup .. put important files onto the other hard drive location and the usb thumb drive (none of which are the C / Windows drive) ..

Also my apologies ! I forgot to mention in the original post I ran memtest86 , four passes, on the two 8 GB sticks of G.skills ram that had worked properly in the past (the original two sticks of ram that was in there before I added the additional two sticks) and memtest86 gave it a "pass" result. .. ran Windows Memory Diagnostic (though I've heard that only tests the first 4 GB of ram) which also gave it a pass grade. Still I wonder if the motherboard just doesn't "like" the gskill ram for some reason or if it's defective after all ( I could be wrong I'm no expert .. but have done hours of painful exhausting research banging my head against this brick wall and saw some comments by others who don't seem to feel memtest86 always gives accurate results let alone Windows Memory Diagnostic)