HOMEBUILT vs NAME BRAND

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jaster:

> A lot of arguments in this thread are solely related to eMachines,
> HP/Compaq and Dell but there are lots of PC manufacturers selling
> better PCs than those vendors for less money with 1 yr warranties.

Better for sure, but who is selling a better quality factory-built for
less than Dell?

> In a discussion of pre-built vs. home built these should be
> considered. Wasn't everyone's first PC a pre-built?

No. My first system was built by my neighbor because I didn't have the
knowledge to build my own. The components for a top of the line system
cost me ~$2500 which was roughly $500 less than I could have bought a
factory-built for back in 1991. I guess you could technically call it a
pre-built since I didn't build it, but he built it to my specifications
and didn't charge me anything.
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Mac Cool

 

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Mac Cool wrote:

> > First name me a reference Dell PC with a NFORCE2 mobo and an AMD CPU,
> > because that's what I will be using. And provide a detailed list of
> > all the junk bloatware that the the Dell comes with, so I can
> > completely ignore most of it, because I won't be paying one dime for
> > any of it.
>
> Are you giving up?

So in other words, you can't name one.

 

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Mac Cool wrote:
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> ToolPackinMama:
>
> > Mac Cool wrote:
> >> no video card, no sound card
> >
> > Hello? Onboard vid and sound.
>
> My system had a 9800 Pro and Audigy 2.

And you paid how much?

 

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Mac Cool wrote:

> Here's your reference system:
> It is a Dell 4600 $979 shipped (tax not included)
>
> Dell Dimension 4600 Series
> Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (2.80GHz, 800 FSB)
> Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
> 512MB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400MHz
> Dell Quietkey® Keyboard
> 17 in (16 in viewable,.27dp) E773c CRT Monitor E773
> Video Card 128MB DDR ATI RADEON 9800 PRO w/ TV-Out and DVI
> Hard Drive 40GB Ultra ATA/100 Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
> No Floppy Drive
> Mouse Dell 2-button scroll mouse
> Integrated Intel® PRO 10/100 Ethernet
> Modem 56K PCI Data Fax Modem
> Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 6.0
> 16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+RW/+R) w/double layer write capability
> Sound Sound Blaster Audigy™2 w/Dolby 5.1, and IEEE 1394
> No Speaker Option
> WordPerfect®
> 6 Months America Online Internet Access Included
> Microsoft® Money 2004 Standard
> 1 Year Limited Warranty plus 1 Year At-Home Service

OK, thank you. I guess that's the best you can do. It's not what I
would call an inexpensive system. The one I found was cheaper. IMHO,
you should try to find a less expensivve one for the purposes of our
discussion.

The subject was saving money. If a person's top priority is to save
money then your Dell is not the least expensive PC available, period.
Would you like to try again?

 

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Mac Cool wrote:
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> ToolPackinMama:
>
> >> No links, AMD processor, no video card, no sound card, generic memory,
> >> generic case, a slower DVD burner, a lower quality hard drive, no
> >> operating system, no software; overall a resounding failure
> >
> > Compared to what? Be specific.
>
> I posted the reference system last night. You replied to the message and
> even quoted part of it.

I just couldn't believe that that was the cheapest Dell that you knew
of. I even found a cheaper one. IMHO you not only never laid a glove on
me, but you never even entered the ring.

 

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Matt wrote:

> Basically he has shown that nobody can sell a Dell cheaper than Dell.

That's correct.

 

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ToolPackinMama:
> OK, thank you. I guess that's the best you can do. It's not what I
> would call an inexpensive system. The one I found was cheaper. IMHO,
> you should try to find a less expensivve one for the purposes of our
> discussion.
>
> The subject was saving money.

You said you could build a cheaper, better system; I'm waiting...

--
Mac Cool

p.s.
Don't forget the video card this time, LOL!

 

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Mac Cool wrote:
>
> ToolPackinMama:
> > OK, thank you. I guess that's the best you can do. It's not what I
> > would call an inexpensive system. The one I found was cheaper. IMHO,
> > you should try to find a less expensivve one for the purposes of our
> > discussion.
> >
> > The subject was saving money.
>
> You said you could build a cheaper, better system; I'm waiting...

Yes. Well. You are apparently new to the whole "debate" concept. It
goes like this:

1) First we negotiate and agree to parameters for the debate. Terms
are defined, etc., for example. Since that has not yet happened, I
assume that you understand that *that* means that THE DEBATE HAS NOT YET
EVEN BEGUN. Therefore, it is premature for you to declare yourself the
victor...



WAY premature.

 

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ToolPackinMama:

> Mac Cool wrote:
>> You said you could build a cheaper, better system; I'm waiting...
>
> Yes. Well. You are apparently new to the whole "debate" concept.

Can you do it or not?
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Mac Cool wrote:
>
> ToolPackinMama:
>
> > Mac Cool wrote:
> >> You said you could build a cheaper, better system; I'm waiting...
> >
> > Yes. Well. You are apparently new to the whole "debate" concept.
>
> Can you do it or not?

What exactly are you asking? Are you asking if I can recreate your Dell
for less than Dell sells it for? How exact do you expect me to be?
Do you demand that I use the exact same motherboard, the exact same CPU,
the exact same case? Please be specific.

 

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ToolPackinMama:

>> Can you do it or not?
>
> What exactly are you asking? Are you asking if I can recreate your Dell
> for less than Dell sells it for? How exact do you expect me to be?
> Do you demand that I use the exact same motherboard, the exact same CPU,
> the exact same case? Please be specific.

I was already specific. You're just wasting my time.
Into the troll bin with you.
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Mac Cool

 

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Mac Cool wrote:
>
> ToolPackinMama:
>
> >> Can you do it or not?
> >
> > What exactly are you asking? Are you asking if I can recreate your Dell
> > for less than Dell sells it for? How exact do you expect me to be?
> > Do you demand that I use the exact same motherboard, the exact same CPU,
> > the exact same case? Please be specific.
>
> I was already specific. You're just wasting my time.
> Into the troll bin with you.

LOL!

You were "already specific" about a system that is WELL ESTABLISHED to
NOT be the least expensive one available.

POINT for me, I guess.

End of discussion, you say? WIN for me, I guess, since my bargain
system certainly cost less than yours did.

 

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<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<snore>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
go buy a dell, and leave the 'homebuilt' NG for the alt.dell

"Mac Cool" <Mac@2cool.com> wrote in message
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> ToolPackinMama:
>
> >> Can you do it or not?
> >
> > What exactly are you asking? Are you asking if I can recreate
your Dell
> > for less than Dell sells it for? How exact do you expect me to
be?
> > Do you demand that I use the exact same motherboard, the exact
same CPU,
> > the exact same case? Please be specific.
>
> I was already specific. You're just wasting my time.
> Into the troll bin with you.
> --
> Mac Cool