Question HELP! - PC turns off directly after the log in screen, but only after updating, maybe?

DaddyJohnny

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I've been trying to troubleshoot this PC for a couple weeks at this point. It's a Frankenstein build with extra parts I had lying around so my partner could play PC games with me, so I'm not 100% on the specs.

So, she's been able to use this PC for about 5-6 months with no problems. After this point, it would start randomly restarting. We observed this behavior while gaming because that's all she uses it for, but we didn't test to see if it turns off otherwise. After about a month of this happening, it would then start losing power, or sometimes restarting, after about 10 minutes or so of being on at all, regardless of what was happening. I thought this could be CPU temps, RAM, PSU, or the power cord fuse. Following those suggestions, I tested and replaced the RAM and PSU (Neither seemed bad, but I wanted to be sure), and also monitored the CPU temp, which got to about 70° C at most. None of this changed the restarting/loss of power.

After this point, I suspected hard drive. I replaced it, and after plugging in a Windows boot USB, it was able to stay on the install screen for at least an hour with no power problems. I installed Windows, and it lasted 3 hours on the home screen.

I updated Windows and... Without even restarting the desktop to apply updates, it once again began losing power, which now happens every time it finishes with the "signing in" Windows screen. :/

The only difference in those situations is that while diagnosing, I had it plugged into the wall, whereas while updating, it was plugged into an extension cable with other components plugged into it. Can this be a cause of this issue? I'm at such a loss and am so frustrated with it, I just want it to work for her. 🙁

I also tried some system diag with... I think it was called WMAP? I can't fully recall, I just know it was very technical and I couldn't understand a thing on it.

Any suggestions super welcome, and thank you for your time.

TL;DR: Partner's desktop loses power/restarts nearly immediately after the Windows "log in" screen, and I have already replaced the PSU, RAM, and ensured the CPU isn't overheating.
 
Well lets rule out a driver conflict or something an update might have happened to do. If you can get at least to desktop go to start in the run box type ---msconfig--- hit inter, a box will pop up and in the middle of box choose ---Diagnostic startup--- hit apply and restart computer.

See if computer stays on and let me know.
 
Well lets rule out a driver conflict or something an update might have happened to do. If you can get at least to desktop go to start in the run box type ---msconfig--- hit inter, a box will pop up and in the middle of box choose ---Diagnostic startup--- hit apply and restart computer.

See if computer stays on and let me know.
It doesn't currently make it to the desktop, so I'll need to reflash the PC, and I will attempt this, as well as get specific components tomorrow. Thank you for the ideas.
 
Also please list you system parts to help better with a solution, kind of driving blind on this side. :)
System parts are the following:
20 GB DDR3 RAM, various models
AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core CPU
Corsair VX 550 W PSU
250 GB Toshiba SSD
MSi Twin Frozr 7 GeForce GPU

Does stay on in Diagnostic Startup, but also stays on after a reflash, just as long as I don't start updating anything.
 
System parts are the following:
20 GB DDR3 RAM, various models
AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core CPU
Corsair VX 550 W PSU
250 GB Toshiba SSD
MSi Twin Frozr 7 GeForce GPU

Does stay on in Diagnostic Startup, but also stays on after a reflash, just as long as I don't start updating anything.
Hmm... After nearly 3 hours of being on, it finally restarted after the SSD started making a grinding noise. I did replace the SSD with an HDD and got this same issue before, however. :/
 
So back to the msconfig and and choose the ---Selective services--- and check the Load system services and the Load start up items and restart.

Than I say before you install any games go back to Windows updates and get them out of the way. Restart after downloads are done.

If it's staying on after updates/ restarting is all finished go into your ---Device manager--- and see if there are any yellow check marks there that need drivers.

Microsoft should put a driver for your GPU on there but go get the current Nvidia driver that they put out for your card.
 
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After nearly 3 hours of being on, it finally restarted after the SSD started making a grinding noise.

SSD's have no moving part?

Can it be a case fan or power supply fan making the grinding noise.


You can check you SSD or hard drive health with the program in the link.

It spins my head keeping up with the good or the bad models of power supplies from Corsair. Those power supplies are a heated topic on the forum. I have no idea where your Corsair VX 550 W PSU falls in the good or crap department.
 
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SSD's have no moving part?

Can it be a case fan or power supply fan making the grinding noise.


You can check you SSD or hard drive health with the program in the link.

It spins my head keeping up with the good or the bad models of power supplies from Corsair. Those power supplies are a heated topic on the forum. I have no idea where your Corsair VX 550 W PSU falls in the good or crap department.
That's what confused me! Maybe it's the disk drives, I suppose? But the grinding is random and comes *right* from where the SSD is. I also checked the SSD on CrystalDisk, which shows that it's operating similar to a brand new drive.

I'll try unplugging the disk drives and see if that changes anything, but I don't have anything else around my SSD that's receiving power.
 
So back to the msconfig and and choose the ---Selective services--- and check the Load system services and the Load start up items and restart.

Than I say before you install any games go back to Windows updates and get them out of the way. Restart after downloads are done.

If it's staying on after updates/ restarting is all finished go into your ---Device manager--- and see if there are any yellow check marks there that need drivers.

Microsoft should put a driver for your GPU on there but go get the current Nvidia driver that they put out for your card.
As for follow-up here, I will try this and update soon, thank you.

I also don't know if it's great or not, but it is the second PSU I've tried, both with the same issue, so I don't know.

My partner had also told me the restarting happens more often when she's gaming, which leads me to believe RAM or GPU, so I'm also going to try to replace the GPU and see if that changes anything.
 
SSD's have no moving part?

Can it be a case fan or power supply fan making the grinding noise.


You can check you SSD or hard drive health with the program in the link.

It spins my head keeping up with the good or the bad models of power supplies from Corsair. Those power supplies are a heated topic on the forum. I have no idea where your Corsair VX 550 W PSU falls in the good or crap department.
Now that I've finally had a chance to attempt it, I am unhappy to report that following all of the advice provided here, as well as reflashing the PC, and even trying a new GPU has done a whole whopping nothing for me.

I was able to download update files enough to have it prompt me to restart, but as soon as I restarted, it now solely boots me to the recovery screen.

I don't know what else to do, beyond just rebuilding the PC. Is there a good way for me to test the board, and see if that's the problem? 🙁
 
When you say you replaced the RAM, what *exactly* did you do? Because from the initial post, you appear to have some kind of FrankenRAM situation going; there's no way to get 20 GB with a matched kit.
You're right! I have changed the configuration to have only 1x8 RAM stick, I've made it so that I use my paired 2x4 sticks, and I've used DDR3 RAM that hasn't been in the build currently, all as separate attemps. It was a 6BG card.

Currently, 2 sticks are matching, and 2 are not.