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Dear Community,

thank your very much for your kind attention. Would you please help me with a PC build?

My budget is 1000 USD. I'd like an AMD build (both CPU and GPU) suitable for 1080p High 60 fps gaming, twitch broascasting and video editing.

I have no clue about what CPU would be suitable. In terms of GPU, I'm thinking about a R9 390 Nitro 8GB, but I'd like to know your opinion on this matter too.

Thank you very much. Best regards,
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($167.78 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme6 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($103.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($87.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 390 8GB Nitro Video Card ($309.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.78 @ OutletPC)
Total: $999.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-18 15:05 EST-0500
 
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To be honest with you, money. The intel processors i like (i7 4790k, i7 6700k) cost >300 USD in my country, a 3rd of my budget.



 
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How about something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($167.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($116.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($66.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($87.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 390 8GB Nitro Video Card ($309.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $1014.71

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-18 15:16 EST-0500


A couple things to note; I chose a liquid cooler over an air cooler for better temps while overclocking this CPU for better temps. I myself game/record/stream and having 16gb is an ABSOLUTE must if you're multitasking when you're doing that stuff. Having a 2TB HDD for storage is absolutely blessed when it comes with storing all the footage you collect, as well as having a big SSD to allow for more space for programs such as Premiere Pro, After Effects etc. to reduce load and boot times. You can also partition a section off to be used as a scratch disk while editing; very beneficial in my experience. The Enthoo Pro M is a pretty decent Mid Tower chassis that also allows for a 5.25" expansion for a hot-swap drive in the future, Blu-Ray burner or fan/LED controller. Something that you might want to consider. I opted for an 850W PSU to potentially allow for a Crossfire setup in the future should you decide to do that in the future. This build is all about functionality while trying to maintain the future-proof integrity.

This specific parts list does exceed your $1000 USD budget by about $15 (at the time of posting) but there's plenty of variablility. For example, you could opt for a decent air cooling unit instead of the H60 shaving some cash off. you could also opt for a smaller power supply.
 
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Funny that in USA you could build a similar rig w/ a Intel cpu for $1k too.
Zen please!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170M Pro4S Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($99.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: A-Data XPG Z1 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($87.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 390 8GB Nitro Video Card ($309.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.78 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1005.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-18 15:25 EST-0500
 
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Only problem is the i5-6500 only has 4 cores, 4 threads, making it much slower than an i7-6600. Having a locked processor will also limit your performance. I have a 4690k OC'd to 4.7 and it does an alright job at rendering, but I wish I had more threads to employ. In this respect alone, I believe the FX-8350 would trump the 6500.
 
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No it won't, and while I don't want to turn this into an AMD vs. Intel thread, I will say that if you research current benchmarks - the AMD FX 9590 is handily destroyed by the i3-6100. The myth of "AMD performs better because it has more cores" is simply not true.
 
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According to the following that statement is just false which is confusing to me...

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-9590+Eight-Core&id=2014
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-6100+%40+3.70GHz

The 9590 almost doubles the score of the 6100; which makes sense to me. What benchmarks are you referring to?

 
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Why must every thread turn into an AMD vs Intel thing?

The OP asked about an AMD build....so I'm going to try and get back on topic.

OP, you've mentioned prices are different in your country but gave a budget in USD. It's probably better to let us know where you will be buying components from (ie which country...which website etc). Prices can vary dramatically in different locales & the exchange rate doesn't really matter. What does is the currency you plan to buy in.

Which games are you looking to play? You're right about more cores being helpful for editing etc, and the FX-8350 is probably a good suggestion for it's pricepoint (in USD at least)
 
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That was my thought as well. I agree the 8350 would be better for rendering and recording thanks to the cores, but if it's just gaming performance you're looking at then it's literally all in Intel's court. I guess it depends on how much 'work' you're doing as opposed to gaming. If the gaming outweighs the 'work' by any amount really I'd probably get an Intel processor, especially considering that you can always upgrade to an i7 later on down the road should you choose, whereas the AMD upgrade path is pretty much nonexistent
 
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Just so you are aware, the minute you post something using cpubenchmark as a source of reference, you lose all credibility. They are the worst of the generic-mark sites and nobody with any actual experience or expertise takes a single thing from there seriously. You need REAL benchmarks from REAL usage to tell anything of note when comparing platforms. Just so you know iCompute.
 
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Intels advantage in gaming is more theoretical than actual .
Monitors refresh at 60 Hz . This is the exact same thing as 60 fps . If two computer make 60 and 160 fps respectively then all that ever appears on screen to the user is 60 fps . In one case the monitor will be randomly dropping 100 fps and never displaying them .
This means that any time you have a minimum fps of 60 you are getting everything you can on screen .
Mostly what you get by pushing higher fps is screen tearing .

And of course every benchmark gaming benchmark I have seen is in single player mode without the load of all the other players . Having extra cores really starts to pay off when the game engine can use them .

Generally you find there is no gaming advantage to either intel nor AMD . They just have different strengths .

 
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An i7 is totally unnecessary, for just gaming, though it is nice to have for video editing. Are Xeon E3 series available in your country? The 1230v3, or higher, is a great alternative to i7. Perform basically the same, just lack IGP. Even the non k i7's are suitable. Overclocking really isn't necessary, with today's Intel chips. If you do want to stick with AMD, save your money, and go with an FX 8320. I just have a hard time recommending a cpu architecture that is over 3yrs old.
 
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Thanks for your answer. I live in Colombia. I ask for a 1000 USD build for the ease of you, kind people. In my country the real amount is about 300-500 USD+ for the same build (based on the prices of local resellers), i.e. 1300 - 1500 USD. My currency is COP and my budget in that currency is 4.5 million COP.

I play games such as Wolfenstein the new order, Tomb raider (2013), The evil within. I want to play Rise of the Tomb Raider, Dark Souls 3... I think the FX-8350 might be good for gaming after reading and watching youtube videos about it, but i'd like to know if it can handle simultaneous twitch broadcasting. I also think it can hadle simple video editing (I'll become a science teacher soon and I want to create content such as videos and animations for my students).




 
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Thank you for your answer. I know what you mean. It's an old CPU for the pace of technology. The most recent AMD cpu I found was the FX-9590 but I don't know if having a CPU with a 220W TDP is a good idea. I've read mostly negative comments about heat and the need of a very good water cooler.

I read about the Xeon. I think it is good. I don't care about the integrated graphics. The problem is I have not found it in my country (Colombia) and I don't know if amazon ships it here.
 
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Thank you very much for your answer. I find this build very interesting. I'll check the price of these parts or similar ones (some brands like phanteks are not sold here). Best regards.
 
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Thank you very much for your answer and your explanations. I find this build very interesting, specially the option of future crossfire. I can't buy that case here but i'll find one similar. Best regards,
 
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Thanks for your answer. I agree with you. I don't really want to crush benchmarks. I want to have long lasting 1080p 60fps in my 60Hz screen. 1440p 144Hz 1ms reponse time etc in my country is very expensive and unnecessary (unless i win the lotto, but i never buy it ;-) ) . Best regards,
 
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Funny how OP wants an AMD build and all the Intel fanboys are out to persuade the guy to go Intel.

Try to answer OP's question without imposing your own preferences onto him. He clearly stated he wanted an AMD CPU + AMD GPU build. He didn't asked for the best of the best build.

You also don't see AMD fans such as myself trying to persuade others to go AMD. We are supposed to be here to help those who need it.

Go with SR71's build, you can't go wrong with his recommendations. Suerte Paisa.
 
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