Help with Build for gaming PC.

[TheSpecialKez]

Hey there. I am new to this but am thinking about building a PC for gaming. I've been doing some research myself but am still not 100% i've got everything that is needed.

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/TheSpecialKez/saved/q4mWGX

Can anyone see from this if there is anything else needed or if this configuration is just a bad idea for whatever reason? I am Particularly concerned about needing extra cooling/fans.

I do have an external optical disk drive so i can use that instead of a built in optical drive (at least to begin with).

Would really appreciate any help, comments and any time helping me,
Thanks.

 

[rchris]

Looks like a great build! You can always add or move fans later if you have cooling issues, but your liquid cooler will no doubt do the job.
Lately I've been seeing the Samsung 850 EVO at pretty close to the price of your 840, so you might check around about that. Great reviews for the 850 EVO.

 

[Demosthenest]

amd high end cpus are crap. 16gb of ram do the same then 8gb in gaming. Go with this instead:
çPCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/ztWfGX
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/ztWfGX/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£173.94 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£64.78 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£89.99 @ Novatech)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£57.53 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£161.94 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card (£280.00 @ Aria PC)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£79.99 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£94.99 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£72.35 @ Aria PC)
Total: £1075.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-15 22:28 GMT+0000
If you have some money to spare, grab a gtx 980 or a second gtx 970.

 

[gamer1357]

Here is a much better build for your money

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£244.94 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock 3 113.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler (£45.59 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£106.76 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£57.53 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£161.94 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 4GB Twin Frozr Video Card (£429.99 @ Ebuyer)
Case: NZXT H440 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case (£88.79 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£94.99 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£72.35 @ Aria PC)
Total: £1302.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-15 22:29 GMT+0000

 

[Demosthenest]

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-vs-AMD-FX-9590
Games do not benefit from more than 4 cores. if you want to go higher, grab an i7 4790k.

 

[martinch]

Personally, I'd switch out the CPU for an Intel i7-4790K and an Asus Z97-A motherboard (should be better on single-threaded applications). If you can't afford the 4790K, then the i7-4790 is £30 cheaper and worth a look (or the i5-4690K). I'd also drop the Samsung 840 EVO for the Crucial MX100 (they're both about as good as each other), and use the £20 saved to upgrade the GTX 770 to a GTX 970 (less heat, more powerful, more VRAM). Two 120-140mm intakes and an exhaust fan should be enough cooling, even if they're not running at full speed.

 

[Demosthenest]

Performance difference in gaming between i5 4690k and i7 4790k: about 2%. Absolutely not worth it for the money imo. When both are oced, the i5 beats it in games.

 

[gamer1357]

Performance difference in gaming between i5 4690k and i7 4790k: about 2%. Absolutely not worth it for the money imo. When both are oced, the i5 beats it in games.

I agree. As of right now the i7 and i5 show no difference in most games. However, I'm very cautious and think games will utilize more cores in the future. Considering I would keep a CPU for 3-4 years to me the i7 is a good idea. That's just my opinion.

To the OP, as of now you won't see a difference in gaming between the i5 and i7.

 

[Demosthenest]

That's what I said that if he really had money to spare he could go with the i7. I'd rather get a gtx 980 or a second gtx 970, it would imrpove gaming by a lot more.

 

[ksarex]

About the build you posted... first of all what i like:

SSD: Imho mechanichal hdd, used as a primary drive is a thing of the past now, ssd deliver incredibly better performance.
Case: Really nice quality case, lots of room for pretty much anything you need.
PSU: Relliable, vfm unit, with room for future upgrades like sli.
OS: Ok, i don't really like windows 8.1, but they are necessary
Cooler: It is a highly recommended cooler, good choice.

What i would change:
CPU(therefore Mobo): AMD 9590 , initially advertised as a beast , it dissapointed many people. Intel's single threaded performance , especially when it comes to 4 or more cores give until today the best gaming experience.
GPU: That is an easy one, with gtx 970 launched there is no reason to buy a gtx 770 for the same price.
RAM: It,s ok. but you could go cheaper and buy a 2x4gb which is sufficient(although i like the freedom 16gb gives you)

 

[The Ether Bunny]

Why AMD CPU? The Intel Core i7-4790K with the Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5 motherboard is a cheaper combination that will WAY outperform the AMD parts. Not to mention use less power and create less heat.

The Crucial M550 is cheaper than the 840 EVO and outperforms it. http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-840-Evo-250GB-vs-Crucial-M550-256GB/1594vs2000

And a GTX970 is like 10 quid more but would destroy the GTX 770 in every benchmark ever created.

Hope this helps!

 

[gamer1357]

That's what I said that if he really had money to spare he could go with the i7. I'd rather get a gtx 980 or a second gtx 970, it would imrpove gaming by a lot more.

With his budget of 1300 he can afford an i7 and a 980. That's what I recommend.

 

[Demosthenest]

Love how everyone is saying the same.

 

[gamer1357]

Love how everyone is saying the same.

lol ya. I think we should all just wait for the OP to respond.

 

[TheSpecialKez]

Love how everyone is saying the same.

lol ya. I think we should all just wait for the OP to respond.

Thanks all, will look into all the options you've mentioned and definitely change a few thing to what everyone has suggested.
Was surprised how quick i got really good answers!
Thanks again, really appreciate the much needed help and advise.

 

[sora]

That's what I said that if he really had money to spare he could go with the i7. I'd rather get a gtx 980 or a second gtx 970, it would imrpove gaming by a lot more.

True, gaming relies on the GPU more than the CPU in my opinion.