Question HIGH RAM USAGE

[crazy_stuff]

I have 1 tab open in chrome and 3 tabs open in edge, yet the ram usage is 60! %, I have even calculated all background processes - they all combined must be showing a figure of 25% and not 60%. Whats the problem?

I have 8 gb ram installed.

even after restarting the pc with pc being idle, the ram is still about 50%.

Can I permanently close "ANTIMALWARE SERVICE EXECUTABLE" and "SERVICE HOST: SYSMAIN"?

I have run multiple antivurus scans with diffrenet antiviruses - no issue was found.

What should I do?

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[hotaru.hino]

Check the Performance tab -> Memory Page -> Non-paged pool section.

If it's over 1GB, you probably have a leaky driver.

 

[rgd1101]

from your other thread. no don't disable the anti malware
I have 3 tabs in 2 browser and it is little over 4.5GB used.

 

[crazy_stuff]

Check the Performance tab -> Memory Page -> Non-paged pool section.

If it's over 1GB, you probably have a leaky driver.

This is what it shows:

https://imgur.com/a/csJ8yYs

View: https://imgur.com/a/csJ8yYs

 

[Dean0919]

You shouldn't have installed several anti viruses in your machine. It causes problems and conflicts. It also might be the culprit. Have only 1 antivirus installed.

 

[crazy_stuff]

You shouldn't have installed several anti viruses in your machine. It causes problems and conflicts. It also might be the culprit. Have only 1 antivirus installed.

What is a "culprit"? I have only windows defender installed now. Ram usage at startup is about 35 %...

 

[Dean0919]

I have run multiple antivurus scans with diffrenet antiviruses - no issue was found.

You said this in your first post, so I assumed you had installed several antiviruses in your system.

Culprit is anything that causes harm or trouble.

 

[hotaru.hino]

Good news is you don't have a leaky driver, but of course that doesn't solve your problem.

So another thing to note here is the memory usage in the Processes tab only counts the memory the application actively has for itself. You have to go to the Details tab, right click on the columns, and enable "Working Set". The total of that should be closer to what the memory page reports.

 

[geofelt]

Windows will keep unused code in ram in anticipation of possible quick reuse.
That is normal and not worrisome by itself.

Are you having any performance problems with only 8gb of ram?

Look in task manager resource manager.
Then select the memory tab and look at the hard faults/sec column.
It should be mostly zero.
A hard fault happens when a task needs something in ram and needs to swap a page our and swap the needed page in.

 

[crazy_stuff]

Windows will keep unused code in ram in anticipation of possible quick reuse.
That is normal and not worrisome by itself.

Are you having any performance problems with only 8gb of ram?

Look in task manager resource manager.
Then select the memory tab and look at the hard faults/sec column.
It should be mostly zero.
A hard fault happens when a task needs something in ram and needs to swap a page our and swap the needed page in.

Is this what you're referring to?

https://imgur.com/a/siRJaa9

View: https://imgur.com/a/siRJaa9

 

[geofelt]

No, At the bottom, clock open resource manager, then select memory tab.
You will see what is running, how much ram it normally needs to run(working set) and if there are any hard faults.

 

[crazy_stuff]

No, At the bottom, clock open resource manager, then select memory tab.
You will see what is running, how much ram it normally needs to run(working set) and if there are any hard faults.

There are some services there that show "commited" ram is more than "working set", including chrime.exe and nvidia share...

No hard faults

Yes, the high ram usage affects the performance of the pc

 

[hotaru.hino]

There are some services there that show "commited" ram is more than "working set", including chrime.exe and nvidia share...

No hard faults

Yes, the high ram usage affects the performance of the pc

Committed just means how much memory the OS promised to give to the app. It doesn't represent how much RAM is in use by the application unless you don't have a page file.

 

[crazy_stuff]

Committed just means how much memory the OS promised to give to the app. It doesn't represent how much RAM is in use by the application unless you don't have a page file.

What is a page profile?

 

[hotaru.hino]

What is a page profile?

It's a special file on your storage drive where the OS puts stuff that hasn't been used in a while from RAM into if there's not a lot of space in RAM left and it needs to make room for something.

Basically it lets your storage act as more RAM, at the cost of being super slow.

 

[kerberos_20]

either add more ram or switch to older operating system, windows 7 should run fine with 8gigs of ram
i have just firefox opened and 6gig of ram is used, you wont find what is using all your ram, some things are transparent to users, like drive cache, or how much ram app does use for real
tho if you close app, then you will see how much ram got freed

 

[Dean0919]

OP, what apps are running on a startup? Check them & if there are apps you don't need, disable.

 

[crazy_stuff]

It's a special file on your storage drive where the OS puts stuff that hasn't been used in a while from RAM into if there's not a lot of space in RAM left and it needs to make room for something.

Basically it lets your storage act as more RAM, at the cost of being super slow.

How do I know if a have a page file?

 

[Dean0919]

How do I know if a have a page file?

Everyone has page file by default unless you disable it manually.
More information about it here.

 

[rakinar2]

I have 1 tab open in chrome and 3 tabs open in edge, yet the ram usage is 60! %, I have even calculated all background processes - they all combined must be showing a figure of 25% and not 60%. Whats the problem?

I have 8 gb ram installed.

even after restarting the pc with pc being idle, the ram is still about 50%.

Can I permanently close "ANTIMALWARE SERVICE EXECUTABLE" and "SERVICE HOST: SYSMAIN"?

I have run multiple antivurus scans with diffrenet antiviruses - no issue was found.

What should I do?

https://imgur.com/a/UxhDHI8

View: https://imgur.com/a/UxhDHI8

https://imgur.com/20nlKVt

View: https://imgur.com/20nlKVt

Yes, maybe you can close windows defender. Open windows defender and then disable all protection options.
Note that this will keep your pc less-secured.

 

[crazy_stuff]

I have disabled intel virtualization in bios, now the hard faults section in memory tab shows some faults in some proccesses... Svchost being the biggest one

 

[hotaru.hino]

Looking over this again, I'm not entirely convinced there's a problem per se. A month ago I bought a Dell XPS 13 with 8GB of RAM (it came with Windows 11). Out of the box it was already using more than half the RAM. After debloating it, I couldn't get it below 45% usage after a fresh boot and giving it some time to settle. Granted on custom built systems, I typically don't see Windows using up more than about 2-2.5GB of RAM on a fresh boot.

I would argue, unless the computer is running out of RAM to the point where it slows down significantly, I wouldn't worry about it. But if you really want to try and free up memory:

• Uninstall apps you aren't using or aren't necessary
• Make sure the start up list is as empty as possible
• Disable services that aren't necessary to your configuration (see https://www.blackviper.com/service-configurations/black-vipers-windows-10-service-configurations/), with the caveat that this can potentially cause issues later down the road.
• Reinstall Windows to ensure you have a clean slate to work with

There are ways to strip memory usage down further, but they can also screw with the usability of Windows.