How big upgrade would this pc be compared to my old one?

[Einari Polkko]

Hi, How big of a upgrade would this :Asrock 970 Pro3 r2.0 Motherboard
AMD FX-4130 Quad core 3.8Ghz
SilentiumPC Spartan 3
16GB DDR3 1600Mhz Kington hyper fury 4 x 4GB
ASUS R9 280 3GB DirectCUII
Kolink 600W ATX-
Liteonit 256Gb SSD + Seagate 1Tb HDD

If you compare it with my old setup:
i7 860
Asus gtx 670
6gb ram ddr3 kinston 1333mhz
590gb hdd
no ssd
Just by looking at the core parts would you say its worth ?

 

[WildCard999]

Sidegrade, no upgrade. Is your "old setup" what you currently have? If so let us know your budget and we can suggest a much better upgrade path.

 

[velocityg4]

The CPU is much slower. The GPU is nearly identical. The PSU is likely garbage (unknown brand). Those old Seagate hard drives have a horrible reliability record.

The only improvements are a garbage SSD, slightly more RAM and a larger hard drive. I'd just upgrade the RAM and buy a good quality SSD for your current machine.

 

[Einari Polkko]

Hello again ! And yes it is my current setup. And the pc i would go for is only 350€ nearly new with some warrantys left. If you think its not worth 350€ my budget for a new build would be only around 300-400€ + the amount i can get for old probably 200-250€

 

[WildCard999]

I'd upgrade your old system to this for now.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (€186.32 @ Amazon Italia)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€77.98 @ Amazon Italia)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€106.10 @ Amazon Italia)
Total: €370.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-09 19:04 CET+0100

Next upgrades I would go with would be this as you want a SSD for better speed and your PSU may not be good however let us know what model it is.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€74.99 @ Amazon Italia)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€81.70 @ Amazon Italia)
Total: €156.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-09 19:05 CET+0100

Then upgrade the GPU to whatever the best mid range GPU is at the time of upgrade.

While you current system is older it's still ok if your gaming at 1080P/60hz or less. As long as your PSU is decent I'd recommend overclocking the CPU & GPU a bit to get the most out of it for now and save up some more money for a better upgrade.

 

[Einari Polkko]

My PSU was some corsair 550w if i remember right. And my motherboard is ASUSTeK computer inc -P7P55D. I am not sure if i know how to change my entire motherboard.

 

[WildCard999]

Changing the motherboard is pretty straightforward, just remembering where cables plug in is key. When I first starting working on systems I would take pics before so I remembered where parts went.

 

[Einari Polkko]

Hello, I didnt want to create new post what do you guys think about this ?

Intel Core i5-3470 3.20Ghz
8GB DDR3
120GB SSD + 500 GB
Nvidia GTX 1050ti 4GB

 

[WildCard999]

It's a better CPU however your 670 is better, keep it until you can afford a much better GPU. The other parts are fine as well.

 

[Einari Polkko]

You mean keep what? 670 ? that pc costs 400€ so i think not worth if my gpu is better. But srsly 670 is better than 1050ti wtf ?

If thats the case i am starting to think i just upgrade this is there any decent cpu i can fit to this motherboard ?

 

[WildCard999]

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-670-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1050-Ti/2181vs3649

 

[Tanoxil]

You mean keep what? 670 ? that pc costs 400€ so i think not worth if my gpu is better. But srsly 670 is better than 1050ti wtf ?

If thats the case i am starting to think i just upgrade this is there any decent cpu i can fit to this motherboard ?

Your CPU is already great. Upgrade your RAM first. Most games use up to 8gb of RAM nowadays

 

[maxalge]

It's a better CPU however your 670 is better, keep it until you can afford a much better GPU. The other parts are fine as well.

You mean keep what? 670 ? that pc costs 400€ so i think not worth if my gpu is better. But srsly 670 is better than 1050ti wtf ?

If thats the case i am starting to think i just upgrade this is there any decent cpu i can fit to this motherboard ?

no, you are maxed out with that i7 860

you can however get an aftermarket cpu cooler and overclock it

then sell the 670, upgrade to a gtx 1060 6gb, and buy 16gb of 1600 ddr3



save some money, and wait for the next gen of intel or ryzen cpu's and do a full upgrade then

 

[Einari Polkko]

1060 6gb almost same price that i have used to this build lmao. Do you think upgrading from 6gb to 12gb ram would effect gameplay for example i have some issues playing gta v on heavily modded servers You think ram would help ?

And also is this decent buy ? Kingston ValueRAM 4 GB 1600MHz NON-ECC DDR3, CL11

 

[velocityg4]

1060 6gb almost same price that i have used to this build lmao. Do you think upgrading from 6gb to 12gb ram would effect gameplay for example i have some issues playing gta v on heavily modded servers You think ram would help ?

And also is this decent buy ? Kingston ValueRAM 4 GB 1600MHz NON-ECC DDR3, CL11

More RAM won't hurt. 6GB is pretty light for a lot of new games. That Kingston should be fine. If you are already using all four RAM slots. I'd get an 8GB RAM kit. As a 4GB kit would only give you an extra 2GB in that situation.

Because of the mining surge. GPU prices have gone insane the last week or two. I'd hold off on that upgrade until prices come back down. A GTX 1060 6GB should run about $275.

Heck, even a used GTX 970 has climbed north of $200 when they should be closer to $130. Same with a GTX 1050 Ti, which is around $200 right now. When they ran around $135.

It's probably cheaper buying a prebuilt gaming computer off Newegg right now than to build yourself.

 

[Einari Polkko]

1060 6gb almost same price that i have used to this build lmao. Do you think upgrading from 6gb to 12gb ram would effect gameplay for example i have some issues playing gta v on heavily modded servers You think ram would help ?

And also is this decent buy ? Kingston ValueRAM 4 GB 1600MHz NON-ECC DDR3, CL11

More RAM won't hurt. 6GB is pretty light for a lot of new games. That Kingston should be fine. If you are already using all four RAM slots. I'd get an 8GB RAM kit. As a 4GB kit would only give you an extra 2GB in that situation.

Because of the mining surge. GPU prices have gone insane the last week or two. I'd hold off on that upgrade until prices come back down. A GTX 1060 6GB should run about $275.

Heck, even a used GTX 970 has climbed north of $200 when they should be closer to $130. Same with a GTX 1050 Ti, which is around $200 right now. When they ran around $135.

It's probably cheaper buying a prebuilt gaming computer off Newegg right now than to build yourself.

Mind try to find me full build computer from newegg? I am on probably too low budget 400€

 

[unspeakable]

Everything only your "new" setup is WORSE than your old one. The only thing that's better is the graphics card. The AMD FX series is old news. The newest series of that is the 9000 series.

 

[velocityg4]

Mind try to find me full build computer from newegg? I am on probably too low budget 400€

I was just thinking in terms of the cost vs doing it yourself. I don't think you'll find anything new in that budget.

Have you considered buying used? I don't know about the EU. In the US you can find some pretty sweet used systems on eBay in the $400 range.

There are a few example on eBay Deutschland which sold in the 400€ range. With a higher end third or fourth generation Core i5 or i7 and a GeForce GTX 970 or GTX 780. Many of which are overclocking capable models.

 

[Einari Polkko]

Ryzen 3 1200
Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX
8gb ddr4/ 240GB SSD
for only 260€ worth to get ? I would just stick my 670 gtx in there and old hdd.

 

[velocityg4]

Ryzen 3 1200
Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX
8gb ddr4/ 240GB SSD
for only 260€ worth to get ? I would just stick my 670 gtx in there and old hdd.

If you can. Get Ryzen 1400 CPU. The Ryzen 1400 is considerably better than the 1200. The Simultaneous Multi-Threading (SMT) improves CPU performance. It should have a longer useful life.

Do you need a Mini-ITX motherboard for some reason? Get a ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4, MSI B350 Tomahawk, MSI B350 Krait or ASUS Strix B350-F Gaming Motherboard. So, you will have some expansion slots and four RAM slots.

If you need Mini-ITX. Since it only has two RAM slots. Get 16GB RAM instead of 8GB. So, you won't have to replace the 8GB kit in the future.

 

[Einari Polkko]

Hello ! Late answer but i decided to go with the addons i pointed because i think its cheap price for only 260€ since you didnt totally destroy that build i hope it was not horrible upgrade D: ! The build you suggested will probably cost lot more money because i would have to get it new, i got this build used with some warrantys left so i dont mind! But yeah like i stated i hope it wasnt a terrible buy !
edit: and also ryzens all use the same slot i think so atleast i can upgrade it later !