- Oct 20, 2013
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Hello genius's and n00bs,
I need to build a new system and have a budget of around $3,500 which must include a high end single monitor. The primary use is for 3D modelling but not so render intensive as the games are not on the level of the newest titles. It's for game character creation so kind of a gaming rig but not so much actual gaming but the secondary use may also be gaming from time to time but ultimately this is for real company work. Apps used are 3Ds Max, Blender, PS, Gimp, Mari and maybe Maya etc. At least 1-2 game platforms and virtual reality simulations will also always be running in the background 24/7 hogging resources so multi-tasking having multiple apps open 24/7 without breaking a sweat is critical to productivity.
I really wish I could wait for Haswell-E or Broadwell and Maxwell for GPU's or at least for a Titan 2 / Ultra but it's getting down to the line on the piece of crap Dell machine being used and end of year sales are right around the corner.
This upcoming black friday / cyber monday will be when the components are bought; initially a 4770k with either a VI Formula or Z87-GD65 and a Titan x1 with the option to go 2 to 4 down the line was considered. The case I am looking at for my partner is an Asus M70AD. Despite weeks of research i'm in a tough spot as not only do I have to build something that is future proof but also outperforms the new Mac Pro's being released next month as my partner does not want to be out-bragged shortly after the purchase.
The other option was an i7-4960x due to the X79's quad channel support and high bandwidth in case quad-sli is used down the line while expanding. I was told for a mere sacrifice of 3MB Cache (and maybe a couple other minor dents in performance) that an i7-4930k can be had for half the price and be overclocked easily to surpass the 4960 while keeping more funds available for other components. Dual or temporarily single xeon setups were considered but were determined to be far more power than needed for our application.
It is my understanding that the new Mac Pro's will be utilizing Ivy Bridge-E and we are big fans of ECC memory which will also debut in the new Mac Pro's. Even though imo it isn't really critical to have, my partner wants that feature due to the belief that there will be a lot less errors and BSOD's and overall better reliability and performance due to the 24/7 always on use requirements. They also want a water cooled dust proof system that she will be proud to work on for the next year or so without regretting springing for the Mac.
I would r e a l l y appreciate some expert opinion on a budget conscience but overall aggressive build that can be done now to pre-empt Mac's release or I will be forced to deal with turning that trash can into a hackintosh or dual booting and driver nightmares as I am allergic to Apple and their Form > Function pay more for bragging rights ..philosophies. Their 6-Core starts at $4k and god knows how much with upgrades as their ECC memory build defaults are kind of low. I can stay around this price but am hoping to build something that can compete with their 12 core 64gb ram top of the line maxxed out option while still considering the overall value and future value since I'm sure haswell-e and broadwell will render this build a waste a couple years from now in terms of amount invested vs effective use/value of the build so please think long-term!
The baseline CPU is an i7-4770k and up.
The baseline GPU is a Titan and up. (Due to the value of its workstation performance).
ECC Quad Channel Memory is desired with a minimum memory capability of 32 and a max of 64.
If this build seems a little unreal at all then please offer base/core recommendations for the CPU and Mobo alone that will allow us to overclock and upgrade it down the line to this level as more funds for upgrades will come later. Please keep in mind the release of new technologies down the line. I'd like to know that if a new Titan came out or the Maxwell cards that we'd have no problem upgrading to them to compete with Apple's dual FirePro's down the line.
Finally, the other hard part i've hard is choosing the GPU! Finding a middle ground between workstation and gaming cards is a headache and I'm not sure what game developers use in their systems to be able to fully render yet test/benchmark their work at the same time?
What should I do! I'm really running out of time and we are losing money daily.
I need to build a new system and have a budget of around $3,500 which must include a high end single monitor. The primary use is for 3D modelling but not so render intensive as the games are not on the level of the newest titles. It's for game character creation so kind of a gaming rig but not so much actual gaming but the secondary use may also be gaming from time to time but ultimately this is for real company work. Apps used are 3Ds Max, Blender, PS, Gimp, Mari and maybe Maya etc. At least 1-2 game platforms and virtual reality simulations will also always be running in the background 24/7 hogging resources so multi-tasking having multiple apps open 24/7 without breaking a sweat is critical to productivity.
I really wish I could wait for Haswell-E or Broadwell and Maxwell for GPU's or at least for a Titan 2 / Ultra but it's getting down to the line on the piece of crap Dell machine being used and end of year sales are right around the corner.
This upcoming black friday / cyber monday will be when the components are bought; initially a 4770k with either a VI Formula or Z87-GD65 and a Titan x1 with the option to go 2 to 4 down the line was considered. The case I am looking at for my partner is an Asus M70AD. Despite weeks of research i'm in a tough spot as not only do I have to build something that is future proof but also outperforms the new Mac Pro's being released next month as my partner does not want to be out-bragged shortly after the purchase.
The other option was an i7-4960x due to the X79's quad channel support and high bandwidth in case quad-sli is used down the line while expanding. I was told for a mere sacrifice of 3MB Cache (and maybe a couple other minor dents in performance) that an i7-4930k can be had for half the price and be overclocked easily to surpass the 4960 while keeping more funds available for other components. Dual or temporarily single xeon setups were considered but were determined to be far more power than needed for our application.
It is my understanding that the new Mac Pro's will be utilizing Ivy Bridge-E and we are big fans of ECC memory which will also debut in the new Mac Pro's. Even though imo it isn't really critical to have, my partner wants that feature due to the belief that there will be a lot less errors and BSOD's and overall better reliability and performance due to the 24/7 always on use requirements. They also want a water cooled dust proof system that she will be proud to work on for the next year or so without regretting springing for the Mac.
I would r e a l l y appreciate some expert opinion on a budget conscience but overall aggressive build that can be done now to pre-empt Mac's release or I will be forced to deal with turning that trash can into a hackintosh or dual booting and driver nightmares as I am allergic to Apple and their Form > Function pay more for bragging rights ..philosophies. Their 6-Core starts at $4k and god knows how much with upgrades as their ECC memory build defaults are kind of low. I can stay around this price but am hoping to build something that can compete with their 12 core 64gb ram top of the line maxxed out option while still considering the overall value and future value since I'm sure haswell-e and broadwell will render this build a waste a couple years from now in terms of amount invested vs effective use/value of the build so please think long-term!
The baseline CPU is an i7-4770k and up.
The baseline GPU is a Titan and up. (Due to the value of its workstation performance).
ECC Quad Channel Memory is desired with a minimum memory capability of 32 and a max of 64.
If this build seems a little unreal at all then please offer base/core recommendations for the CPU and Mobo alone that will allow us to overclock and upgrade it down the line to this level as more funds for upgrades will come later. Please keep in mind the release of new technologies down the line. I'd like to know that if a new Titan came out or the Maxwell cards that we'd have no problem upgrading to them to compete with Apple's dual FirePro's down the line.
Finally, the other hard part i've hard is choosing the GPU! Finding a middle ground between workstation and gaming cards is a headache and I'm not sure what game developers use in their systems to be able to fully render yet test/benchmark their work at the same time?
What should I do! I'm really running out of time and we are losing money daily.
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