[SOLVED] High-end gaming PC, so many questions...

NaranJust

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Hello, everyone! I've decided to treat myself to a decent gaming PC, but I'm baffled with so many things. Hopefully, you guys can clear it up for me.

My budget is around $1500. The main purpose, most of the power will be "spent" on gaming.
I'm also doing some amateur music production (Reason, Reaper), so that's also a priority.

What I came up with is this:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3VQzf9

And now, the questions:

1. I will not do any overclocking, except the RAM, which I would like to work at 3200 MHz. So, is the 212 EVO good, will it keep this CPU cool under gaming load? Is there a need for a stronger cooler (a low-profile one maybe, I don't like the huge ones) or maybe a liquid cooling solution?
2. Is the Z390 Aorus Pro an overkill? I'm not planning to insert an M.2 (at least not for now), and once again - no overclocking is planned.
3. Any suggestions for RAM, or is HyperX Fury the perfect choice? Also, how to set it to max speed? Is the XMP Auto option enough, or will I have to manually set the voltage and frequency?
4. As for the GPU, should I opt for Gigabyte or some other brand?
5. The case should be K500L. Any other suggestions? Phanteks P400S, NZXT H500...? I chose this one because it comes with 3 pre-installed coolers.
6. PSU, the one I chose or maybe the RM650x 80 PLUS Gold? Also, is 650 W enough for all this? Also also, the website tells me this: "The Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard has an additional 4-pin ATX power connector but the SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply does not."
Will I have any compatibility issues, since I won't be overclocking the CPU?
7. I currently own a Xonar DS sound card. Is it still better than integrated audio chips?
8. Lastly, do you think I should aim at maybe Ryzen 5 3600 and a good (well, great) B450 mobo? If you're up for it, please tell me what other changes you would make in that case.

Shortly, what I would like:
  • playing games at 1080p (maybe even 1440p) at Ultra settings
  • RAM at 3200 MHz (should I go for a 3600 MHz kit?)
  • a good case with decent coolers
  • a PC that will last for a long time
  • solid base which I could upgrade easily (like, buying a new GPU or adding more RAM)
What I don't want/need:
  • Radeon GPUs (many bad experiences, especially with drivers)
  • RGB is something that I don't need, but I wouldn't mind it if I could turn it off or maybe cut the LED wires... :)
  • transparent case, but in the end, maybe it would look cool, so I'm 50/50 with this one
  • a HUGE CPU fan
 
Here is the list(1080p):

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($309.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.90 @ B&H)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($95.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card ($649.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define C ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Walmart)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1535.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-29 04:38 EST-0500


This is better performance and better quality. A good 25% performance improvement over RTX2070Super.
I recommend sticking to 1080p gaming if you really care to have great gaming experience at ultra settings. Game at 1080p till you get your next upgrade that is a good 3Yrs+.
If you are sure to get 1440p monitor in near future I recommend spending a bit more and purchasing RTX2080Ti if you care for 1440p Ultra gaming. People may tell you that RTX2080Super is sufficient for 1440p gaming. Which is not true unless one is limiting his game library to less intense and taxing games or plans on bringing down his settings a notch or two from Ultra which kills of the point of spending decent amount on rig. RTX2080Super is able to handle games at 1440p where majority of graphic intense games are hardly pushing 60-70fps at Ultra and after a year it will be unable to keep-up 1440p Ultra settings on newer title launched then and have to compromise on settings and gaming experience.

Here is the list(1440p):

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($309.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($95.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB VENTUS GP Video Card ($999.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define C ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Walmart)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1795.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-29 04:50 EST-0500


18% increase on total budget to get 35% performance increase over RTX2080Super setup worth the expenditure if you are sure to pair it with 1440p monitor in near future.
 

NaranJust

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@kanewolf
Oh, I overlooked that. It should be a 2x8 GB kit.
Now when I think about it, NVMe disks aren't that expensive, and they save me the hassle of cable management...
Which one do you recommend?

@mdd1963
Noctua actually isn't beyond budget, I even researched those coolers. Would a low-profile Noctua cooler do the trick? Any recommendations for the model?
 
Here is the list(1080p):

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($309.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.90 @ B&H)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($95.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card ($649.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define C ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Walmart)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1535.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-29 04:38 EST-0500


This is better performance and better quality. A good 25% performance improvement over RTX2070Super.
I recommend sticking to 1080p gaming if you really care to have great gaming experience at ultra settings. Game at 1080p till you get your next upgrade that is a good 3Yrs+.
If you are sure to get 1440p monitor in near future I recommend spending a bit more and purchasing RTX2080Ti if you care for 1440p Ultra gaming. People may tell you that RTX2080Super is sufficient for 1440p gaming. Which is not true unless one is limiting his game library to less intense and taxing games or plans on bringing down his settings a notch or two from Ultra which kills of the point of spending decent amount on rig. RTX2080Super is able to handle games at 1440p where majority of graphic intense games are hardly pushing 60-70fps at Ultra and after a year it will be unable to keep-up 1440p Ultra settings on newer title launched then and have to compromise on settings and gaming experience.

Here is the list(1440p):

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($309.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($95.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB VENTUS GP Video Card ($999.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define C ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Walmart)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1795.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-29 04:50 EST-0500


18% increase on total budget to get 35% performance increase over RTX2080Super setup worth the expenditure if you are sure to pair it with 1440p monitor in near future.
 

kanewolf

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@kanewolf
Oh, I overlooked that. It should be a 2x8 GB kit.
Now when I think about it, NVMe disks aren't that expensive, and they save me the hassle of cable management...
Which one do you recommend?

@mdd1963
Noctua actually isn't beyond budget, I even researched those coolers. Would a low-profile Noctua cooler do the trick? Any recommendations for the model?
Nobody was ever disappointed in buying a Samsung NVMe SSD or an Intel NVMe SSD.
 

NaranJust

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One more question - are low profile CPU coolers (namely, Noctua NH-L12) enough for i7-9700 at stock speeds, paired with 2 or 3 case coolers?
 
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