High end PC is straight up lazy

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Hello, I have a 144hz monitor, but my computer simply won't go beyond ~100 fps. If I set graphics on ultra, it will have the same performance if I set them on low. Happenned with: LOL, CS:GO and PUBG. If I lower the graphics, the GPU usage will simply go lower, no difference in FPS. It really is annoying because spending such a money to get drops of 50 fps on League is really bad.
specs: Ryzen 5 1600

16GB Crucial Ballistix 2400mhz

ZOTAC GTX 1070 AMP! Core Edition

ASUS B350m TUF

What the hell is going on here?
 
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I have a R5 1600 build with a GTX1060 as a secondary machine. I eventually had to reinstall windows just to get things to behave correctly. For a while there, when I checked the task manager it seem the clock speed could not get past 1800 Ghz, and I was getting really crappy results for any of the benchmarks. I never did figure out why using a previous windows 10 install would lead to such behavior.

But then again it seems if I set the vcore past 1.35V would also lead to that behavior. So, it might not have been the problem of a new clean window 10 install vs an old one. But it was really strange seeing the clock speed capped so low.

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Hello, I have a 144hz monitor, but my computer simply won't go beyond ~100 fps. If I set graphics on ultra, it will have the same performance if I set them on low. Happenned with: LOL, CS:GO and PUBG. If I lower the graphics, the GPU usage will simply go lower, no difference in FPS. It really is annoying because spending such a money to get drops of 50 fps on League is really bad.
specs: Ryzen 5 1600

16GB Crucial Ballistix 2400mhz

ZOTAC GTX 1070 AMP! Core Edition

ASUS B350m TUF

What the hell is going on here?
 
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does the gpu being fully utilise during gaming?my buddy have the same cpu and gpu and we find out that on some games the cpu is being a bottleneck.now he is playing o 1440p and there is a noticeable different with gpu and cpu usage.
 
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No, neither components go 99%, except on PUB ultra specs, if I lower the specs, the fps will stay the same and the GPU usage will go lower.
 
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well pubg is still a mess even on high end system.have u tried ocing the cpu to see if there is any changes to usage/fps?
 
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Not yet, I think I will update my BIOS. Before buying Ryzen I noticed that it was never good at dishing out high frame rates, maybe they fixed it by now.
 
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Are your FPS locked at 100, or are you saying they just never go past 100, but still vary a bit below that point?

If they are locked in at 100, you are some sort of limiter in place. If it varies a bit, it sounds like the CPU or some other component other than the GPU, is bottlenecking you.
 
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No, 100 was just an example, it varies from 60 to 130, but in most cases it stays around 90-100.
 
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You are demanding and expecting too much from an R5 for at high FPS gaming. Especially at 1080p or lower resolutions. See:

https://www.techspot.com/review/1505-intel-core-8th-gen-vs-amd-ryzen/page6.html

https://m.hardocp.com/article/2017/05/26/definitive_amd_ryzen_7_realworld_gaming_guide/13
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Overall, the Intel Kaby Lake 7700K CPU at 5GHz Z270 system provided the highest performance while gaming. Didn’t matter if it was single-GPU, multi-GPU, 1080p, or 1440p, or 4K, the most wins (at least in terms of raw data) are with the 7700K at an overclocked 5GHz.

Overall, the AMD Ryzen 7 1700X at an overclocked 4GHz provided the same performance and gameplay experience as the Intel 2600K on Z68 at 4.5GHz. It was most competitive with the 2600K CPU with both overclocked to the highest levels.

In terms of gameplay experience we felt the 2600K and Ryzen CPUs "felt" the same while gaming in single-GPU at any resolution. We "felt" the 7700K at 5GHz had an experience advantage at all resolutions, and especially with multi-GPU CrossFire.
"

https://www.techspot.com/article/1496-pairing-cpu-and-gpu-bottlenecking/

http://www.legitreviews.com/cpu-bottleneck-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-tested-on-amd-ryzen-versus-intel-kaby-lake_192585/4

It is simply just a terrible design to use Ryzen for high fps gaming.
 
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I get your point and I completely agree with you. But, even considering all that, should I be getting 100 fps on League? Damn, my 2th gen i5-2310 did better than that. The usage of GPU/CPU doesn't go past 15%, my point is that my PC isn't even trying to put higher frames.
 
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Did it do much better? From what I was reading, in gaming, the CPU have is comparable to an i7 2600 on average. That's the same gen as your Intel CPU. It doesn't matter if you have a lot of cores when the game only uses a couple. Those extra cores will sit idle by design of the game.

The real question is whether it matters that your FPS aren't higher.
 
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I have a R5 1600 build with a GTX1060 as a secondary machine. I eventually had to reinstall windows just to get things to behave correctly. For a while there, when I checked the task manager it seem the clock speed could not get past 1800 Ghz, and I was getting really crappy results for any of the benchmarks. I never did figure out why using a previous windows 10 install would lead to such behavior.

But then again it seems if I set the vcore past 1.35V would also lead to that behavior. So, it might not have been the problem of a new clean window 10 install vs an old one. But it was really strange seeing the clock speed capped so low.

 
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