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SkullNibb

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MB: Asus prime a320m-k
Cpu: amd ryzen 5 3400g
Gpu: Gigabyte 1660ti
Ram: 8gb x 2 corsair vengence rbg pro
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2tb
SSD: Samsung 970 evo plus 1tb

Got my hands on the Samsung 970 evo plus because i heard that itll make booting windows up faster and loading games faster. However after installing it idk what to do next, boot time is still the same ( slowish ). Help!

Please and thank you!

ALSO
on task manager the ssd it says no as system disk
dont know if thats relevant.
 
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Darkbreeze
Did you do a clean install of Windows on the 970 EVO, WITH the Barracuda drive DISCONNECTED during the installation?

Before doing the installation did you go into the bios and set the Secure boot setting to UEFI and the OS setting to Win 8/10? If you didn't, then you likely did not end up with a UEFI installation, and instead have a legacy installation, or are possibly still booting from the boot partition on the HDD, which happens a lot when secondary drives are not disconnected during installation.

Did you WIPE the HDD, so that it does not have Windows on it anymore, or at least keep it disconnected while trying to boot from the 970?

There are many settings in the BIOS that affect boot times, such as turning off S.M.A.R.T for...
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Did you do a clean install of Windows on the 970 EVO, WITH the Barracuda drive DISCONNECTED during the installation?

Before doing the installation did you go into the bios and set the Secure boot setting to UEFI and the OS setting to Win 8/10? If you didn't, then you likely did not end up with a UEFI installation, and instead have a legacy installation, or are possibly still booting from the boot partition on the HDD, which happens a lot when secondary drives are not disconnected during installation.

Did you WIPE the HDD, so that it does not have Windows on it anymore, or at least keep it disconnected while trying to boot from the 970?

There are many settings in the BIOS that affect boot times, such as turning off S.M.A.R.T for storage devices, disabling error checking such as mouse and keyboard, enabling "Fast boot" settings, etc.

But the most important thing is likely a clean install with the aforementioned settings AND making sure you have the memory DOCP profile enabled so that your motherboard is not running through the memory training process EVERY time you restart or power on the machine.
 
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You can't copy and paste the operating system from one drive to another. It doesn't work that way. At all.

You need to backup any important personal files from the HDD to a thumb drive, external drive or some other location, and then disconnect that drive from the system and do this. Otherwise, you've done nothing, at all, except waste your time and money.

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Darkbreeze said:
Did you do a clean install of Windows on the 970 EVO, WITH the Barracuda drive DISCONNECTED during the installation?

Before doing the installation did you go into the bios and set the Secure boot setting to UEFI and the OS setting to Win 8/10? If you didn't, then you likely did not end up with a UEFI installation, and instead have a legacy installation, or are possibly still booting from the boot partition on the HDD, which happens a lot when secondary drives are not disconnected during installation.

Did you WIPE the HDD, so that it does not have Windows on it anymore, or at least keep it disconnected while trying to boot from the 970?

There are many settings in the BIOS that affect boot times, such as turning off S.M.A.R.T for storage devices, disabling error checking such as mouse and keyboard, enabling "Fast boot" settings, etc.

But the most important thing is likely a clean install with the aforementioned settings AND making sure you have the memory DOCP profile enabled so that your motherboard is not running through the memory training process EVERY time you restart or power on the machine.
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Alright so i did nothing of what you said actually.
All i did was just screw it in the motherboard and copy and paste hdd data to ssd.
So to be clear, i would first have to back up my hdd and then disconnect it from the Mb with only the ssd installed. Would i have to install windows again on the ssd?
Would it be to much to ask for a step by step guide, sorry and THANK YOU!
 
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BOTH of us already gave you a link to EXACTLY what to do, step by step. And yes, back up anything important such as personal files or folders, music, movies, etc., on the HDD, or just wait to do that until later. I'd do it first.

Then disconnect that drive and do a clean install of Windows by following the direction in my tutorial guide exactly as outlined.
 
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Since this is a Samsung target drive...use the Samsung Data Migration.

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Specific steps for a successful clone operation:
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Verify the actual used space on the current drive is significantly below the size of the new SSD
Download and install Macrium Reflect (or Samsung Data Migration, if a Samsung SSD)
Power off
Disconnect ALL drives except the current C and the new SSD
Power up
Run the Macrium Reflect (or Samsung Data Migration)
Select ALL the partitions on the existing C drive
Click the 'Clone' button
Wait until it is done
When it finishes, power off
Disconnect ALL drives except for the new SSD
This is to allow the system to try to boot from ONLY the SSD
Swap the SATA cables around so that the new drive is connected to the same SATA port as the old drive
Power up, and verify the BIOS boot order
If good, continue the power up

It should boot from the new drive, just like the old drive.
Maybe reboot a time or two, just to make sure.

If it works, and it should, all is good.

Later, reconnect the old drive and wipe all partitions on it.
This will probably require the commandline diskpart function, and the clean command.

Ask questions if anything is unclear.
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USAFRet said:
Since this is a Samsung target drive...use the Samsung Data Migration.

-----------------------------
Specific steps for a successful clone operation:
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Verify the actual used space on the current drive is significantly below the size of the new SSD
Download and install Macrium Reflect (or Samsung Data Migration, if a Samsung SSD)
Power off
Disconnect ALL drives except the current C and the new SSD
Power up
Run the Macrium Reflect (or Samsung Data Migration)
Select ALL the partitions on the existing C drive
Click the 'Clone' button
Wait until it is done
When it finishes, power off
Disconnect ALL drives except for the new SSD
This is to allow the system to try to boot from ONLY the SSD
Swap the SATA cables around so that the new drive is connected to the same SATA port as the old drive
Power up, and verify the BIOS boot order
If good, continue the power up

It should boot from the new drive, just like the old drive.
Maybe reboot a time or two, just to make sure.

If it works, and it should, all is good.

Later, reconnect the old drive and wipe all partitions on it.
This will probably require the commandline diskpart function, and the clean command.

Ask questions if anything is unclear.
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When you say reconnect the old drive and wipe all partitions on it what does that mean?
As in wiping the drive completely, if so what becomes of that hdd or what do i use it for ?
 
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SkullNibb said:
When you say reconnect the old drive and wipe all partitions on it what does that mean?
As in wiping the drive completely, if so what becomes of that hdd or what do i use it for ?
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If you've migrated everything to the new drive, there is zero reason to keep that same data on the old drive.
Delete all partitions, reformat it, and use as a secondary drive.

Only do this AFTER you are 100% sure the system is working from the new drive by itself.
 
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And, if you currently have more than 750-800GB on the HDD, don't even bother trying to clone it to the SSD as it's not going to work. You need to have SIGNIFICANTLY less used space on your current drive in order to clone it to an SSD that is half the size.

If you can, it's a good way to do it, but honestly, if you've had Windows installed on your HDD for quite a while, or if you've been through more than two major spring and fall Windows updates, you are much better off just doing a clean install. Personally, unless you have programs installed on the HDD that you cannot reinstall after reinstalling windows because you lack license keys for them or whatever reason you might not be able to put a program you NEED back on, then I'd do a clean install anyhow.

I always like to start fresh PLUS if you clone that HDD that was almost certainly a legacy installation, you are still going to have a legacy installation rather than a UEFI installation. If the HDD Windows installation WAS a full UEFI installation, which you can check for prior to doing any of this, then in that regard at least you can clone it without worrying.

I have much respect for the recommendations offered by USAFRet, but I also know that he agrees that a clean installation when it is an option, is a preferred method by most of us. It just eliminates a lot of old problems and cruft.
 
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SkullNibb said:
Yes, i disconnected the hdd and just left the sdd and the computer booted perfectly by itself at incredible speed so now i want to know how to wipe the HDD clean and use it as storage instead of booting up windows.
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Make sure the new drive is first in the BIOS boot order
From an admin commandline, diskpart and the clean command will delete ALL off the old HDD.

How to Diskpart Erase/Clean a Drive Through the Command Prompt | Seagate US

This article explains the Microsoft Diskpart Erase utility. The command that erases the drive during this process is "Clean". In this article "Clean" and erase are used interchangeably. Cleaning or erasing a storage device removes all data and partitions from the drive.
www.seagate.com
 
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USAFRet said:
Make sure the new drive is first in the BIOS boot order
From an admin commandline, diskpart and the clean command will delete ALL off the old HDD.

How to Diskpart Erase/Clean a Drive Through the Command Prompt | Seagate US

This article explains the Microsoft Diskpart Erase utility. The command that erases the drive during this process is "Clean". In this article "Clean" and erase are used interchangeably. Cleaning or erasing a storage device removes all data and partitions from the drive.
www.seagate.com
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Hypothetically lets say that i dont want to use that HDD anymore can I just plug in a new HDD/SSD just like that?
 
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