Hi I've got a fx4350 gtx960 8gb ram i only use itfor gaming i was thinking is it worth getting a fx 8350 has I have been told

[n7 daz]

Fx4350 0ver fx8350

 

[toyftw]

Fx4350 0ver fx8350

Hi - Really not worth the price to upgrade for gaming use. The primary difference between
these 2 CPU's is the 4350 is a quad core chip while the 8350 is an 8 core chip. However, almost
all games use only 1-2 cores, and I don't believe any use more than 4.

Please look at Tom's HW CPU gaming hierarchy chart. The 4350 & 8350 are in the same group
for AMD CPU's in gaming, meaning you will see little to no difference in performance while gaming.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html

The 8350 would be beneficial if you were heavy multitasking, video rendering, modeling,etc.

 

[n7 daz]

Thank man

 

[toyftw]

Thank man

 

[Paul Bialozor]

Fx4350 0ver fx8350

Greetings,

Don't make my mistake as this is exactly what I did, upgraded to the 8350 from the 4350 only to find out some disturbing things.

First most games rely on single core performance and for some reason the 4350 has better single core performance. Next I saw ZERO FPS increase. Worse yet, I probably lost a few FPS. Luckily for me, I was able to find get my 8350 during Black Friday Nov 2014, so I did obtain it well under current price, but again it is NOT WORTH IT.

In fact I've given up on AMD all together as I've been an AMD FANBOY for almost 2 decades, yes well over 20 years. What a fool I was to not even LOOK at Intel over the past few years only to find that AMD has long dropped the ball and is no longer in the game. Intel's i5 will smoke the 8350 and the Intel i7 is in a different UNIVERSE. AMD upgraded to PCIe 3.0 on the APU's but NOT THE FX, so what gives?

Granted no one has yet to post a video on the difference between PCIe 3.0 vs 2.0 and in some cases 2.0 is faster; but needless to say the gap is 1.5 FPS at best between the two so I am not sure what is up there? Why have 3.0 if it does not blow 2.0 away? But I digress and also must say that 3.0 does have bandwidth advantages so if you plan to use SLI/Crossfire while Gaming, streaming and doing what ever all at the same time you def want PCIe 3.0 and an i7 12 core CPU.

Granted some say the 8350 can Game and Stream better then Intel but again only by a few FPS. When Intel is faster then AMD a BLIND PERSON can see the difference but you need a magnifying glass to see how much faster AMD is.

In 2012 I bought the Asus Crosshair V Formula Z, AMD 2133 Gaming DDR 3 16 gb Kit, 1k watt Corsair PSU, Gigabyte GTX 680 4 GB DDR5 video card, not too many faster cards at the time, plus a full tower case and the FX 4350 CPU. Later that year I bought the MOSFET MB Cooling kit and CPU Water cooling block and put together my first water cooling loop with 2 rads plus a host of bells and whistles just to see if water cooling was for me and sure enough it is... My loop stays round 30c most of the time and maybe as high as 34c during heavy load and mild OC. Needless to say this was a test rig because now I know what I am going to invest in and I will save for it and probably throw this system away or scrap it.

I would not wish AMD on my worse enemy at this point, this is how disappointed I am with AMD. Now that I've said the bad here are some good. Well, there's, well, ummmmmmmmmmmmmm Price and compatibility. My A10 APU with Hybrid SLI and AMD 6950 GPU ran games about 20 FPS less than my 8350 and GTX 680 so that's sort of a good thing, it's a bit faster then an APU. But that's like saying a car goes faster downhill than uphill, so there is that...

As far as video card goes if you have not invested in the 8 gb gtx960 don't waste money on the AMD 8350, put that money into a gtx980x or something like that and stay with the 4350. Again if you Stream, Skype and Game all at the same time get the 8350, but if you are only doing 1 of those things, keep the 4350.

I hope this was helpful to you or anyone looking to copy my mistake...

 

[n7 daz]

Fx4350 0ver fx8350

Greetings,

Don't make my mistake as this is exactly what I did, upgraded to the 8350 from the 4350 only to find out some disturbing things.

First most games rely on single core performance and for some reason the 4350 has better single core performance. Next I saw ZERO FPS increase. Worse yet, I probably lost a few FPS. Luckily for me, I was able to find get my 8350 during Black Friday Nov 2014, so I did obtain it well under current price, but again it is NOT WORTH IT.

In fact I've given up on AMD all together as I've been an AMD FANBOY for almost 2 decades, yes well over 20 years. What a fool I was to not even LOOK at Intel over the past few years only to find that AMD has long dropped the ball and is no longer in the game. Intel's i5 will smoke the 8350 and the Intel i7 is in a different UNIVERSE. AMD upgraded to PCIe 3.0 on the APU's but NOT THE FX, so what gives?

Granted no one has yet to post a video on the difference between PCIe 3.0 vs 2.0 and in some cases 2.0 is faster; but needless to say the gap is 1.5 FPS at best between the two so I am not sure what is up there? Why have 3.0 if it does not blow 2.0 away? But I digress and also must say that 3.0 does have bandwidth advantages so if you plan to use SLI/Crossfire while Gaming, streaming and doing what ever all at the same time you def want PCIe 3.0 and an i7 12 core CPU.

Granted some say the 8350 can Game and Stream better then Intel but again only by a few FPS. When Intel is faster then AMD a BLIND PERSON can see the difference but you need a magnifying glass to see how much faster AMD is.

In 2012 I bought the Asus Crosshair V Formula Z, AMD 2133 Gaming DDR 3 16 gb Kit, 1k watt Corsair PSU, Gigabyte GTX 680 4 GB DDR5 video card, not too many faster cards at the time, plus a full tower case and the FX 4350 CPU. Later that year I bought the MOSFET MB Cooling kit and CPU Water cooling block and put together my first water cooling loop with 2 rads plus a host of bells and whistles just to see if water cooling was for me and sure enough it is... My loop stays round 30c most of the time and maybe as high as 34c during heavy load and mild OC. Needless to say this was a test rig because now I know what I am going to invest in and I will save for it and probably throw this system away or scrap it.

I would not wish AMD on my worse enemy at this point, this is how disappointed I am with AMD. Now that I've said the bad here are some good. Well, there's, well, ummmmmmmmmmmmmm Price and compatibility. My A10 APU with Hybrid SLI and AMD 6950 GPU ran games about 20 FPS less than my 8350 and GTX 680 so that's sort of a good thing, it's a bit faster then an APU. But that's like saying a car goes faster downhill than uphill, so there is that...

As far as video card goes if you have not invested in the 8 gb gtx960 don't waste money on the AMD 8350, put that money into a gtx980x or something like that and stay with the 4350. Again if you Stream, Skype and Game all at the same time get the 8350, but if you are only doing 1 of those things, keep the 4350.

I hope this was helpful to you or anyone looking to copy my mistake...

thanks man i went for the i5 in the end

 

[Bem-xxx]

The FX 8350 performs better.

 

[Karadjgne]

The 4350 and 8350 are the same cpu. The 4350 actually has a full 8 cores (4x modules) but for 1 reason or another (amd decision), 4 of the cores are disabled. Whether this was due to amd deciding this fx batch needed to be 4350s or had some bad cores, only amd knows, but all the fx use the same die.

So the differences come down to available resources, of which the 8350 has the edge. Higher L cache. This doesn't make much difference in most games as they only run 1-3 cores currently especially single player off-line. Multi-player online is a different story, especially those games like WoW, mmorpgs, Battlefield 4 multi-player etc that are optimized for multi-core use. Here, the 8350 is second only to an i7, beating the i5, simply due to core count and thread processing ability.

A pc running @3.5GHz delivering 2 packages is faster than a pc @4.0GHz delivering 1 package, as long as there isn't a package restriction. Skyrim, SWKotOR, etc are single thread games, so package restricted, here pc GHz is important. Bf4 etc is optimized for 8 threads or better, so while GHz helps, the ability to deliver 8 packages vrs 4 is more important.

If your gaming style is tuned toward single player, strong single thread games like skyrim, a move to an 8350 would be a waste of money. If you are an mmorpg, BF4, online multi-player gamer, it would show benefits in map times, fps, high volume servers etc.

You shouldn't account for certain games at certain settings like bem-xxx posted as the benefit differential is more broad based than the few fps difference in specific games at specific resolutions under specific conditions.

Either which way, it's an AMD FX cpu. Get it OC. The differences in performance between 3.5GHz and 4.5GHz are very noticeable.