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"difool" <john.difool@mail.telepac.pt> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, "OldDog" wrote:
>
> > Well then, let us agree to disagree.
> > It's ok that we have different opinions.
>
> the difference is, i respect you wanting to buy games via steam and hope
> you will continue doing it, but you don't respect me and want to force
> into accepting steam, when what i want is maintain the traditional way
>
> that's the difference! i want freedom of choice, and you want to force
> every gamer to buy games the way YOU like
>
You hope that I continue to buy games thru Steam??!?! Is this really
difool?
As to freedom of choice. I'm not forcing anyone to d/l, obtain, or
purchase games thru Steam. However, I believe that users should be
informed. And while you have made some valid points against Steam, I've
weighed the pros and cons, and made my choice.
note: If I lived in a country where I was on dialup and had to buy by the
min... I might have made a different choice.
Bottom line: It's up to the gamers to make their choice which hopefully
will be based upon all the pros/cons. Not just because OldDog say's that
Steam is the next best thing since Steam powered engine.
> > As to being upset.... remember that we're discussing game distribution.
> > Not the environment, world peace, hunger, or aids.
>
> i respect these group and want to preserve being always "on-topic"
> probably cause there are so many "off-topic" no game related threads, i
> refuse to participate in anything but pc games, that's why i only speak
> about games...
> obviously the world in full of extremely serious problems... but this is
> the place for games... outside we have plenty of opportunity to discuss
> the real important issues
>
> its not cause the world has such serious problems we should not try and
> enjoy ourselves and playing pc games in for me the best way of doing it
>
> > Which reminds me. If it hadn't been for your "passion" about this
subject,
> > I wouldn't have stopped to ponder the issues surrounding game
distribution.
>
> i also see you as very passionate for electronic distribution in software
> i know why you are, you believe in it, you see lots of qualities and you
> enjoy using it... i totally respect you, but what i disagree with you
> is forcing it to others and making it kill the traditional way
>
Had does that one song go? "Video killed the radio...."
Maybe in a few years we'll all be singing, "Steam killed the compact
disc..."
😉
Ok, time for me to go. I'm heading down to the local software store and
stand outside. If I catch anyone buying HL2 box, I'm going to "force" them
to march back inside and get their $ back!
They don't call me the Steam Enforcer at my local church for nothing.
> > For example, I bought a pc game while shopping the other day (John
Madden
> > 2005 on sale!). Got it home, installed it, patched it, and tossed the
> > cardboard box into the trash. What a waste. (And no, the area that I
>
> that's really interesting... in the us do you still sell games in the old
> big cardboard box? i thought all games including pc games were now sold
> in the standard dvd case first used in dvd movies, the small plastic one
>
Most US games come in CD size cardboard box. And inside is usually some
more cardboard filler which I assume is used to protect the CDs/DVDs. The
box and cardboard filler are just junk/waste to me. Back in Maryland, at
least I could recycle them. And even though the boxes have gotten smaller,
it's still a waste of trees IMHO.
I'm not much into "resale" of pc games. Games that I've played and will
probably never use again, I'll give them to family or friends. Or toss
them in a box and put them in the garage. Maybe 20 years from now, I'm
pull out my 8 inch, 5 1/4 inch, 3 1/2 inch floppies, and CDs and donate them
to museum. They can put them next to the slide rule and the covered wagon.
> i extremely surprised seeing us is still selling pc games in the old boxes
>
> and btw i could never enjoy playing sports games... since be beginning i
> tried but for me its not fun
>
> > live in doesn't recycle cardboard. Back in MD they took cardboard.
Not
> > sure what's up with the state of Texas.)
>
> i would like very much to follow up on this subject and write what i think
> about it... but please understand i want to keep it all about pc games
> but let me only tell you this, i found very unfair you trying to connect
> environment problems with pc games... its not fair and you know it isn't
>
IMHO, if it's related to the manufacture, distribution, sale, installation,
.... of pc games, then it's related. Although, since this is an Action
forum, maybe we should limit the discussion in here to just the game play
itself? No posting on installation, sale, distribution, boxes, ....?
BTW Wasn't it you that brought up how ugly the game box cover was?
> i believe pc games are healthy for our society and don't harm anyone
> the only possible issue is violence, but lets not forget men are violent
> its something inside us, so channeling that violence for pc games is good
> this way we don't need to be violent in the real world
> obviously age should be respected when playing violent games, so parents
> and those who sell pc games should be honest and obliged to the ratings
> but i believe action games have a relaxing and calming effect
> for me playing action pc games is the best thing to fight stress
>
Maybe. As for me, it raises my blood pressure.
Usually while playing Call of Duty, I can be heard to scream, "Hold still
you dirty Nazis!"
As to the benefits of games, ask yourself, "What would happen if there were
no pc/video games?"
Answer: "There'd be no Steam."
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