HELP....my new laptop run all games at 30 fps!!!

[kita1020]

hey all

When i try to ran Blur on my laptop (witchs my laptop meet the recomended specs on canyourunit) i play with 15-20 fps with eather very low or very high graphics option and other games as well like sleeping dogs - darksiders- league of legends - max payne 3 - borderlands 2 and batman arkam origns...... i have the lastest radeon driver (14.4) and netframe work 4.0 and directx 11 and C++ all versions and nyvida phyX

MY SPECS :
1.AMD Quad-Core A4-5000 APU with Radeon HD 8330 Graphics (1.5 GHz, 2 MB cache)
2.4 GB 1600 MHz DDR3L SDRAM (1 x 4 GB)
3.AMD Radeon HD 8330/8570M Dual GPU (1 GB DDR3 dedicated)

 

[Rationale]

That sounds normal for that laptop.

 

[Vynavill]

First of all, let's make things clearer:

- Anything is completely normal for a non-gaming laptop. The only way you're going to achieve good results on a laptop, at high settings with the latest games, is going to have it specced for gaming, unless the game is based off an improved re-used technology (see Castlevania : Lords of Shadow 2; if you can run the former episode, you can most definetly run the latter).

- Nvidia PhysX is what the name implies, an Nvidia-powered technology. If you have an AMD video card, it'll fall back to the CPU with, as for all I know, legacy drivers based off Ageia PhysX. Still, they're so heavy and run so bad that you're better leaving them off, unless you own a decently overclocked AMD octa-core or i7. Some games might require you to have PhysX installed, but they won't use them fully anyway if you have an AMD card.

- You don't have a dual GPU, you have two completely different GPUs.
You have an HD 8570M as the main GPU, which is not too weak, but neither strong enough to handle most games at high settings/resolutions. That includes Sleeping Dogs, Darksiders (1, you should be able to handle 2 at low settings, as the console port was utter garbage...), Max Payne 3, Borderlands 2 and Arkham Origins. The card should be able to handle Borderlands 2 at low settings and aim for 60Fps, MAYBE Darksiders, but you're pretty much stuck with the others.
Then, there's the integrated GPU that comes with your AMD APU, which is nothing else than extremely weak and even worse than your main one.

With this said, laptops usually have software switches somewhere which decide what GPU the computer has to use. You need to look for that, and either tell it to always use your main GPU (usually dubbed "High performance chip" or something like that), or add an exception for every game you're going to play.
Even so, the GPU is not so bad for low-detail gaming and/or retrogaming, but that APU is going to slow you down a lot IMO...
Forcing it to use the 8570M will help only to some extent, so don't expect miracles.

 

[Rationale]

First of all, let's make things clearer:

- Anything is completely normal for a non-gaming laptop. The only way you're going to achieve good results on a laptop, at high settings with the latest games, is going to have it specced for gaming, unless the game is based off an improved re-used technology (see Castlevania : Lords of Shadow 2; if you can run the former episode, you can most definetly run the latter).

- Nvidia PhysX is what the name implies, an Nvidia-powered technology. If you have an AMD video card, it'll fall back to the CPU with, as for all I know, legacy drivers based off Ageia PhysX. Still, they're so heavy and run so bad that you're better leaving them off, unless you own a decently overclocked AMD octa-core or i7. Some games might require you to have PhysX installed, but they won't use them fully anyway if you have an AMD card.

- You don't have a dual GPU, you have two completely different GPUs.
You have an HD 8570M as the main GPU, which is not too weak, but neither strong enough to handle most games at high settings/resolutions. That includes Sleeping Dogs, Darksiders (1, you should be able to handle 2 at low settings, as the console port was utter garbage...), Max Payne 3, Borderlands 2 and Arkham Origins. The card should be able to handle Borderlands 2 at low settings and aim for 60Fps, MAYBE Darksiders, but you're pretty much stuck with the others.
Then, there's the integrated GPU that comes with your AMD APU, which is nothing else than extremely weak and even worse than your main one.

With this said, laptops usually have software switches somewhere which decide what GPU the computer has to use. You need to look for that, and either tell it to always use your main GPU (usually dubbed "High performance chip" or something like that), or add an exception for every game you're going to play.
Even so, the GPU is not so bad for low-detail gaming and/or retrogaming, but that APU is going to slow you down a lot IMO...
Forcing it to use the 8570M will help only to some extent, so don't expect miracles.

^All of this. I didn't have the patience to type it. +1

 

[kita1020]

First of all, let's make things clearer:

- Anything is completely normal for a non-gaming laptop. The only way you're going to achieve good results on a laptop, at high settings with the latest games, is going to have it specced for gaming, unless the game is based off an improved re-used technology (see Castlevania : Lords of Shadow 2; if you can run the former episode, you can most definetly run the latter).

- Nvidia PhysX is what the name implies, an Nvidia-powered technology. If you have an AMD video card, it'll fall back to the CPU with, as for all I know, legacy drivers based off Ageia PhysX. Still, they're so heavy and run so bad that you're better leaving them off, unless you own a decently overclocked AMD octa-core or i7. Some games might require you to have PhysX installed, but they won't use them fully anyway if you have an AMD card.

- You don't have a dual GPU, you have two completely different GPUs.
You have an HD 8570M as the main GPU, which is not too weak, but neither strong enough to handle most games at high settings/resolutions. That includes Sleeping Dogs, Darksiders (1, you should be able to handle 2 at low settings, as the console port was utter garbage...), Max Payne 3, Borderlands 2 and Arkham Origins. The card should be able to handle Borderlands 2 at low settings and aim for 60Fps, MAYBE Darksiders, but you're pretty much stuck with the others.
Then, there's the integrated GPU that comes with your AMD APU, which is nothing else than extremely weak and even worse than your main one.

With this said, laptops usually have software switches somewhere which decide what GPU the computer has to use. You need to look for that, and either tell it to always use your main GPU (usually dubbed "High performance chip" or something like that), or add an exception for every game you're going to play.
Even so, the GPU is not so bad for low-detail gaming and/or retrogaming, but that APU is going to slow you down a lot IMO...
Forcing it to use the 8570M will help only to some extent, so don't expect miracles.

ok i get it ..... so i need to make all my games on high performance on catalyst control (thats the 8570M the strong GPU) and yes mate when i try dat i found all my games is allready on high preformance option so thanks anyway for the reply iguess it was a bad idea of buying an amd i doubt it in the beginng.... the problem is my laptop DO get the recomended specs for Blur on canyourunit and it runs on 10 fps that what makes me realy crazy anyway thanks again

 

[Vynavill]

In all honesty, I've learned to my own personal expense that anything out there telling you "required this, recommended that" is usually far from reality, especially the recommended requirements written on the back cover of the game's box. Probably the only one getting SLIGHTLY close to reality is "Game Debate". Google and bookmark, if you like; pretty easy to find and very useful most of the times .

You might also want to check energy saving settings on your Windows' control panel. If you haven't done so already, switch them to high-performance. It will probably bring down the time it lasts under battery operation, but it will run a bit better.

As per the fact it's AMD, only the APU is a letdown on that laptop, and also probably the main reason why you can't run blur decently. An 8570M may not be a performance champion, but it can still hold its ground very nicely out there.

 

[Rationale]

In all honesty, I've learned to my own personal expense that anything out there telling you "required this, recommended that" is usually far from reality, especially the recommended requirements written on the back cover of the game's box. Probably the only one getting SLIGHTLY close to reality is "Game Debate". Google and bookmark, if you like; pretty easy to find and very useful most of the times .
.

Yep. Recommended specs are seemingly chosen at random. o_o
Game Debate isn't completely accurate either though.

From the front page of Steam, for example, DayZ recommended either an i5-2300 or a Phenom II 940. However, the i5-2300 is capable of about 50-70% higher game performance than a Phenom II 940. So... lol. Pretty much chosen at random.

 

[Trustdesa]

30 FPS for a non gaming laptop is ok... you could build yourself a nice Mini ITX computer if you don't like the "more bulky" counterpart.