Help me build an extreme gaming pc, need advices on components

[romafe23]

I opened a thread yesterday, I tried to close that but it looks like users can't close their own threads.. (if any moderator reads this feel free to close my other thread, which can be found here: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3736471/building-high-end-gaming.html).
I am posting a new one because I maturated many different questions in the previous one, discovering my knowledge is far less than I thought.

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My budget is around 10.000$
I am planning to build a very high-end pc, mostly for gaming.

I do need help in builiding it, starting from the case selection going down to the details, peripherals and so on..
Please provide as much answers as you can, especially regarding the peripherals.
Please provide as much details as possible.

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I made a pcpartpicker one:PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1950X 3.4GHz 16-Core Processor ($749.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG ZENITH EXTREME EATX TR4 Motherboard ($469.89 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Memory: G.Skill - TridentZ RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($420.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - TridentZ RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($420.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Pro 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($229.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO 4TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($1499.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Extreme Core Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($799.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Extreme Core Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($799.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: Thermaltake - View 71 TG RGB ATX Full Tower Case ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Thermaltake - Toughpower DPS G RGB Titanium 1500W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($369.05 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair - LL120 RGB LED 43.2 CFM 120mm Fan ($32.01 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair - LL120RGB LED (Three Fans With Lighting Node PRO) 43.2 CFM 120mm Fans ($94.98 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair - LL140 RGB LED 51.5 CFM 140mm Fan ($36.74 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus - ROG SWIFT PG27UQ 27.0" 3840x2160 144Hz Monitor ($2435.40 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Keyboard: Corsair - K95 RGB PLATINUM Wired Gaming Keyboard ($171.90 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer - Naga Trinity Wired Optical Mouse ($90.02 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Corsair - VOID PRO RGB (White/Black) 7.1 Channel Headset ($98.79 @ Amazon)
Speakers: Razer - Leviathan 60W 5.1ch Speakers ($187.59 @ Amazon)
Total: $9077.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-04 08:32 EDT-0400

Please give me suggestions about my build.
I got few questions on the build aswell:
- Is the case I picked good?
- Should I go for Corsair Fans or with Thermaltake ones to match case ones?
- I went for a Thermaltake psu mostly because he's rgb. It's a titanium certified psu 1250w.. Is that too much power? Would my electricity consumption benefit from using a 1000w platinum one?
- I don't know which gamepad to pick

Screenshots:
My plan was a gpu sli composed of 2 high-tier gpus and a custom liquid cooling system.
I'll post a few screenshots showing some moddded pcs I like:
570x dual gpu: http://hexus.net/media/uploaded/2016/11/824d4b43-ff8f-4eff-9762-c4a574c867d9.png
570x + ll120 fans: https://cdn.pcpartpicker.com/static/forever/images/content/453eb4427b4ad9085291e1ffae9d8aeb.jpg
570x + ml120 fans: https://www.overclock.net/photopost/data/1655111/4/4a/4a4ea0fe_IMG_2032.jpeg
570x + custom liquid cooling: https://www.scan.co.uk/images/products/2902162-b.jpg
570x insight on cusom liquid cooling: https://linustechtips.com/main/uploads/monthly_2018_04/10.jpg.63b225143f9e84139522125bf1bddfc7.jpg
anidees AI crystal timelapse mod: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/o7i6DSCKNA0/maxresdefault.jpg

General questions:
1. Will a middle-tower case, like the "Corsair 570x crystal", be spacious/wide enough to sustain such a build? (I showed some pictures with dual gpu build and liquid cooling, but it looks very narrow).
1b. If not, I'd like to pick the "anidees AI Crystal", which is a full-tower case that looks incredibly good to me, but I never heard of the "anidees" company before.. are they trustable/reliable as sellers?
1c. Will there be any compatibility problems with the 11xx series?
2. Should I wait for the 1180 series to be released or should I get 1080 ti instead? I just read that 1180 will probably be mounting GDDR6 memory, which may be far better than the current GDDR5 mounted by most gpus. I wouldn't care about a 20% performance increase, but I fear that this may be a little "gap" in the gaming world.
2b. If yes, what can I get as a substitute in my build? I was planning to get a 1050 Ti.
2c. What about the custom liquid cooling system? I am gonna ask a local shop to build it (I'm not good with pipes and stuff). If the clcs (custom liquid cooling system, from now on "clcs") is planned for a single gpu how much tedious is to change it to fit 2 gpus (2x 1180)?
3. Is a 1000W PSU enough to power this machine?
3b. If not, how much power is needed?
3c. Should I invest some more money to get a "Titanium" certificated one, or is a "Platinum" enough? (Consider I plan to power off my pc only to install updates and for maintenance)
3d. Is an RGB PSU a nice addition to the customization? (it doesn't look very bright to me)
4. Should I get a top-tier cpu? (threadripper or i9)
4b. Will I experience any increase in performances running one of those cpus? (Consider gaming, 3d modeling, 3d rendering)
5. Do you think Corsair ML120 PRO RGB looks bad compared to LL120 RGB? I do, and thus can't decide.
6. Do you think 4TB are enough as an archive storage?
7. Do you think that Gunnars (gaming glasses) may be useful?


Detailed questions about components/peripherals:
A. Corsair 570X Crystal vs anidees AI Crystal - which one is better, and why?
B. Ryzen 7 2700x vs Intel Core i7 8086k - which one is better, and why?
C. Ryzen Threadripper 1950x vs Intel Core i9 7980XE - which one fits my build the most, and why?
D. Samsung 970 EVO M.2 vs. Samsung 970 PRO M.2 - which one is better, and why?
E. Corsair ML120 PRO RGB vs Corsair LL120 RGB - which one is better, and why?
F. Seagate Barracuda Pro 7200rpm 10TB vs. Samsung 860 EVO SSD 4TB - which one should I pick, and why?
G. Corsair K95 Platinum vs any other valuable gaming keyboard - which one is better, and why?
H. Razer Naga Trinity vs any other valubale gaming keyboard - which one is better, and why?
I. Asus PG27UQ vs Acer Predator X27 - which one is better, and why?

Looking for:
I. A pair of "over-ear" headphones.. They must be "over-ear" because my ear suffer a lot from wearing "on-ear" ones. I'd like them to be bluetooth or wireless.
I found this one, are these good? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L6S6XWO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_11?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
II. A gamepad (actually 2) to play some offline games.. Scufs are way overexpensive, and considering I won't be using them much I don't think I'll be getting one. XBox One original pads are really expensive, but I do like the design and ergonomics.
I found these ones, but they are even more expensiven (but with a cool design): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076ZC7KQM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_13?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
Could you please suggest me a good gamepad (cabled or not)? RGB would be great, but I don't really care much about the pad..
III. An external sound system. I was looking over "soundbars" which seems pretty solid. I found Razer's soundbar: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PK2POOU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_15?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
Looks good to me because it has an external subwoofer aswell. If you were me, which one would you choose? Please provide me suggestions about good external audio systems (not necessarily soundbars).

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Thanks everyone, your opinion means a lot to me.
Roberto

 

[J_E_D_70]

Actually, if money simply didn’t matter I’d order a custom painted rig from Digital Storm or another custom builder.

 

[romafe23]

Actually, if money simply didn’t matter I’d order a custom painted rig from Digital Storm or another custom builder.

Do they sell cases on their own? Because I can only find customizable pc options.. I'd be glad to buy a custom case. I'd be ok to buy it from a private aswell.

 

[romafe23]

If you're looking for an example on why we call what you want to do overbuilt and overexpensive, look no farther than your original choice of a Threadripper. Those are terrific chips, if you're primarily interested in higher-end workstation functions. A Threadripper is actually a worse gaming CPU than the 8700k that you can purchase for less than half its price. Same goes for an i9. And there's approximately zero chance that you need 64 GB of RAM.

Everyone here has built a lot of systems and when we see a system ludicrously overpriced for the goal, we're going to say something. We're not here to be limited to only the question that is asked and most of us will look at the entirety of the situation.

And you were able to guess my goal by simply reading "mostly for gaming"?
A more constructive way to answer would be:


Hey man, I read that your primary goal is gaming. If that's true you don't need all that power, you could just go:
bla bla bla (list of the components).
As for Threadripper, that's a workstation cpu, which is not suited for gaming pcs. If you plan to do only gaming you may want to get back to a Ryzen 7 or something, especially because such a cpu may even perform worse than a cpu built for gaming. Otherwise if you plan to video render, 3d manipulate and so on, you might want to go for Threadripper or i9.
As for the ram, I do 4k video renders, and I use up to 24gb of rams, meaning you won't ever need 64gb.. Unless you are doing ramdisks or heavy virtualization.
With such a budget you could go for a 4000$ gaming rig, which will perform as good as your original request asked for. You may consider spending an additional 1000-2000$ for bling and peripherals, even if I don't suggest so/agree on that.


Isn't this better?
You would be sharing your knowledge about those topics with me (and everyone else reading), you would be asserting your own point of view, while being helpful.

I don't want to doubt your (or any other else's) work, I value it, and I am sure you could be very helpful to me. But I wonder why most people are just writing me I'm wasting my money, but not why I am and what could I do to optimize my build.

 

[King Dranzer]

Check this case which is also a desk. Has great water cooling support and is unique.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112560

 

[DSzymborski]

If you're looking for an example on why we call what you want to do overbuilt and overexpensive, look no farther than your original choice of a Threadripper. Those are terrific chips, if you're primarily interested in higher-end workstation functions. A Threadripper is actually a worse gaming CPU than the 8700k that you can purchase for less than half its price. Same goes for an i9. And there's approximately zero chance that you need 64 GB of RAM.

Everyone here has built a lot of systems and when we see a system ludicrously overpriced for the goal, we're going to say something. We're not here to be limited to only the question that is asked and most of us will look at the entirety of the situation.

And you were able to guess my goal by simply reading "mostly for gaming"?
A more constructive way to answer would be:


Hey man, I read that your primary goal is gaming. If that's true you don't need all that power, you could just go:
bla bla bla (list of the components).
As for Threadripper, that's a workstation cpu, which is not suited for gaming pcs. If you plan to do only gaming you may want to get back to a Ryzen 7 or something, especially because such a cpu may even perform worse than a cpu built for gaming. Otherwise if you plan to video render, 3d manipulate and so on, you might want to go for Threadripper or i9.
As for the ram, I do 4k video renders, and I use up to 24gb of rams, meaning you won't ever need 64gb.. Unless you are doing ramdisks or heavy virtualization.
With such a budget you could go for a 4000$ gaming rig, which will perform as good as your original request asked for. You may consider spending an additional 1000-2000$ for bling and peripherals, even if I don't suggest so/agree on that.


Isn't this better?
You would be sharing your knowledge about those topics with me (and everyone else reading), you would be asserting your own point of view, while being helpful.

I don't want to doubt your (or any other else's) work, I value it, and I am sure you could be very helpful to me. But I wonder why most people are just writing me I'm wasting my money, but not why I am and what could I do to optimize my build.

There are tons of ways. Getting an 8700k instead of a Threadripper. Not getting 64 GB of RAM.

I believe in an efficiency of words. But I'm unfollowing this one, given how you have replied to constructive criticism. I've done enough of these to be able to tell the difference between those that want help and those who just want people to praise how much money they can drop.

Best of luck to you.

 

[King Dranzer]

If you wanna get best experience for the budget check the above build I listed.

1.Best CPU for Gaming.(Intel i7-8700K)
2.Best GPU for Gaming. (After you upgrade to GTX1180)
3.Meaningful and more than enough amount of Memory(32GB). 64GB RAM will not be utilized even 50% which is a waste.
4.NVIDIA BFGD monitor(get one when launched, coming soon) big screen gaming experience in HDR.
5.Top notch audio experience get you immersed into gaming session.

This is all you need to get best gaming experience out of a build. Water cooling or choosing a custom case and RGB lighting all these are secondary. Performance comes first choose the components wisely which will give you best performance only after that spend as much as you want to make the build look good and unique.

We are saying that you are not utilizing the money correctly(which is bit different than saying "you are wasting your money"). As we explained above for Gaming Threadripper is not the best option. Threadripper is usually recommended for builds which are used for professional work eg. If a person needs a build to do 3D modeling or Video editing or rendering scenes Threadripper and Intel i9 series is recommended. When it comes to gaming Intel i7-8700K is the best CPU. It is not the matter of money alone because here you are spending more money to get Threadripper CPU and instead of having performance increase you will get loss in performance. When it comes to memory we understand you wanna fill the maximum amount of RAM you can fit on the board. But as you can see even at load unless you are doing productive work there is no need of RAM more than 32GB as most of the time(95%+) you will not be even utilizing 32GB of RAM to its max. That is the reason we avoid spending on 64GB kit over 32GB kit.

Hope this answers all your questions.