Question Having low fps in minecraft on high end pc

[Malwiris113]

I have problem like saianpornhub on Jan 7 2020,

"just like saianxnxx (nice name lol) i just buy a pc gamer specs: pny rtx 2060 super
i5-9400f and 16 gb of ram 2666 mhz but i couldnt follow this steps u told him to because im using a cracked version of the game (tlauncher) and i tried to but its different having a cracked version
plss i need help i just dreamed about playing minecraft with shaders for my whole life btw i tested 2 other games and they are going well"


difference is that i have legal version of minecraft, and amd ryzen 7 3700x, 16gb ram 3000mhz, and rtx 2060 super (8gb), still - having low fps, i'd like to play modpacks like RLCRAFT but i cant ( framerate drops to 30-40), for comparision - i can play world of tanks on ultra with 200+ fps :/, newest modern warfare with 130 on ultra too, and also site -can you run it shows that i can easilly play RDR2,....help pls - also shaders would be perfect but i don't want to play minecraft feeling like it runs as windows photo manager ehhh

 

[Phaaze88]

Support with cracked/pirated software is against the forum rules - also, for legal reasons.

You'll have to try a different forum; I'm sure there are a few Minecraft specific forums where people could help you?
Look into Optifine as well.

 

[Malwiris113]

Support with cracked/pirated software is against the forum rules - also, for legal reasons.

You'll have to try a different forum; I'm sure there are a few Minecraft specific forums where people could help you?
Look into Optifine as well.

You didn't understand me - i bought minecraft in 2015 and im using ( legal, full version, NOT cracked /pirated, )



I'm using optifine - nothing changed at all

 

[Phaaze88]

You didn't understand me - i bought minecraft in 2015 and im using ( legal, full version, NOT cracked /pirated, )

Ok. The way the statement was worded left me with the impression that you were. Thanks for clearing that up.

It seems like SO MANY PEOPLE have trouble running that darn game well.
Now I'm a little curious as to how I'd fare if I tried to run it - but not enough to spend $25(?) for a run or 2, and never touch it again - it's not really my cup of tea.

And there's like HOW many versions of the game out there?
-Vanilla?
-Windows 10?
-Java - I think they all use Java anyway?
-More?

It, or one of those versions, runs poorly for laptop users - but that's only because of the default settings, which the graphics and everything else are rendered by the cpu. The gpu just sits there watching the cpu work it's ass off.
The game engine, by default, cares little about discreet graphics cards; it's all cpu.
I know you're not running a laptop, but I can't help but think you're in a similar spot: going to have to change some settings to force the game to use the gpu.

Open up Nvidia Control Panel > Adjust image settings with preview, click 'Use the advanced 3D image settings', then click 'Take me there'. Make these changes:
OpenGL rendering GPU: select your gpu from the drop-down list instead of the default setting
Power management mode: Either Adaptive or Max
Texture filtering - Quality: High performance

Click Apply at the bottom of the window, then click the Program Settings tab. Find the Minecraft.exe - you might have to add it in if it's not in the drop-down list - and make sure it's set to use the gpu.
Click Apply again if needed.

Back to the sidebar, click on 'Configure Surround, PhysX'.
On PhysX settings, select your gpu again for the Processor.
Click Apply, exit NVCP, and test in game.

 

[Printed Circuit Bro]

And there's like HOW many versions of the game out there?
-Vanilla?
-Windows 10?
-Java - I think they all use Java anyway?
-More?

There are 2 versions available. One is the java version and one is the C++ version.

Microsoft Store sells the C++ version, aka Windows 10 version. If you buy the C++ version, that's all you'll ever have access to which restricts you to certain platforms and restricts access to 3rd party content (can you say Microsoft Store to pay to change your character skin? YAAAAAY microtransactions!)

The Java edition you can get from minecraft.net and is DEFINITELY the version everyone should be buying. Your user/pass from this will work on the Microsoft Windows 10 version. The java version also includes the ability to install 3rd party content which is the only reason to continue playing this game.

 

[Printed Circuit Bro]

difference is that i have legal version of minecraft, and amd ryzen 7 3700x, 16gb ram 3000mhz, and rtx 2060 super (8gb), still - having low fps, i'd like to play modpacks like RLCRAFT but i cant

Sounds like you have the java version. Good.

1. Are you using a launcher that allows you to check / set RAM allocation?
2. Do you have 64 bit java installed?

By default, if you go to java.com and download the latest, you'll only get the 32 bit version. If you want the 64 bit version, you have to download that separately.

My two-fold suggestion is that, in the launcher if you use one, make sure "javaw" is set which is the 64 bit version of java. Next, check RAM allocation to make sure you allocate enough RAM. The more mods you install the more it'll take. You'll lose framerate if you don't have enough RAM allocated. I usually just dedicate 6GB or 8GB and we're golden.

 

[Malwiris113]

Sounds like you have the java version. Good.

1. Are you using a launcher that allows you to check / set RAM allocation?
2. Do you have 64 bit java installed?

By default, if you go to java.com and download the latest, you'll only get the 32 bit version. If you want the 64 bit version, you have to download that separately.

My two-fold suggestion is that, in the launcher if you use one, make sure "javaw" is set which is the 64 bit version of java. Next, check RAM allocation to make sure you allocate enough RAM. The more mods you install the more it'll take. You'll lose framerate if you don't have enough RAM allocated. I usually just dedicate 6GB or 8GB and we're golden.

i use original launcher, and yep i can, with the jvm arguments "xnx8g" or something like that,

i have hava 64 bit

10gb allocated

 

[Malwiris113]

Ok. The way the statement was worded left me with the impression that you were. Thanks for clearing that up.

It seems like SO MANY PEOPLE have trouble running that darn game well.
Now I'm a little curious as to how I'd fare if I tried to run it - but not enough to spend $25(?) for a run or 2, and never touch it again - it's not really my cup of tea.

And there's like HOW many versions of the game out there?
-Vanilla?
-Windows 10?
-Java - I think they all use Java anyway?
-More?

It, or one of those versions, runs poorly for laptop users - but that's only because of the default settings, which the graphics and everything else are rendered by the cpu. The gpu just sits there watching the cpu work it's ass off.
The game engine, by default, cares little about discreet graphics cards; it's all cpu.
I know you're not running a laptop, but I can't help but think you're in a similar spot: going to have to change some settings to force the game to use the gpu.

Open up Nvidia Control Panel > Adjust image settings with preview, click 'Use the advanced 3D image settings', then click 'Take me there'. Make these changes:
OpenGL rendering GPU: select your gpu from the drop-down list instead of the default setting
Power management mode: Either Adaptive or Max
Texture filtering - Quality: High performance

Click Apply at the bottom of the window, then click the Program Settings tab. Find the Minecraft.exe - you might have to add it in if it's not in the drop-down list - and make sure it's set to use the gpu.
Click Apply again if needed.

Back to the sidebar, click on 'Configure Surround, PhysX'.
On PhysX settings, select your gpu again for the Processor.
Click Apply, exit NVCP, and test in game.

so i did everything that you just wrote here, but it still gives me very poor fps while playing with rl craft and shaders :/

 

[Phaaze88]

There are 2 versions available. One is the java version and one is the C++ version.

Microsoft Store sells the C++ version, aka Windows 10 version. If you buy the C++ version, that's all you'll ever have access to which restricts you to certain platforms and restricts access to 3rd party content (can you say Microsoft Store to pay to change your character skin? YAAAAAY microtransactions!)

The Java edition you can get from minecraft.net and is DEFINITELY the version everyone should be buying. Your user/pass from this will work on the Microsoft Windows 10 version. The java version also includes the ability to install 3rd party content which is the only reason to continue playing this game.

I really didn't know - only that there is more than 1 version. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[DSzymborski]

Now, is Minecraft causing issues without no mods? That's kind of key here as to what's going on. Modded games can be extraordinarily variable in how they affect performance. With enough mods, you can make Elder Scrolls Oblivion run horribly on modern hardware.

 

[Malwiris113]

Now, is Minecraft causing issues without no mods? That's kind of key here as to what's going on. Modded games can be extraordinarily variable in how they affect performance. With enough mods, you can make Elder Scrolls Oblivion run horribly on modern hardware.

I just use RLCRAFT modpack, optifine, shaders - that's all, and im having 30-40 fps, without any mods i have like 120-140 (which is very low comparing to components in my pc that i have :/ i don't know what to do more with that :/

 

[Printed Circuit Bro]

so i did everything that you just wrote here, but it still gives me very poor fps while playing with rl craft and shaders :/

What detail level of shader did you install? 16bit? 32bit? 64bit? 128bit?

How much memory is on your video card?

 

[Printed Circuit Bro]

i use original launcher, and yep i can, with the jvm arguments "xnx8g" or something like that,

i have hava 64 bit

10gb allocated

TEN GIGS LOL



You might want to dial that back. Let windows keep at least 8gigs. If you've got 16 gigs of ram, consider 6-8 gigs. You shouldn't need more than 8 gigs. Even with some 200+ mod pack plus 128 bit shaders, you shouldn't need to allocate more than 8 gigs.

I'd like to help more, but this is the extent of my experience trying to repeatedly get that damn game working properly over the years

 

[Malwiris113]

What detail level of shader did you install? 16bit? 32bit? 64bit? 128bit?

How much memory is on your video card?

my video card is 8gb memory,

i dont know how to answer question about level of details? i dont think so that there is different shaders (about 16bit etc. ) shaders are installed with standard options - i use sonic ethers, not modifying any options with them.


changed from 10gb of ram to 8gb, not much difference still low fps - actually is like 80-90 but drops to even lower than 60fps.

what do you think about making my graphic card more used ? i remember that in 1 game where you could see how many memory of video card would be used - i had problems with performance when used less than 3gb (while i have 8gb) and when i turned options up to consume 4-5gb graphic card started to be louder than normal, and i had normal performance ( it was gta5 as far as i remember)

maybe i should do something to make minecraft consume more memory from my graphic card to make it work faster?

 

[Printed Circuit Bro]

my video card is 8gb memory,

i dont know how to answer question about level of details? i dont think so that there is different shaders (about 16bit etc. ) shaders are installed with standard options - i use sonic ethers, not modifying any options with them.


changed from 10gb of ram to 8gb, not much difference still low fps - actually is like 80-90 but drops to even lower than 60fps.

what do you think about making my graphic card more used ? i remember that in 1 game where you could see how many memory of video card would be used - i had problems with performance when used less than 3gb (while i have 8gb) and when i turned options up to consume 4-5gb graphic card started to be louder than normal, and i had normal performance ( it was gta5 as far as i remember)

maybe i should do something to make minecraft consume more memory from my graphic card to make it work faster?

I'm not sure on that one. I've never had to modify GPU memory allocation, even when I was running on an old GTX460.

When it comes to shaders, you definitely do have a choice in level of detail and it makes a big difference in performance.

As an example, if you were to install one of those crazy 4k realism mods you'd probably be looking at frame rates like a slide show

On of my favorite resource packs (texture pack) is Sphax aka BD Craft.
https://bdcraft.net/community/releases-for-mods-f9/purebdcraft-shader-support-t7069.html
You can see on this page, when you click the appropriate version of Minecraft, the button to click says "512x". That's a level of detail using "bits" as the unit of measure, and one that won't run well on ancient computers (yours isn't). If someone had an older computer, they might try the 256 bit version or the 128 bit version or the 64 bit version, etc. Each smaller number is lower level of detail, takes less memory and processing power to render.

Which shader did you use? Can you link it?

Also, like what someone else mentioned, what happens when you run the vanilla game? No mods, no 3rd party shaders, etc.

 

[Printed Circuit Bro]

Here's a video of one of those insane 4k texture packs.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekG2q_eYCAM

 

[Malwiris113]

I'm not sure on that one. I've never had to modify GPU memory allocation, even when I was running on an old GTX460.

When it comes to shaders, you definitely do have a choice in level of detail and it makes a big difference in performance.

As an example, if you were to install one of those crazy 4k realism mods you'd probably be looking at frame rates like a slide show

On of my favorite resource packs (texture pack) is Sphax aka BD Craft.
https://bdcraft.net/community/releases-for-mods-f9/purebdcraft-shader-support-t7069.html
You can see on this page, when you click the appropriate version of Minecraft, the button to click says "512x". That's a level of detail using "bits" as the unit of measure, and one that won't run well on ancient computers (yours isn't). If someone had an older computer, they might try the 256 bit version or the 128 bit version or the 64 bit version, etc. Each smaller number is lower level of detail, takes less memory and processing power to render.

Which shader did you use? Can you link it?

Also, like what someone else mentioned, what happens when you run the vanilla game? No mods, no 3rd party shaders, etc.

ok so, i use x32 bit TEXTURE PACK, shader's is something different - it does not have any option to change level of details with bits per square

https://sonicether.com/seus/ - this is shaders i use

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/texture-packs/faithful-32x and that's my texture pack (32bit)

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/modpacks/rlcraft - that's modpack i want to use with texture pack (higher link) and shaders (the first link)

and installing these three results in really bad performance :/

 

[Printed Circuit Bro]

I was thinking the two terms as interchangeable. Facepalm. Sorry.

Okay, so you checked without those three installed, just the base game, and it doesn't degrade your performance?

 

[Malwiris113]

I'm not sure on that one. I've never had to modify GPU memory allocation, even when I was running on an old GTX460.

When it comes to shaders, you definitely do have a choice in level of detail and it makes a big difference in performance.

As an example, if you were to install one of those crazy 4k realism mods you'd probably be looking at frame rates like a slide show

On of my favorite resource packs (texture pack) is Sphax aka BD Craft.
https://bdcraft.net/community/releases-for-mods-f9/purebdcraft-shader-support-t7069.html
You can see on this page, when you click the appropriate version of Minecraft, the button to click says "512x". That's a level of detail using "bits" as the unit of measure, and one that won't run well on ancient computers (yours isn't). If someone had an older computer, they might try the 256 bit version or the 128 bit version or the 64 bit version, etc. Each smaller number is lower level of detail, takes less memory and processing power to render.

Which shader did you use? Can you link it?

Also, like what someone else mentioned, what happens when you run the vanilla game? No mods, no 3rd party shaders, etc.

also, if i have no mods ( vanilla game ) i have like 200fps but when moving mouse or move in game - it drops very low ( 200fps is only while staying and not moving - just watching screen - when i change direction of view or move myself - drops to 80-90 and sometimes have little freezes that drops to 10-20 fps (wtf?)


edit: minecraft seems to be really unfriendly with high shelf PC, i checked for comparision assasin's creed odyssey, and i easilly played with my components on highest possible graphics options ( not including screen scaling ofc) and on ULTRA i have that 90-100 fps not dropping below 70


seems that it is not given to me to play minecraft ;-;


also, i readed 2y ago that minecraft use only 1 core of processor, maybe that's the issue? i have 8 cores and my processor performance depends on allocating all pressure on every core the same - with old processor it was different - performance of single core were better (also i had 4 cores - it gives more pressure on single core - and there i had even 600-800 fps in mc) than on single with new one.


is there a way to check that? or if it is the problem - to repair that in some way?

 

[ferret63]

Ok. The way the statement was worded left me with the impression that you were. Thanks for clearing that up.

It seems like SO MANY PEOPLE have trouble running that darn game well.
Now I'm a little curious as to how I'd fare if I tried to run it - but not enough to spend $25(?) for a run or 2, and never touch it again - it's not really my cup of tea.

And there's like HOW many versions of the game out there?
-Vanilla?
-Windows 10?
-Java - I think they all use Java anyway?
-More?

It, or one of those versions, runs poorly for laptop users - but that's only because of the default settings, which the graphics and everything else are rendered by the cpu. The gpu just sits there watching the cpu work it's ass off.
The game engine, by default, cares little about discreet graphics cards; it's all cpu.
I know you're not running a laptop, but I can't help but think you're in a similar spot: going to have to change some settings to force the game to use the gpu.

Open up Nvidia Control Panel > Adjust image settings with preview, click 'Use the advanced 3D image settings', then click 'Take me there'. Make these changes:
OpenGL rendering GPU: select your gpu from the drop-down list instead of the default setting
Power management mode: Either Adaptive or Max
Texture filtering - Quality: High performance

Click Apply at the bottom of the window, then click the Program Settings tab. Find the Minecraft.exe - you might have to add it in if it's not in the drop-down list - and make sure it's set to use the gpu.
Click Apply again if needed.

Back to the sidebar, click on 'Configure Surround, PhysX'.
On PhysX settings, select your gpu again for the Processor.
Click Apply, exit NVCP, and test in game.

you are a life saver thank you so much i was getting 60 fps max and now im getting 620 fps max

 

[TallOnTwo]

I must be having a different issue because I have made the changes to my NVCP and done everything else I can think of/find on the internet and I can't get more than 15 fps when I used to get over 400fps no problem.