Help me with my gaming pc build please, complete newcomer here

[Banana-Man]

Approximate Purchase Date: Immediately


Budget Range: £900-1000 (uk prices please)


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, surfing the internet


Are you buying a monitor: No


Parts to Upgrade: Its a new build


Do you need to buy OS: Yes


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: I have no preference,i would appreciate advice on the best sites to use, i am in the uk though so not newegg


Location: London, England


Parts Preferences: gtx 1060, intel i5


Overclocking: Maybe


SLI or Crossfire: No


Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080


Additional Comments: This is a follow on from another thread i created, a couple of builds were posted in there so i will paste them into here


Why Are You Upgrading: My laptop is very old and slow, i can't run any modern games on it, this will be my first gaming pc.

For 1k pounds you can fit a 1070 in there
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£181.90 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H170M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£95.81 @ More Computers)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£74.74 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£44.98 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card (£393.29 @ Aria PC)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£87.99 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£50.51 @ CCL Computers)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer (£12.10 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£82.98 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £1024.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-31 22:42 BST+0100

A 1060 would bring the price down lower.

Not just you mate.

I'll post this little build here (I'm on mobile & if I forget it'll disappear)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£181.90 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock H170A-X1/3.1 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£76.55 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£32.87 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Kingston HyperX Fury 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£59.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£45.78 @ Misco UK)
Power Supply: Antec 550W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer (£12.10 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£82.98 @ Ebuyer)
Other: KFA2 GEFORCE GTX 1070 EX OC 8192MB GDDR5 PCI-EXPRESS GRAPHICS CARD (£379.99)
Other: DEEPCOOL KENDOMEN TI Computer Case (£59.99)
Total: £982.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-31 23:23 BST+0100

Thanks to both of you for those those builds, I am not sure i really need a 1070, 1060 seems like a pretty strong card so i would rather save the money and get that, or put the money towards improving the rest of the system if necessary. I wasn't planning on having an optical drive in the system as i didn't think i would need one, is there a reason why i should definitely have one? I notice that neither of you included a network card in your builds, is wifi capability built into the selected motherboards?

 

[Isokolon]

do you have a lot of CD-ROMs? if you don't have any, you probably won't need one
seeing as the optical drive is 12 pounds - why not just go for it
a 1060 is enough for 1080p gaming, a 1070 is nice if you can afford it or plan on a 144Hz or 1440p display in the future.

 

[FD2Raptor]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£213.34 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£32.49 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£105.99 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Kingston FURY 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£69.36 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Plextor M7V 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£63.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.96 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card (£245.56 @ More Computers)
Case: Inwin 503 BLACK ATX Mid Tower Case (£57.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: FSP Group Hydro G 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£96.77 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM 64-bit (£44.00 @ Amazon UK)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link Archer T4U USB 3.0 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter (£19.14 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £992.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-01 13:42 BST+0100

An overclock-able i5 with a solid cooler that is ready to back you up with all the CPU performance you need for when you want to move up the resolution/refresh rates.
And a motherboard that can support overclocking that i5, is equipped with one of the best integrated sound system, and can support for SLI with later higher tier card upgrade further into the life of the system.
With a good 650W 80+Gold Fully modular PSU that is capable of support the upgrade to GTX1070/1080-tier card.
All color coordinated to black&red build (except for the HDD/SSD).

And this build does include the DDR4 memory, whole 16GB of them

 

[sadams04]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£181.90 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£65.01 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£34.81 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sandisk Z400s 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£67.13 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.96 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB SC GAMING Video Card (£237.99 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Deepcool DUKASE ATX Mid Tower Case (£34.98 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£50.51 @ CCL Computers)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-118CB/BEBE DVD/CD Drive (£12.98 @ Novatech)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£82.98 @ Ebuyer)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter (£23.04 @ BT Shop)
Total: £835.29

 

[logainofhades]

I still say 1070 is a better idea, as it will last longer, before you need to upgrade.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£181.90 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte G1.Sniper B7 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£78.34 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£62.99 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.99 @ Novatech)
Video Card: Palit GeForce GTX 1070 8GB JetStream Video Card (£379.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£59.95 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£70.97 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer (£12.10 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£82.98 @ Ebuyer)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter (£23.04 @ BT Shop)
Total: £994.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-01 14:50 BST+0100

 

[FD2Raptor]

I still say 1070 is a better idea, as it will last longer, before you need to upgrade.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£181.90 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte G1.Sniper B7 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£78.34 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£62.99 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.99 @ Novatech)
Video Card: Palit GeForce GTX 1070 8GB JetStream Video Card (£379.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£59.95 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£70.97 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer (£12.10 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£82.98 @ Ebuyer)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter (£23.04 @ BT Shop)
Total: £994.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-01 14:50 BST+0100

Really, what's up with you 1070 people and forgetting RAM?

 

[Banana-Man]

thanks for these builds guys, time for me to do a little research into these parts and look at some reviews...

 

[madmatt30]

Didn't forget my ram ;-)

 

[logainofhades]

Oops, got in a hurry. That's what I get for posting at work. :lol:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£181.90 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte G1.Sniper B7 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£78.34 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£34.81 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£62.99 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.99 @ Novatech)
Video Card: Palit GeForce GTX 1070 8GB JetStream Video Card (£379.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case (£25.98 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£70.97 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer (£12.10 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£82.98 @ Ebuyer)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter (£23.04 @ BT Shop)
Total: £995.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-01 19:09 BST+0100

 

[Banana-Man]

my friend recommended me this build, let me know what you think:


CPU: AMD FX-9590 4.7GHz 8-Core OEM/Tray Processor (£164.84 @ More Computers)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£70.88 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£122.05 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston HyperX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£56.52 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Samsung 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£60.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£57.54 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card (£258.30 @ More Computers)
Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case (£46.31 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£62.99 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224FB/RSMS DVD/CD Writer (£17.81 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£82.98 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £1001.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-05 19:40 BST+0100

 

[Isokolon]

- the CPU is old and outdated. even an i3 will outperform it on most tasks
- the H60 provides no edge over a halfway decent aircooler besides being noisier
- the PSU is utter garbage
- the video card is no match for a 1070

for that price it's wiser to get a PS4 and burn the difference in money.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£181.90 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte G1.Sniper B7 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£78.34 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£34.81 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£62.99 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.99 @ Novatech)
Video Card: Palit GeForce GTX 1070 8GB JetStream Video Card (£379.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case (£25.98 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£70.97 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer (£12.10 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£82.98 @ Ebuyer)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter (£23.04 @ BT Shop)
Total: £995.08

this build is by far superior
if you can pick up 16GB RAM and maybe a better case
but for 1000pounds that build is excellent

and if you buy this now and decide the CPU cooler is too noisy, get a 15-25pounds cooler for christmas

this build would outperform the one your friend recommended by...idk... 100%?

 

[logainofhades]

FX 9590 is a horrible CPU. It is hard to keep cool, and in gaming, it can get beat by an i3 6100. Outdated tech, on a dead platform. I would not recommend on. Even if you were to go with an AMD build, which is not recommended at this time, that CPU would still be one to avoid. Every system, that was suggested here, would outperform that one.

 

[madmatt30]

Exactly what everyone else has said , you have the budget for an i5 & a 1070 if you want.
That cannot be beaten performance wise for your budget.
Dropping to a 1060 takes you down to your lower £900 limit & there's nothing you won't be able play at high settings with great fps.

 

[Banana-Man]

thanks so much guys that is very helpful, i'll stick with an i5 and either a 1060 or 1070 then. the 1070 will push me above £1000 if i want a decent case aswell, so i have to decide if i want to spend that much...

 

[logainofhades]

Case is cheaper to replace later, and has 0 influence on FPS, unless it has very bad airflow, causing components to overheat. Performance should always take priority over fluff.

 

[Banana-Man]

Case is cheaper to replace later, and has 0 influence on FPS, unless it has very bad airflow, causing components to overheat. Performance should always take priority over fluff.

yeah i agree with that

 

[Banana-Man]

Oops, got in a hurry. That's what I get for posting at work. :lol:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£181.90 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte G1.Sniper B7 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£78.34 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£34.81 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£62.99 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.99 @ Novatech)
Video Card: Palit GeForce GTX 1070 8GB JetStream Video Card (£379.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case (£25.98 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£70.97 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer (£12.10 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£82.98 @ Ebuyer)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter (£23.04 @ BT Shop)
Total: £995.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-01 19:09 BST+0100

i notice you didn't add a cpu cooler to the build, i was under the impression that it was important to replace the stock cooler with a better quality one, is that necessary?

 

[Isokolon]

the stock cooler will keep the CPU sufficiently cool
of course aftermarket coolers will potentially keep it cooler and do so quieter

so no it's not necessary. it can be nice though depending on what matters to you.

 

[Niklas_13]

Oops, got in a hurry. That's what I get for posting at work. :lol:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£181.90 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte G1.Sniper B7 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£78.34 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£34.81 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£62.99 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.99 @ Novatech)
Video Card: Palit GeForce GTX 1070 8GB JetStream Video Card (£379.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case (£25.98 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£70.97 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer (£12.10 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£82.98 @ Ebuyer)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter (£23.04 @ BT Shop)
Total: £995.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-01 19:09 BST+0100

i notice you didn't add a cpu cooler to the build, i was under the impression that it was important to replace the stock cooler with a better quality one, is that necessary?

The stock cooler will be fine the non K cpu is not a OCing one and the manufacture wont give you a crap cooler to have there cpu burn up and they have to replace it.

 

[Banana-Man]

ok thanks

 

[Banana-Man]

hi guys, just an update here. take a look at my build here, i think all the parts i have selected are ok: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/tfKR4C

i just have a problem selecting the motherboard and memory, i don't even know where to begin when it comes to selecting a motherboard so any advice you can offer would be much appreciated. i noticed that the memory sticks come with different memory speeds, i have chosen 2666 speed, should i go lower or higher on the memory speed? also another thing, there is a compatibility note on partpicker which says the following:
''The NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case supports video cards up to 305mm long, but video cards over 230mm may block drive bays. Since the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB G1 Gaming Video Card is 278mm long, some drive bays may not be usable.'' Do i need to worry about this or just ignore it?

 

[madmatt30]

You can remove the hard drive centre cage to give pretty much unlimited GPU space

All good but I'd swap the ram to 2x8gb, fast becoming the norm now


Speed is inconsequential mate , h170 ,only supports max 2133
Faster ram will down clock, just look for the cheapest

 

[Isokolon]

your board can only handle DDR4-2133 MHz. so buying 2666MHz RAM will run at 2133MHz.
so get the RAM rated at 2133 MHz or 2400 MHz (sometimes cheaper for some reason)

the Phantom comes with 2 drive cages.
you might need to remove one of these
leaving you able to store 3 HDDs/SSDs

 

[Banana-Man]

thanks guys, i will bump up the ram to 16gb. the motherboard i have selected only has one DVI-D port, no HDMI or DP port which seems a bit disappointing to me, max memory speed is also a bit low at 2133. I think I am going to spend a bit more to get a better motherboard, I am looking at the ASRock Z170 Extreme4 which seems like a very nice motherboard, what do you guys think...

 

[madmatt30]

Ram speed isn't going to make 'that' much difference .
Bear in mind last years standard was ddr3 1600 or 1866

Mb video outs make little odds , you'll be using the GPU video connections.

Should you really want to up the board the extreme 4 is a decent one