Help with new build (especially mobo)

[Joseph Idris]

I have some questions for my "future" PC.

here's what I have in mind:

ASRock Fatal1ty H87 Performance Socket 1150 Motherboard
Kingston HyperX Beast 8GB (2x4gb) DDR3 1600MHz CL9 1.65V
Intel Core I5-4440 Haswell 3.1GHz 6M LGA 1150 Quad-Core Desktop Processor
XFX ProSeries Core Edition 550W Full Wired PSU 80 Plus Bronze
ASUS GTX 650 1GB (I already have this)

I already have a case, HDD, mouse/keyboard, etc. Though, I MIGHT buy a new case.

Anyways, my questions:

1.Should I get ASRock H87 Pro4 better?
2. Is Broadwell CPUs gonna use 1150 socket? so this means I can use the same motherboard for the new broadwell cpus?
3. do you recommend that cpu? I've seen other people saying that 200-400mhz is meaningless at performance/gaming (I won't OC at all)
4. 550W good enough for this pc?
5. I know GTX 650 wont run all games on ultra, but will it run on atleast medium or high?

sorry if I asked too much. thanks! (if you have better suggestions for anything, id like to know)

 

[Maxime506]

Try to do as much as I can since I have work to do.

The Broadwell CPU DOES use 1150 socket, the only thing is Broadwell need 9 series chipset which will be backward compatible with Haswell CPUs while H87 couldn't do the same thing. (means H87, Z87 etc only stick to Haswell CPUs)

If u won't OC thats fine using i5-4440. 200-400mhz doesn't make much a difference in ur case since u have only GTX 650 gfx. (Guess its even enough for a i3-2320 CPU) GTX 650 is a bit weak since it has only 384 shaders (like a laptop GT 640M / 650M) compared with other gaming gfxs (like GTX 650 ti has 768 shaders, GTX 660 has 960 shaders, R7-260X has 896 shaders etc) but it will run new gen games or heavy-demand games in med-high with low AAs or slightly older titles in high and better AAs.

And as i5-4440 has only 70w TDP and ur gfx has only 80 something TDP, 550W PSU is way too much unless u have plans upgrade ur GPU. IMO a 400-450W PSU is suffcient unless the dollar per performance of ur PSU is good enough.

 

[Joseph Idris]

Thanks for answering.

So, H87/Z87 are only for haswell, what about H97/Z97? Could they run haswell and broadwell aswell? (I dunno)

okay then, that answers 2, 3, 4 and 5. what about the mobo?

oh and yeah I think I'm gonna get that psu cause I might upgrade my gpu in the future. (I might also try to expand my budget to buy better CPU, probably 4570-4670 non k, so that in the future i dont get any probs w/ bottleneck whatsoever..)

EDIT: I'm thinking of buying a new case, either ZALMAN Z9 Plus, or CM HAF 912. HAF 912 looks way better, but I still want your opinion 😀

 

[Maxime506]

H97/Z97 according to tomshardware.com will be designed for Broadwell and Haswell CPUs.(Please read this article: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/mainstream-gaming-z97-motherboard,3824.html, u'll find the proof.) H87/Z87, if possible, will be like H61/H67 series, whence the motherboard manufacturer will add support to Broadwell CPUs, if such CPU sell well. But not right now.

About these two mobos, I will show you both of these specifications. You shall obviously make the right call.
1. Fatality H87: http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Fatal1ty%20H87%20Performance/?cat=Specifications
2. H87 Pro4: http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H87%20Pro4/?cat=Specifications
Price difference on newegg.com is approximately $20.

If u have sufficient cash, it's only ur call to get whatever CPU suitable for you. And since u have plan upgrade your GPU, it makes sense u have a 550W PSU.

Both case looks good. Personally I would prefer the HAF 912 bcoz it's heavier (means using more material and maybe stronger, n.b.only my personal opinion). But ZALMAN Z9 supports longer graphic cards (29cm length > 27 cm length <HAF 912>)

U could learn do some readings. It's important to get vital information from that. I understand money is hard to earn and u wanna spend it carefully. Of course asking questions is always welcome in this forum (I ask questions too.), however spending time do readings can also help you be more experienced and maybe u could help your friends put up their dreaming rigs like an expert.

If u have further questions, don't hestitate.

 

[Joseph Idris]

I think I'll just wait and get a H97/Z97 board, and a haswell CPU, I think it's MUCH better to wait, so in the future I can upgrade to Broadwell without having to buy a new motherboard and all that. What do you think?

btw, I don't understand anything about mobos and the link you gave me aswell. but I think I'll go with Fatality cause it looks better ;D

(sorry for not answering in a long time, I was busy)