Question Having graphical issues but don't seem to be GPU related

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Hi, have been having issues recently to the point games are unplayable, even old ones and even drop down menus in firefox or steam library are starting to tear. Have a 4070ti and 144hz monitor. Have updated driver, gone through every combination of vsync and refresh rates. Have changed monitors, different cables and happens on both screens. Have swapped out GPU and tried different slot no the motherboard and still the same issues

Have also tried taking out one stick of RAM and trying them one at a time and no difference. Reformatted HDD too. Only thing I'm not really able to test is mobo (MSI x570 tomahawk) or cpu (Ryzen 7 5800X)

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[boju]

That seems to me like graphical glitches / artifacts rather than tearing.

I suggest downloading DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) and run the program in safe mode and uninstall graphics driver. It's easy to use. Then install the latest Geforce driver again.

If this problem still happens try a different / older Geforce driver via the manual driver search option on their site.

 

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That seems to me like graphical glitches / artifacts rather than tearing.

I suggest downloading DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) and run the program in safe mode and uninstall graphics driver. It's easy to use. Then install the latest Geforce driver again.

If this problem still happens try a different / older Geforce driver via the manual driver search option on their site.

Thanks.
Tried both but no luck. If anything was worse with no driver and now older one - getting it on webpages now too when I wasn't before

 

[boju]

Hmm ok. It could be that the graphics card may be failing or starting to. What's your power supply brand and model?

Could try underclocking the card a little.

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Tried this already and didn't fix. Have used two different cards 1080ti and 4070ti and same issues with both. Have tried different mobo slot as well

850W corsair PSU

 

[boju]

Spare drive to test fresh Windows install on?

No, you tried that already. Not sure man. I doubt it's the monitor or cables but maybe try your tv.

 

[boju]

What model is that Corsair psu and how old? And how many pcie cables you're using to power the card?

 

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Corsair HX850 PSU, not exactly sure how old though couldn't find the email receipt - maybe 6 years or so? Last big upgrade was 3 years ago but don't think I replaced it then.

Using two pcie8 - the 4070 has an adapter for 16pin, and the 1080 just straight in. Tried using different pcie cables too

 

[thestryker]

Even though the 1080 Ti is already a PCIe 3.0 device have you tried manually setting the motherboard to run PCIe 3.0?

Seems like you've done a pretty thorough job of troubleshooting already so beyond that motherboard/power supply are really all that's left that I can think of.

 

[35below0]

Check for malware. Any unusual processes going on? Maybe a cryptominer is hogging resources.

Are there a lot of HDD/SSD writes or reads? Is memory use abnormal?

Inspect with Task Manager. If you don't have any anti-malware i recommend Malwarebytes version 3.8.3 because newer ones are a b*** to uninstall.

It's unlikely to be the PSU, but you could test with a spare. I don't think it is because web browsing should not strain the GPU enough for power delivery problems. And you've tried two...

Does the problem occur anytime? Or does it take some time after a restart?
Has this been going on for a long time? Getting worse?

 

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Check for malware. Any unusual processes going on? Maybe a cryptominer is hogging resources.

Are there a lot of HDD/SSD writes or reads? Is memory use abnormal?

Inspect with Task Manager. If you don't have any anti-malware i recommend Malwarebytes version 3.8.3 because newer ones are a b*** to uninstall.

It's unlikely to be the PSU, but you could test with a spare. I don't think it is because web browsing should not strain the GPU enough for power delivery problems. And you've tried two...

Does the problem occur anytime? Or does it take some time after a restart?
Has this been going on for a long time? Getting worse?

I thought of malware too...Have bitdefender and haven't picked up anything. Did a fresh windows install on main drive and tried unplugging my other drives so think that's unlikely. Nothing abnormal on task manager and ssd is like constantly at 0% usage. Will still checkout malwarebytes though.

Don't have a spare psu unfortunately, have used all the spare pieces I have but nothing changed.

It happens immediately after restart.

I noticed some issues with one or two games a while ago - started up fallout 4 for the first time in years and it was really jumpy but put that down to the game cause everything else was fine. I noticed some flickering on LoL near the shop but the rest of the game was fine.

Once I started noticing flickering and glitches in the steam library most games got worse. Then it started happening in browsers and everything is completely unplayable.

So I guess gradually, there was a few oddities over a two week period (I wasn't using PC much cause of work) to getting worse each day over the last 4-5 days

 

[boju]

Hows your cooling? Is there enough air flow through the case?

Maybe open case side panel and see if directing a fan towards motherboard does something.

 

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Cooling generally pretty good and haven't been stressing it lately. GPU sitting at 40c and CPU 45c. Opening side panel dropped a couple degrees but nothing significant

 

[boju]

Hmm wouldn't mind you try directing fan toward motherboard, for vrm / northbridge situation. Probably won't change a thing but at this stage just curious.

 

[boju]

Have you tried tv yet?

 

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Not TV but three different monitors, DP and HDMI and different sets of cords for each as well

 

[boju]

I doubt it's display/ vga cable then, it's something internal.

 

[boju]

Try the fan idea, then probably pc shop to try other things otherwise couldn't because they'd have spare parts to try.

 

[sitehostplus]

To know for sure if you have a virus or no, I would get a clean machine and use that to download what is called a 'rescue disk' to either cd-rom or thumb drive. Then boot off of that onto the suspected machine and check that way.

More than likely culprit is the power supply. Try a new one and see what happens.

 

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Thanks for all your help, time, and suggestions.

Was able to try a new power supply today and picked up some cheap ram. Neither worked. Got a spare hard drive as well with clean windows install - removed all my drives and just had that one in and same issue. Did notice that browser wasn't having issues but steam app and games were just as bad as usual.

Guessing that means I just need to replace cpu/mobo cause that's all I haven't tried yet and it's pretty much a whole new system at that point

 

[Andy that has problems]

Is it possible that you could send some screenshots of hwinfo or some sort?

Something mysterious is definitely going on here.

 

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Is it possible that you could send some screenshots of hwinfo or some sort?

Something mysterious is definitely going on here.

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just this or something specific?

 

[Andy that has problems]

Show the censor which should be at the upper left corner when you open up hwinfo.

 

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[Andy that has problems]

Looks good enough. Nothing that you should worry about there. It's really hard to know exactly what causes this right now since you've tried most things. Could you try connecting your pc to a different outlet to test? See if that fixes or eliminate this issue. If you've already done that i'm kind of out of ideas. If you have a repair shop close by i'd suggest checking with them even though you might have to pay a decent amount of money for a simple fix. That's the scary part.