[SOLVED] Help me decide

[striker2237]

My system died and I need to replace it before more things go wrong (B1&B2 are dead, whole channel is unusable) and I have two leading setups to replace my old system. I have not been following the PC world too closely for the last 3-4 years so I am not totally certain if these are well matched, one build is a direct upgrade of my current one and the other is an AMD alternative that I am willing to give a try.

First one, Intel
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-64gb...3200c16-_-20-236-400-_-Product&quicklink=true
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E168131...or_x299-_-13-144-274-_-Product&quicklink=true
https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i..._10900x-_-19-118-111-_-Product&quicklink=true

Second, AMD
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-64gb...3446c14-_-20-236-528-_-Product&quicklink=true
https://www.newegg.com/msi-prestige...reation-_-13-144-258-_-Product&quicklink=true
https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-9-3900x/p/N82E16819113103

Both will receive dual/triple 512gig NVME Samsung 970s and a pair of 2080tis and I will be replacing the water cooler since it's almost 6.5 years old now. I am leaning toward Intel since that is what I am used to but if there is a good reason to go AMD I will

 

[extreme_noob]

What are you using the system for?

 

[Koekieezz]

Ryzen 9 3900X is leading on productivity yet i9 10900k is leading on gaming if you compare one to another. If you play games only go for i9, yet if you do productivity (such as streaming, rendering, editing video, etc.) go for Ryzen 9.

 

[Vyrvelata]

If you have the money and the reason you could go with 3950X...has no answer from Intel side!
Also especially 10900x as you can see is a f*** 165W Oven... so for some people that is big problem, overall, i think 10900x is great CPU for everything also, and you will be rocking every game for quite a long time.

 

[striker2237]

What are you using the system for?

If you have the money and the reason you could go with 3950X...has no answer from Intel side!
Also especially 10900x as you can see is a f*** 165W Oven... so for some people that is big problem, overall, i think 10900x is great CPU for everything also, and you will be rocking every game for quite a long time.

I use it mainly for gaming looking at overall time spent on it but it sees editing and other workstation tasks as well. Power use is not a concern since my current system uses 850+ most of the time anyway

 

[extreme_noob]

Ryzen 9 3900X is leading on productivity yet i9 10900k is leading on gaming if you compare one to another. If you play games only go for i9, yet if you do productivity (such as streaming, rendering, editing video, etc.) go for Ryzen 9.

To add to this, the 10900X listed in the original post is a pretty bad buy unless you really need those extra PCIe lanes. And the 10900K beats the 3900X in some adobe workloads. I definitely recommend checking out reviews.

 

[extreme_noob]

I use it mainly for gaming looking at overall time spent on it but it sees editing and other workstation tasks as well. Power use is not a concern since my current system uses 850+ most of the time anyway

Didnt see your reply there, sorry.
For performance, the 10900K performs better than the 10900X for basically everything:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYvz3dObHws
, but it has less PCIe lanes. the 10900K has 16 lanes available, meaning your dual 2080 Tis will be bottlenecked a little bit since they'll have 8 lanes each. The 10900X won't have this issue. As for the Ryzen option, the 3900X has 24 pcie lanes, but 4 are dedicated to the chipset anyways, so the lanes are split into 2x8 again.
The 3900X beats the 10900K/X in most workstation workloads, but the 10900K matches or sometimes surpasses it in some adobe workloads. And of course, the 10900K performs better in gaming.

So the answer to "what to get" isn't too clear, each CPU has its strengths and weaknesses.

 

[striker2237]

Yeah that's my dilemma currently, I want full lanes for everything and I also need a few for the NVME sticks and sound card, I'm not certain if the 3900 will run into issues there even with gen4 pcie

I use photoshop and premier and also capture work so again it's unclear what the better option would be. The 10900k is ruled out already since it's just plain worse than a 3900/3950

 

[extreme_noob]

Yeah that's my dilemma currently, I want full lanes for everything and I also need a few for the NVME sticks and sound card, I'm not certain if the 3900 will run into issues there even with gen4 pcie

I use photoshop and premier and also capture work so again it's unclear what the better option would be. The 10900k is ruled out already since it's just plain worse than a 3900/3950

3900X will be limited to 2x8 for the 2080 Tis, and that leaves 4 lanes leftover for one nvme, and I guess you can run the sound card through chipset. Even though the 3900X can use gen4 pcie, the 2080 Tis cant, so they will still be limited in bandwidth. 10900X doesnt have that issue. If you're willing to spend more and get a higher end X299 chip, Im fairly certain that would match if not beat a 3900/3950X in those productivity workloads, although they would be more expensive for sure. And at some point it will be dipping into 3rd gen threadripper pricing.
So you can either buy a 3900X/3950X, which will perform better than the intel i9 price competitors, but sacrifice on some GPU performance, or you can go intel for worse CPU price to performance, but not compromising on PCIe lanes. I don't handle those workstation tasks on a daily basis, so I can't say what is better.