Having Some Odd Bottleneck Issues

[thenewblindshot]

I'm running an old Core 2 Quad q9650 with a GTX 1050 from Zotac and have recently been having bad performance and some bottlenecking. When I play Rainbow Six SIege, for example, I'm getting around 80%-90% CPU usage and only 40%-50% GPU usage. Everywhere I've looked says that I shouldn't be having bottlenecking issues, and most of the other people who are still running C2Q processors are using 1050 ti's or even 1060s. Does anybody have any ideas on why I'm bottlenecking or how to alleviate the problems?

 

[Dunlop0078]

That sounds right to me. I would absolutely expect a core 2 quad to bottleneck a 1050 ti in any remotely cpu intensive modern game like siege.

 

[thenewblindshot]

That sounds right to me. I would absolutely expect a core 2 quad to bottleneck a 1050 ti in any remotely cpu intensive modern game like siege.

It doesn't add up. Siege really isn't CPU intensive, and a 1050 should be the furthest thing from being bottlenecked. I should be getting 70-90 fps on medium settings at 1080p. I'm getting 45-60 at low settings. Bumping it up doesn't help. Point is, it SHOULD NOT be bottlenecking, but it is, I'm asking why.

 

[Dunlop0078]

Why do you think it should not be bottlenecking? What are you basing that on? Some random youtube video im guessing. If your CPU is close to 0% usage at idle, it is reaching it's rated 3.0ghz speeds under load and you are still hitting near 100% cpu usage in game you have a cpu bottleneck. I's as simple as that. Why do you think an 11 year old CPU is capable of getting the most out of a 1050 ti in a game like siege? You're right it's not very cpu intensive for a modern CPU but for a core 2 quad it most certainly is.

 

[drivinfast247]

Increase the graphics settings.

 

[thenewblindshot]

Why do you think it should not be bottlenecking? What are you basing that on? Some random youtube video im guessing. If your CPU is close to 0% usage at idle, it is reaching it's rated 3.0ghz speeds under load and you are still hitting near 100% cpu usage in game you have a cpu bottleneck. I's as simple as that. Why do you think an 11 year old CPU is capable of getting the most out of a 1050 ti in a game like siege? You're right it's not very cpu intensive for a modern CPU but for a core 2 quad it most certainly is.

Obviously, you don't listen. I'm using a NORMAL 1050, no TI in the name. I have friends and know plenty of people with very similar setups who experience no bottlenecking whatsoever. There are NUMEROUS YouTube videos on the topic, not just "some random video" I'll link one as an example. In this video, the man runs a q9650 with a 1050 ti, and it BARELY bottlenecks at all, even in very CPU intensive games like GTA V. If you're not going to reply to my thread with help, you can leave it alone. Obviously you don't know enough to help anyway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmopChPCVqA

 

[thenewblindshot]

Increase the graphics settings.

I've already stated that I've done so, and there's been no change.

 

[drivinfast247]

What are your full PC specs?

 

[thenewblindshot]

What are your full PC specs?

C2Q q9650 @3GHz
8gb DDR3 1066
Zotac GTX 1050 Mini 2gb

 

[drivinfast247]

Is that 8gb ram a 2x4gb set?

 

[thenewblindshot]

Is that 8gb ram a 2x4gb set?

It's a 4x2gb set, sadly.
I've made sure that it's all detected and running in dual channel.

 

[WildCard999]

The video you linked does state that the CPU is overclocked to 3.8ghz which is 800mhz above your stock CPU and could make a noticeable difference.

 

[WildCard999]

Is that 8gb ram a 2x4gb set?

It's a 4x2gb set, sadly.
I've made sure that it's all detected and running in dual channel.

2x4gb is better then 1x8gb.

 

[thenewblindshot]

The video you linked does state that the CPU is overclocked to 3.8ghz which is 800mhz above your stock CPU and could make a noticeable difference.

I am going to work towards an overclock soon, thank you for noticing, I actually did not notice that. Either way, a 60% bottleneck on my gpu is still way too much and my original questions still stand.

 

[kerberos_20]

install msi afterburner, setup osd monitoring for cpu/gpu utilisation
run some game
if your GPU doesnt go ~98% then your CPU is bottlenecking it

 

[WildCard999]

The video you linked does state that the CPU is overclocked to 3.8ghz which is 800mhz above your stock CPU and could make a noticeable difference.

I am going to work towards an overclock soon, thank you for noticing, I actually did not notice that. Either way, a 60% bottleneck on my gpu is still way too much and my original questions still stand.

What resolution are you gaming at? Also what settings typically?

 

[thenewblindshot]

install msi afterburner, setup osd monitoring for cpu/gpu utilisation
run some game
if your GPU doesnt go ~98% then your CPU is bottlenecking it

I've already used afterburner and have determined that it is bottlenecking, the issue is that it shouldn't be bottlenecking, at least not as much as it is. Thank you fur trying to help.

 

[thenewblindshot]

The video you linked does state that the CPU is overclocked to 3.8ghz which is 800mhz above your stock CPU and could make a noticeable difference.

I am going to work towards an overclock soon, thank you for noticing, I actually did not notice that. Either way, a 60% bottleneck on my gpu is still way too much and my original questions still stand.

What resolution are you gaming at? Also what settings typically?

1080p at low - medium settings. I've already tried increasing and lowering the settings, ad it hasn't helped.

 

[WildCard999]

So increasing the graphic settings isn't increasing the GPU usage? Try high/ultra.

 

[thenewblindshot]

So increasing the graphic settings isn't increasing the GPU usage? Try high/ultra.

I have tried high/ultra, but the card doesn't have enough vram to even launch the game at those settings. Last time I tried it, I had to reinstall.

 

[WildCard999]

Download & run Heaven Benchmark, this is very graphically demanding and should use your GPU more then most FPS style games. I'd run it at Low once then try High or Ultra and make a note of GPU usage.
https://benchmark.unigine.com/heaven

Overclocking your CPU would definitely reduce any kind of "bottleneck" in the system and should allow for some better performance. However, if lowering your graphic settings (from high for example down to low) doesn't increase your FPS then the CPU is the issue.

https://davescomputertips.com/how-to-determine-gpu-vs-cpu-bottlenecks-and-possible-solutions/

 

[thenewblindshot]

Download & run Heaven Benchmark, this is very graphically demanding and should use your GPU more then most FPS style games. I'd run it at Low once then try High or Ultra and make a note of GPU usage.
https://benchmark.unigine.com/heaven

Overclocking your CPU would definitely reduce any kind of "bottleneck" in the system and should allow for some better performance. However, if lowering your graphic settings (from high for example down to low) doesn't increase your FPS then the CPU is the issue.

https://davescomputertips.com/how-to-determine-gpu-vs-cpu-bottlenecks-and-possible-solutions/

Thanks for the help, I think the only way I can fix this is by overclocking. I'll run Heaven and do my best from there. Thanks for actually trying to help me.

 

[WildCard999]

Your welcome, Heaven is really GPU heavy so if you don't see a higher usage above 50% then I'm out of ideas. Let us know how it turns out.

 

[drivinfast247]

So, what was the answer?

 

[thenewblindshot]

So, what was the answer?

There was no real answer, just some steps to take. I guess I already knew what I needed to do.