Help Upgrading PC

[TheDignified]

Hi,

I have bought a computer which I believe was custom built and I'm not really sure what I can and can't upgrade.

I then bought a GT 610 and realised it wouldn't be enough to play games like DayZ Standalone, As I was at a budget of around £40, So after this I changed my monitor to a 32" full HD 1920×1080, after this I changed my budget to £120 and bought a GTX 750 TI 2GB, and hoped DayZ and other games would run smoothly but still they didn't, I did some research and I heard that DayZ runs mainly on the CPU not the GPU so I'm not sure if I can upgrade my my computer and whether I can change my Proccesor from a AMD to a Intel CPU.

Here are the exact refferences from where I bough all of my things, please help me:

Current GPU:
http://www.ebuyer.com/628246-asus-gtx-750-ti-2gb-gddr5-dual-dvi-hdmi-pci-e-graphics-card-gtx750ti-ph-2gd5

Old GPU:
http://www.ebuyer.com/452791-gigabyte-gt-610-2gb-gddr3-1333mhz-hdmi-dvi-d-sub-pci-e-graphics-card-gv-n610d3-2gi

Computer I bought:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400582736937?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

(Any other information is in the links)
(My CPU is: AMD QUAD CORE FX-4130 3.8 CPU)

So the main questions I need answering would be:

Can I upgrade my system from a weak AMD CPU to a high/medium end Intel CPU?
Will my mother board cause any problems?
Is my GPU good enough to run games like Dayz?
Is my CPU good enough to run games like Dayz?

Thanks for reading, and please help me.

 

[TheDignified]

@tea urchin
Aha, Well I do not have my computer available at the moment as I'm on holiday but I have sent a message to the seller to ask him.

Also sorry but I didn't mean a monitor, it's actually a TV.
http://ksa-price.com/product/sony-bravia-KDL-32W670A-32-inch-internet-tv/

 

[Neur0nauT]

You processor is a little weak to be running DayZ respectably, as you said it is quite processor intensive. If you plan on upgrading to an Intel i5, then bare in mind that you will require an entirely new motherboard to support the i5 socket also. Then you will also have to ensure that your RAM will be compatible with the new motherboard too. So in effect, you are upgrading most of your system by moving from AMD to Intel processors.

 

[TheDignified]

Ohh, Well thanks for the info, I'll make sure to not buy another computer without asking the proffesionals, but the point is I already bought it so I might as well make the best of what I have and upgrade it right? I mean its already mostly upgraded apart from the CPU and most likely motherboard.

 

[Neur0nauT]

Ohh, Well thanks for the info, I'll make sure to not buy another computer without asking the proffesionals, but the point is I already bought it so I might as well make the best of what I have and upgrade it right? I mean its already mostly upgraded apart from the CPU and most likely motherboard.

If you can find out what model of motherboard is installed, you may be able to upgrade the AMD processor in the future. The FX4130 is not a completely terrible processor.....check out this benchmark using a 650Ti to see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB0wUAWwq-k

 

[TheDignified]

Well the guys said its a am3+ board, Not too sure what to make of that.

 

[Neur0nauT]

Well the guys said its a am3+ board, Not too sure what to make of that.

You should be able to find out what model it is if you open your case and check see if the model number is printed on the mainboard somewhere, or it may tell you what it is within the system BIOS.

Were you supplied with a motherboard manual at all? Once you find out, then you can check what AMD processors it can support for possible future upgrading.

You can see from that benchmark that I posted earlier that the processor runs Tomb Raider in Ultra settings pretty well alongside a 650Ti so you should be ok since you have a 750Ti in there. Just try lowering some of DayZ's settings, particularly the view distance to improve your framerate.

Not so sure about running it on a 32" TV though, you might want to get a hold of a cheap 1080p monitor for a better picture.

 

[TheDignified]

Ohh, Thanks.

Well I'm afraid I don't have access to my computer ATM, But when I do (Monday), I will update the info on here, thanks for the answers so far.

 

[TheDignified]

Hi, I'm back.

This is the motherboard I have:
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=627#dl

I have found out that the maximum I can upgrade to would be the AMD FX8350 Black Edition 8- Core, Would this really make a difference in games like dayz?

(The processor I currently have is AMD FX 4130).

 

[hang-the-9]

Hi, I'm back.

This is the motherboard I have:
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=627#dl

I have found out that the maximum I can upgrade to would be the AMD FX8350 Black Edition 8- Core, Would this really make a difference in games like dayz?

(The processor I currently have is AMD FX 4130).

That CPU will be a large upgrade over the 4130, even the FX 6300 will be a big increase, although the 8350 would give you even more options for quality settings. The 750 Ti is not actually the best pick in the price range, it's good for a lower power system, but if you have a good power supply there are cheaper video cards that are just as fast or faster. To change from your platform to an Intel one would mean new motherboard, new CPU and a re-installation of Windows.

You really should have checked with someone before buying the computer, seems like you are about to replace most of it which means the money you spent on it was mostly wasted, or at least the CPU.

I don't see the power supply brand or model listed which means it's likely a cheap one, nor is the hard drive listed which could also mean it's a cheap and slow one. Is it a 7200 or 5400 rpm one?

What settings are you trying to run the game on?

 

[TheDignified]

I'm not really sure about the power supply, but it is 500W, But I'm trying to run the games on at least Medium Settings.

Also this is the HDD, but I cannot find the RPM of it:
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-ST1000DM003-1CH162-306-CC49-1TB/dp/B00QJE8KJO

Also, when I play games likes dayz or most other games, when my CPU fan slows down and gets less noisy, my computer has a HUGE lag spike, I have no idea what causes this, but maybe if I changed the bios settings to keep the fan at high speed at all times, this wouldn't happen?

 

[hang-the-9]

I'm not really sure about the power supply, but it is 500W, But I'm trying to run the games on at least Medium Settings.

Also this is the HDD, but I cannot find the RPM of it:
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-ST1000DM003-1CH162-306-CC49-1TB/dp/B00QJE8KJO

Also, when I play games likes dayz or most other games, when my CPU fan slows down and gets less noisy, my computer has a HUGE lag spike, I have no idea what causes this, but maybe if I changed the bios settings to keep the fan at high speed at all times, this wouldn't happen?

If you want to play newer games at medium, you need to get a faster CPU. You can probably just upgrade the video card to play on Low. The fan speed on it's own will not change the speeds, it slows down because the CPU is not hot enough to run it. With a faster CPU or lower settings you won't see those lag periods.

 

[TheDignified]

I'm not really sure about the power supply, but it is 500W, But I'm trying to run the games on at least Medium Settings.

Also this is the HDD, but I cannot find the RPM of it:
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-ST1000DM003-1CH162-306-CC49-1TB/dp/B00QJE8KJO

Also, when I play games likes dayz or most other games, when my CPU fan slows down and gets less noisy, my computer has a HUGE lag spike, I have no idea what causes this, but maybe if I changed the bios settings to keep the fan at high speed at all times, this wouldn't happen?

If you want to play newer games at medium, you need to get a faster CPU. You can probably just upgrade the video card to play on Low. The fan speed on it's own will not change the speeds, it slows down because the CPU is not hot enough to run it. With a faster CPU or lower settings you won't see those lag periods.

Ohh, Well would the performance gain justify the price of £130 for a AMD FX 8350? Would it be worth it?
Also if I do upgrade it would I need to change my default CPU fan?

 

[hang-the-9]

I'm not really sure about the power supply, but it is 500W, But I'm trying to run the games on at least Medium Settings.

Also this is the HDD, but I cannot find the RPM of it:
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-ST1000DM003-1CH162-306-CC49-1TB/dp/B00QJE8KJO

Also, when I play games likes dayz or most other games, when my CPU fan slows down and gets less noisy, my computer has a HUGE lag spike, I have no idea what causes this, but maybe if I changed the bios settings to keep the fan at high speed at all times, this wouldn't happen?

If you want to play newer games at medium, you need to get a faster CPU. You can probably just upgrade the video card to play on Low. The fan speed on it's own will not change the speeds, it slows down because the CPU is not hot enough to run it. With a faster CPU or lower settings you won't see those lag periods.

Ohh, Well would the performance gain justify the price of £130 for a AMD FX 8350? Would it be worth it?
Also if I do upgrade it would I need to change my default CPU fan?

What's the price difference between an FX6300 and the 8350 for you? If you get the CPU it should come with a heatsink and fan. I would go for the 8350 if you can pay for it, the faster CPU will make everything faster, and although it will be a bit over the 750 Ti (so the bottleneck will go to the video card now instead of the CPU) that is not that big of an issue as the 750 Ti is still a nice card.

Comparison of the 6300 vs the 8350, if you look at the benchmarks, the 8350 is quite a bit faster. http://cpuboss.com/cpus/AMD-FX-8350-vs-AMD-FX-6300
A good rule to use when upgrading, it takes about a 25%-30% increase in speed for a person to clearly see a difference (as in you switch and go "wow, that's really faster" instead of "maybe it's faster but I can't be sure").

The Seagate drive is a 7200, but make sure you have a drive for backups, Seagate drives have had some nasty reliability issues.

 

[TheDignified]

Thanks a lot, I will save up for a 8350 then.