Help! P4 upgrade problem

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If it was running hot, most likely your CPU fan has failed,
reinstalling the OS does not fix the fan.


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"Bobby" <bobby@europe.com> wrote in message
news:2v6edbF2fksaiU1@uni-berlin.de...
|I did as one or two of you suggested and made the CD/DVD
drive a boot
| (master) device on its own channel (IDE1 - I left the HD
on IDE0).
|
| It booted from the Windows CD! I then installed XP SR1 and
then SP2.
| Everything was fine. Until this morning...
|
| It booted OK - but noticed that it was running hot (66-68C
once reached
| 70C - under no stress beyond Internet browsing). Then... a
reset and back to
| "Boot from CD:" and a hang! I couldn't believe it.
|
| So I'm back to square one. And the mobos going back to the
shop - along with
| the CPU. I've read of Prescott's running hot and this rig
seems jinxed.
|
| Bobby
|
|
| "Bobby" <bobby@europe.com> wrote in message
| news:2v200qF2cn0e7U1@uni-berlin.de...
| > I've had hardware problems on-and-off for some time now.
So I took the
| > plunge today and replaced my Athlon 2000 system with a
new Pentium
| > (Prescot) system.
| >
| > I bought a new motherboard (Abit), processor (Prescot P4
at 3GHz) and
| > memory (512Mb of DDR3200).
| >
| > I managed to install the new mobo, CPU and memory
without problems (I've
| > done a few). But I have problems...
| >
| > My PC reaches the POST OK and everything checks OK (I
can also access the
| > BIOS) but then nothing.
| >
| > Windows XP (SP2) tries to boot but the system resets
when I reach the
| > Windows logo.
| >
| > I tried to boot from CD (to re-install Windows) but the
PC hangs when I
| > get the message: "Boot from CD:".
| >
| > One strange thing. The first message I get is:
"Verifying DMI pool
| > data..." and some times I get "success" and other times
I get nothing
| > before it tries to boot from CD (and fails). Is this
normal?
| >
| > Help! I've tried everything including resetting the
BIOS. I've checked all
| > of the cables too. Everything seems to be fine - but the
damn thing will
| > not boot.
| >
| > BTW I have two lights on the mobo - a green one when a
power cable is
| > connected and a red one (according to the manual this
simply means that my
| > system is switched on). Should this LED be red or green?
| >
| > Thanks in anticipation.
| >
| > Bobby
| >
|
|

 

[Bobby]

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If the CPU fan failed, my system would run more than hot!

All fans operational.

Bobby

"Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
news:eT3Oj1MxEHA.3288@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> If it was running hot, most likely your CPU fan has failed,
> reinstalling the OS does not fix the fan.
>
>
> --
> The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
> But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
>
>
> "Bobby" <bobby@europe.com> wrote in message
> news:2v6edbF2fksaiU1@uni-berlin.de...
> |I did as one or two of you suggested and made the CD/DVD
> drive a boot
> | (master) device on its own channel (IDE1 - I left the HD
> on IDE0).
> |
> | It booted from the Windows CD! I then installed XP SR1 and
> then SP2.
> | Everything was fine. Until this morning...
> |
> | It booted OK - but noticed that it was running hot (66-68C
> once reached
> | 70C - under no stress beyond Internet browsing). Then... a
> reset and back to
> | "Boot from CD:" and a hang! I couldn't believe it.
> |
> | So I'm back to square one. And the mobos going back to the
> shop - along with
> | the CPU. I've read of Prescott's running hot and this rig
> seems jinxed.
> |
> | Bobby
> |
> |
> | "Bobby" <bobby@europe.com> wrote in message
> | news:2v200qF2cn0e7U1@uni-berlin.de...
> | > I've had hardware problems on-and-off for some time now.
> So I took the
> | > plunge today and replaced my Athlon 2000 system with a
> new Pentium
> | > (Prescot) system.
> | >
> | > I bought a new motherboard (Abit), processor (Prescot P4
> at 3GHz) and
> | > memory (512Mb of DDR3200).
> | >
> | > I managed to install the new mobo, CPU and memory
> without problems (I've
> | > done a few). But I have problems...
> | >
> | > My PC reaches the POST OK and everything checks OK (I
> can also access the
> | > BIOS) but then nothing.
> | >
> | > Windows XP (SP2) tries to boot but the system resets
> when I reach the
> | > Windows logo.
> | >
> | > I tried to boot from CD (to re-install Windows) but the
> PC hangs when I
> | > get the message: "Boot from CD:".
> | >
> | > One strange thing. The first message I get is:
> "Verifying DMI pool
> | > data..." and some times I get "success" and other times
> I get nothing
> | > before it tries to boot from CD (and fails). Is this
> normal?
> | >
> | > Help! I've tried everything including resetting the
> BIOS. I've checked all
> | > of the cables too. Everything seems to be fine - but the
> damn thing will
> | > not boot.
> | >
> | > BTW I have two lights on the mobo - a green one when a
> power cable is
> | > connected and a red one (according to the manual this
> simply means that my
> | > system is switched on). Should this LED be red or green?
> | >
> | > Thanks in anticipation.
> | >
> | > Bobby
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

 

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Running hot has a reason and it isn't fixed by reinstalling
the OS. Bad thermal compound, a dirty heat sink, something
physical.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


"Bobby" <bobby@europe.com> wrote in message
news:2v6mgcF2g0pqsU1@uni-berlin.de...
| If the CPU fan failed, my system would run more than hot!
|
| All fans operational.
|
| Bobby
|
| "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote
in message
| news:eT3Oj1MxEHA.3288@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| > If it was running hot, most likely your CPU fan has
failed,
| > reinstalling the OS does not fix the fan.
| >
| >
| > --
| > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
| > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| >
| >
| > "Bobby" <bobby@europe.com> wrote in message
| > news:2v6edbF2fksaiU1@uni-berlin.de...
| > |I did as one or two of you suggested and made the
CD/DVD
| > drive a boot
| > | (master) device on its own channel (IDE1 - I left the
HD
| > on IDE0).
| > |
| > | It booted from the Windows CD! I then installed XP SR1
and
| > then SP2.
| > | Everything was fine. Until this morning...
| > |
| > | It booted OK - but noticed that it was running hot
(66-68C
| > once reached
| > | 70C - under no stress beyond Internet browsing).
Then... a
| > reset and back to
| > | "Boot from CD:" and a hang! I couldn't believe it.
| > |
| > | So I'm back to square one. And the mobos going back to
the
| > shop - along with
| > | the CPU. I've read of Prescott's running hot and this
rig
| > seems jinxed.
| > |
| > | Bobby
| > |
| > |
| > | "Bobby" <bobby@europe.com> wrote in message
| > | news:2v200qF2cn0e7U1@uni-berlin.de...
| > | > I've had hardware problems on-and-off for some time
now.
| > So I took the
| > | > plunge today and replaced my Athlon 2000 system with
a
| > new Pentium
| > | > (Prescot) system.
| > | >
| > | > I bought a new motherboard (Abit), processor
(Prescot P4
| > at 3GHz) and
| > | > memory (512Mb of DDR3200).
| > | >
| > | > I managed to install the new mobo, CPU and memory
| > without problems (I've
| > | > done a few). But I have problems...
| > | >
| > | > My PC reaches the POST OK and everything checks OK
(I
| > can also access the
| > | > BIOS) but then nothing.
| > | >
| > | > Windows XP (SP2) tries to boot but the system resets
| > when I reach the
| > | > Windows logo.
| > | >
| > | > I tried to boot from CD (to re-install Windows) but
the
| > PC hangs when I
| > | > get the message: "Boot from CD:".
| > | >
| > | > One strange thing. The first message I get is:
| > "Verifying DMI pool
| > | > data..." and some times I get "success" and other
times
| > I get nothing
| > | > before it tries to boot from CD (and fails). Is this
| > normal?
| > | >
| > | > Help! I've tried everything including resetting the
| > BIOS. I've checked all
| > | > of the cables too. Everything seems to be fine - but
the
| > damn thing will
| > | > not boot.
| > | >
| > | > BTW I have two lights on the mobo - a green one when
a
| > power cable is
| > | > connected and a red one (according to the manual
this
| > simply means that my
| > | > system is switched on). Should this LED be red or
green?
| > | >
| > | > Thanks in anticipation.
| > | >
| > | > Bobby
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Cs]

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On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 07:38:08 -0600, "Jim Macklin"
<p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote:

>Running hot has a reason and it isn't fixed by reinstalling
>the OS. Bad thermal compound, a dirty heat sink, something
>physical.

Intel CPUs rarely run hot for those reasons. As a matter of fact, you
can usually run them in worse environment without ill effect. (Not
the same with AMDs)

They can run hot if they're defective or the motherboard is defective.
The OP has the right idea, IMO. Most likely a bad MB.

 

[Bobby]

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Yes, I think that it was.

I have now replaced my Abit/P4 combo with an Asus/Athlon 64 rig which is
running at 38-44C -- that 24C cooler than the Prescott.

Thanks to everyone who offered advice. My new mobo and CPU appears to be
working fine (and the Athlon 64 seems just as fast was the P4 Prescott 3.0).

Cheers.

Bobby

"CS" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news😱b0to0ptd515ldc36i3vombrtp6e0ph5jp@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 07:38:08 -0600, "Jim Macklin"
> <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote:
>
>>Running hot has a reason and it isn't fixed by reinstalling
>>the OS. Bad thermal compound, a dirty heat sink, something
>>physical.
>
> Intel CPUs rarely run hot for those reasons. As a matter of fact, you
> can usually run them in worse environment without ill effect. (Not
> the same with AMDs)
>
> They can run hot if they're defective or the motherboard is defective.
> The OP has the right idea, IMO. Most likely a bad MB.

 

[Guest]

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On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 14:15:40 -0600, CS <nomail@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 07:38:08 -0600, "Jim Macklin"
><p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote:
>
>>Running hot has a reason and it isn't fixed by reinstalling
>>the OS. Bad thermal compound, a dirty heat sink, something
>>physical.
>
>Intel CPUs rarely run hot for those reasons. As a matter of fact, you
>can usually run them in worse environment without ill effect. (Not
>the same with AMDs)
>
>They can run hot if they're defective or the motherboard is defective.
>The OP has the right idea, IMO. Most likely a bad MB.

It is extremely rare for a motherboard to cause a CPU to run
hot, unless misconfigured by user or at factory. It MIGHT
misreport the temp though, or not have the power management
bugs out so it doesn't HLT-ldle the CPU properly, which
could account for the idle temp being higher, but it would
then not be nearly so much of a temp rise from pseudo-idle
to full load.

The three most common reasons for hot CPU (IMO) are:

1) Heatsink - very rough finish, defective (or low quality,
not flat) or improperly installed

2) Inadequate case airflow

3) Motherboard bios misreporting temp (higher than actual)
or HLT-Idle bug (or windows/other software putting CPU into
busy loop at higher than idle priority).