HM175 Chipset Duel channel ?

[Deleted member 1560910]

I have this laptop GT73EVR 7RE Titan https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GT73EVR-7RE-Titan/Specification
Basically im trying to figure out if this mother board will run in duel channel memory. WHen i bought this laptop it claimed to have 2x8gb but when i checked cpu z it only have 1 dimm slot with 16gb. I have done some test to see if running in duel channel vs single channel on my desktop and did see that my gpu was hitting higher percent usage with the duel channel. I tryed running with only one stick 1x8gb and putting the sticks in slots were duel channel isnt supported in the dimm slots and both configs proved that in Project cars 2 duel channel did have a massive impact over single. So will duel channel work with my laptop is my question ?

 

[Rogue Leader]

Your laptop only has 2 memory slots. If you have DIMMS in both slots (which you do because no matter what CPUZ said you physically opened the laptop and removed 1 of 2 DIMMS) then its running in dual channel.

 

[Deleted member 1560910]

Your laptop only has 2 memory slots. If you have DIMMS in both slots (which you do because no matter what CPUZ said you physically opened the laptop and removed 1 of 2 DIMMS) then its running in dual channel.

I dont think that is true because opening the back of the laptop clearly shows 2 empty dimms slots

 

[Rogue Leader]

Your laptop only has 2 memory slots. If you have DIMMS in both slots (which you do because no matter what CPUZ said you physically opened the laptop and removed 1 of 2 DIMMS) then its running in dual channel.

I dont think that is true because opening the back of the laptop clearly shows 2 empty dimms slots

I don't understand, how many total DIMM slots do you have? And how many have Memory in them?

 

[Deleted member 1560910]

Your laptop only has 2 memory slots. If you have DIMMS in both slots (which you do because no matter what CPUZ said you physically opened the laptop and removed 1 of 2 DIMMS) then its running in dual channel.

Not to mention the advertise this laptop have expandable memory up to 64 gbs

 

[Deleted member 1560910]

Your laptop only has 2 memory slots. If you have DIMMS in both slots (which you do because no matter what CPUZ said you physically opened the laptop and removed 1 of 2 DIMMS) then its running in dual channel.

I dont think that is true because opening the back of the laptop clearly shows 2 empty dimms slots

I don't understand, how many total DIMM slots do you have? And how many have Memory in them?

I left a couple of links in the post up top. Cpu z is claiming 1 stick of ram 16gb single channel. There is 2 on the bottom of the laptop and im assuming there are 2 more somewere else im not sure how to get to it most likely under the keyboard or something like that

 

[Rogue Leader]

I left a couple of links in the post up top. Cpu z is claiming 1 stick of ram 16gb single channel. There is 2 on the bottom of the laptop and im assuming there are 2 more somewere else im not sure how to get to it most likely under the keyboard or something like that

Ok but what I am asking you is the 2 slots you can see are empty right?

And you said that you tried running 1x8gb stick of ram, how did you do that if you don't know where the other slots are?

 

[Deleted member 1560910]

I left a couple of links in the post up top. Cpu z is claiming 1 stick of ram 16gb single channel. There is 2 on the bottom of the laptop and im assuming there are 2 more somewere else im not sure how to get to it most likely under the keyboard or something like that

Ok but what I am asking you is the 2 slots you can see are empty right?

And you said that you tried running 1x8gb stick of ram, how did you do that if you don't know where the other slots are?

I was talking about when i tested on my DESKTOP to see if there was a benifit to running duel channel

 

[Rogue Leader]

I left a couple of links in the post up top. Cpu z is claiming 1 stick of ram 16gb single channel. There is 2 on the bottom of the laptop and im assuming there are 2 more somewere else im not sure how to get to it most likely under the keyboard or something like that

Ok but what I am asking you is the 2 slots you can see are empty right?

And you said that you tried running 1x8gb stick of ram, how did you do that if you don't know where the other slots are?

I was talking about when i tested on my DESKTOP to see if there was a benifit to running duel channel

Ok your post didn't make sense at first.

Everything I can find regarding that laptop says it comes with 2x8gb dimms, and they are under the keyboard. I cannot find any pictures and the rumor is they may actually be soldiered in. I don't know why CPU-Z says 1x16gb because its HIGHLY unlikely that MSI would hobble one of their premier gaming laptoips with single channel memory. Dual channel does make a difference, but its not a switch you can turn on and off, its obtained by installing 2 dimms in dual slots. According again to everything I read on that laptop, the stock ram is in slots 0 and 2 and the empty slots on the back are slots 1 and 3, which makes complete sens for proper dual channel operation.

If for some bizzare reason your system has 1 16gb DIMM in there then the only way you can run dual channel is to add a second 16gb DIMM. The only way to know this would be to remove the keyboard and look. There is no other way to determine it.

 

[Deleted member 1560910]

I left a couple of links in the post up top. Cpu z is claiming 1 stick of ram 16gb single channel. There is 2 on the bottom of the laptop and im assuming there are 2 more somewere else im not sure how to get to it most likely under the keyboard or something like that

Ok but what I am asking you is the 2 slots you can see are empty right?

And you said that you tried running 1x8gb stick of ram, how did you do that if you don't know where the other slots are?

I was talking about when i tested on my DESKTOP to see if there was a benifit to running duel channel

Ok your post didn't make sense at first.

Everything I can find regarding that laptop says it comes with 2x8gb dimms, and they are under the keyboard. I cannot find any pictures and the rumor is they may actually be soldiered in. I don't know why CPU-Z says 1x16gb because its HIGHLY unlikely that MSI would hobble one of their premier gaming laptoips with single channel memory. Dual channel does make a difference, but its not a switch you can turn on and off, its obtained by installing 2 dimms in dual slots. According again to everything I read on that laptop, the stock ram is in slots 0 and 2 and the empty slots on the back are slots 1 and 3, which makes complete sens for proper dual channel operation.

If for some bizzare reason your system has 1 16gb DIMM in there then the only way you can run dual channel is to add a second 16gb DIMM. The only way to know this would be to remove the keyboard and look. There is no other way to determine it.

Thanks for your help. I was looking into buying a pair of ripjaws 2400 duel channel. It would be nice if i can disable the 2 slots in the front (under the keyboard) so i can just populate the ones underneath. I can find and guides for the removal of the top keyboard. I have built my own desktops before and might consider a walk into the unknown but this comes with risks

 

[Rogue Leader]

There is no way to disable those ram slots (especially if ram is soldiered in). Honestly doing what you wanted to do would be a waste of money, you'd see negligible performance gains especially if the stock memory is in dual channel (which it most likely is) according tot he spec sheet the stock memory runs at 2400 too. There really is no performance to be gained here.

 

[Deleted member 1560910]

There is no way to disable those ram slots (especially if ram is soldiered in). Honestly doing what you wanted to do would be a waste of money, you'd see negligible performance gains especially if the stock memory is in dual channel (which it most likely is) according tot he spec sheet the stock memory runs at 2400 too. There really is no performance to be gained here.

THe stock memory isnt running in duel channel I just checked in the bios and i can confirm slot 0 is populated with a 16gb dimm

 

[Rogue Leader]

There is no way to disable those ram slots (especially if ram is soldiered in). Honestly doing what you wanted to do would be a waste of money, you'd see negligible performance gains especially if the stock memory is in dual channel (which it most likely is) according tot he spec sheet the stock memory runs at 2400 too. There really is no performance to be gained here.

THe stock memory isnt running in duel channel I just checked in the bios and i can confirm slot 0 is populated with a 16gb dimm

Wow that sucks that MSI did that. THe only option you have then is to pull the keyboard and add a second 16gb DIMM. OR remove that 16GB DIMM and put 2 8gb DIMMS in. No way around doing the physical work.

 

[Deleted member 1560910]

There is no way to disable those ram slots (especially if ram is soldiered in). Honestly doing what you wanted to do would be a waste of money, you'd see negligible performance gains especially if the stock memory is in dual channel (which it most likely is) according tot he spec sheet the stock memory runs at 2400 too. There really is no performance to be gained here.

THe stock memory isnt running in duel channel I just checked in the bios and i can confirm slot 0 is populated with a 16gb dimm

Wow that sucks that MSI did that. THe only option you have then is to pull the keyboard and add a second 16gb DIMM. OR remove that 16GB DIMM and put 2 8gb DIMMS in. No way around doing the physical work.

I think i will try MSI to get some kind of tear down guide and hope its not soldered in. I believe they owe me some sort of explanation as to why its advertised as 2x8 which was the selling point because i assumed it had duel channel. Once again i learn to never assume

 

[Rogue Leader]

There is no way to disable those ram slots (especially if ram is soldiered in). Honestly doing what you wanted to do would be a waste of money, you'd see negligible performance gains especially if the stock memory is in dual channel (which it most likely is) according tot he spec sheet the stock memory runs at 2400 too. There really is no performance to be gained here.

THe stock memory isnt running in duel channel I just checked in the bios and i can confirm slot 0 is populated with a 16gb dimm

Wow that sucks that MSI did that. THe only option you have then is to pull the keyboard and add a second 16gb DIMM. OR remove that 16GB DIMM and put 2 8gb DIMMS in. No way around doing the physical work.

I think i will try MSI to get some kind of tear down guide and hope its not soldered in. I believe they owe me some sort of explanation as to why its advertised as 2x8 which was the selling point because i assumed it had duel channel. Once again i learn to never assume

I'm honestly shocked, thats pretty bad, because as I said it does hobble performance. Hopefully they can advise you.

 

[Deleted member 1560910]

There is no way to disable those ram slots (especially if ram is soldiered in). Honestly doing what you wanted to do would be a waste of money, you'd see negligible performance gains especially if the stock memory is in dual channel (which it most likely is) according tot he spec sheet the stock memory runs at 2400 too. There really is no performance to be gained here.

THe stock memory isnt running in duel channel I just checked in the bios and i can confirm slot 0 is populated with a 16gb dimm

Wow that sucks that MSI did that. THe only option you have then is to pull the keyboard and add a second 16gb DIMM. OR remove that 16GB DIMM and put 2 8gb DIMMS in. No way around doing the physical work.

I think i will try MSI to get some kind of tear down guide and hope its not soldered in. I believe they owe me some sort of explanation as to why its advertised as 2x8 which was the selling point because i assumed it had duel channel. Once again i learn to never assume

I'm honestly shocked, thats pretty bad, because as I said it does hobble performance. Hopefully they can advise you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx31s7phLiE
I went ahead a took it apart if i put the 2 sticks in the 2 slots on either side of the motherboard were i have have access will that allow for duel channel ?

 

[Rogue Leader]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx31s7phLiE
I went ahead a took it apart if i put the 2 sticks in the 2 slots on either side of the motherboard were i have have access will that allow for duel channel ?

Ha that may be the first shot of that side of the motherboard I've ever seen on the internet.

Anyway the only way for dual channel to work is for all your RAM to be dual channel. If I were you I would take a 2x8gb set (or buy another of the IDENTICAL kingston 16gb dimm you have) and put it into the slots that were hidden. That will give you dual channel.

If you put the ram that came with it back in, and put 2 DIMMS into the other two slots, dual channel wouldn't work because of the missing DIMM in the under keyboard slot.

 

[Deleted member 1560910]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx31s7phLiE
I went ahead a took it apart if i put the 2 sticks in the 2 slots on either side of the motherboard were i have have access will that allow for duel channel ?

Ha that may be the first shot of that side of the motherboard I've ever seen on the internet.

Anyway the only way for dual channel to work is for all your RAM to be dual channel. If I were you I would take a 2x8gb set (or buy another of the IDENTICAL kingston 16gb dimm you have) and put it into the slots that were hidden. That will give you dual channel.

If you put the ram that came with it back in, and put 2 DIMMS into the other two slots, dual channel wouldn't work because of the missing DIMM in the under keyboard slot.

I just picked up a pair of these waiting for deliver https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232154

 

[Rogue Leader]

Those will do the job. Just replace that single DIMM with those two and you will have dual channel.