Help needed - very early wand of wishing

[James]

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In article <1113955679.829939.272380@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
John H. <JohnWH@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
>Wow, been up one day and there's 18 replies?!

You should see how it is on IRC. Get in a situation, and as many people
look at your game and kibitz.

Ususally by the time a question is fully answered on the newsgroup, the
game is long past the situation (or ended...)

 

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John Campbell wrote:

> jorge estrada wrote:
>> John Campbell wrote:
>>
>>>The OP specified that his character is a monk. Monks and body
>>>armor don't get along. It's doable late-game, but early on, it's
>>>not really an option.
>>>
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>> I suggested it in combination with the kick command, but it seems
>> most people don't like to do that. I do admit that pressing K all
>> the time for combat can become a pain in the ass sometimes.
>
> I wasn't aware that kicking avoids the monk body armor penalty,
> but I've tried kicking a few times lately for other reasons (trying
> to preserve weaponless conduct while using Magicbane for MR, for
> example), and decided it's not really practical. For one thing, it
> wakes sleeping monsters in the vicinity. More importantly, though,
> it doesn't seem to do as much damage as regular weaponless

That depends what you kick and what the enchantment on your boots are
(they don't need to be kicking boots.) Thick skinned monsters don't
take as much damage. Overall though on average, the damage comes out
to the same. Do a google search as someone in the past did look at
the source and told the group exactly what happens (bruce Labbate i
think)

> attacking. None of my monks have happened to get stethoscopes, so I
> haven't got hard numbers for it, and I've been too lazy to dive into
> the source to check it, but - except for the one who got lucky and
> found kicking boots (huh, never thought I'd use the words "lucky"
> and "kicking boots" together in a sentence) - it seems to take a lot
> longer to kill things by kicking.

Also, even when you don't have armor there are things that have to
high an AC which can't be hit normally but can be hit with the kick
command. Think lvl 3 barb vs a ghost.

However, we were talking about a low level monk with an early wish.
Even if kicking does less damage it still allows you to do decent
damage while wearing GSDM and a shield and you still can get the
stunning special attack. Kicking will also exercise martial arts so
you don't have to worry about not advancing it.

Jorge