How Hot can my 6800 get?

[dd_viper]

i recently got a 6800 nu and i checked the temperature after playing a game of farcry. it was at a staggering 77 degrees celcius (roughly 170 degrees fahrenheit if im not mistaken). im a newbie when it comes to gpu's but that seems hotter than a fire in my case. is that an unreasonable amount of heat?

on a totally unrealted question how can i check the temp of my cpu (P4 2.8)? and what fans would you reccomend?

 

[Mr5oh]

77 Does seem a bit warm on the GPU temp. However I asked a very similar question early this week, and pretty much everyone thought it was acceptable. Generally everyone said GPU do run hotter than CPUs. Which 6800 do you have? I have horrible case airflow, and my eVGA 6800 runs a max of about 71° C during intensive things like FarCry and benchmarking.

As far as your motherboard temps there are several utilities to monitor CPU temps. Motherboard Monitor will do it, and is probably what you are looking for. Most manufacturers also provide some sort of program for this.

And for fans. Generally everyone seems to like the Panaflow fans, as they are pretty high quality and relatively quiet. Personally I just go buy a fan, generally a fan is a fan, and if a $2 fan goes out in a year, it's who cares, it was cheap. I bought several generic PC Toys fans for a couple of bucks each, and they have all been spinning 4000 RPM, since I have owned them no problems. Just remember generally with increased airflow you get increased noise, no matter what fan you choose, so decide what is more important.

So which card do you have, also what case? Check your CPU temps also with something like Motherboard Monitor, and post your results.

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[dd_viper]

i have an evga 6800 graphics card. i got my system from ibm (heh my mom got me this system for $300 so i decided ill upgrade when needed)im running a 865G(RH) motherboard and i have no clue what kind of case it is. i also couldnt find any software for my motherboard. does ne1 no what the program would be with a 865g(rh) motherbaord?

this link is my comp, if ne1 could find what kind of case it is then i'd b happy, cuz ive been looking and havent.

http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/products.nsf/$wwwPartNumLookup/_8195E2U

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by dd_viper on 08/26/04 01:32 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[dd_viper]

do you think putting 2 more 120 mm (1 intake, 1 exhaust) fans would help? my nvidia settings are saying that a gpu is running 77 C and the ambient temp is 50. would it help the gpu temp if the ambiet was around 35-40 C?

 

[Mr5oh]

Your case has 120mm fans in it already (That seems a little large, most are 80mm)? If you lowered the ambient temp, your GPU temp would drop quite a bit. Have you tried running the computer without the side panel on? What might help you most is adding a fan down near the video card, just to help get fresh air into card. Another option might be an artic cooler heatsink, but, this generally voids your card's.

Adding a fan would probably require cutting a whole in your case (You need a 3" hole saw, for an 80mm fan). However, if you have a spot on the rear of the case you may try another exhaust fan (Some have an extra spot for an additional fan).

Have you tried something like Motherboard Monitor for your CPU temps yet? Is the computer shut up underneath a desk or something? What about the room it's in, is it air-conditioned? That 77° C is at idle ?

For your card to run that hot, it really sounds like it isn't getting fresh air, possibly recirculating the hot air in that area? Just a guess, though, at the moment.

Try running the computer without the side panel on, and see if it helps any?


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[dd_viper]

I thought about running my comp with no side panel on, but im worried there would b too much dust getting into it. i also thought about a heaksink, but heard it needed 2 pci slots to run. that would completly fill up my pci and agp slots, and allow no more expansion. i wouldnt mind cutting a hold in the case, but could i just cut a few slits in it? like three or four 1/4 inch horizontal slits? i do have a 3 inch by 3 inch spot of open holes in the back. would that be for a exhaust fan? are the exhaust fans the same as the 80mm fans, or are they a completly different type of fan? i have tried mbm on my computer, but i cannot figure out what kind of mobo i have. i no its a 865G(RH), but its from the ibm manufacturer, so its changed to meet ibm's specs. (i found this out when i tried to upgrade my bios and couldn't because it didnt recognize. i also tried calling intel and they couldnt help me either.) the computer is in a case holder, but the furniture is open in the back and it has about 3 inch clearance on either side. the room is air-conditioned, with a pretty stable temp of about 74-76 degrees. ill try running the computer and play d3 and farcry and tell you how it goes temp wise, but im afraid of dust consumption in the case.


i also forgot to mention, i cant find the latest bios for my mobo. as i said i cant use intels and cannot find ibm's. i saw in the guide for the 6800 that they have some reccommended bios settings that you should use. i looked in my bios, but couldnt find any of the things in the list. all i found were 2 or 3 options under the agp bio.

P4 2.8 GHZ
640 MB pc2700 ram
intel 865G(RH)
nvidia 6800nu

 

[dd_viper]

i tried your idea of opening the case up, and ive seen a HUGE change in the temps. i overclocked to 380/800 and benchmarked and the highest temp i got was 63 degrees. thanks a lot for your input, but could you still answer the questions i have on the previous post?

 

[Mr5oh]

Well since taking the case side off made your temps drop, it seems to indicate your case has poor airflow. A case with proper airflow can actually see increase in temps with the side panels off.

As for a fan, a fan is a fan, most computers use 80mm as a standard. Cutting slits would seem rather difficult, since to look good, they would have to be pretty straight. With the hole saw, you just drill the hole in your case, and screw a fan and grill on and you are done. The three inch spot you are talking about is for an 80mm fan. All the fans can be intake or exhaust, you just turn the fan around.

AS far as dust, its not really a big deal, you are going to get dust in there anyways, its smart to clean it out everynow and then anyways.

What AGP options are you looking for? I have not seen the FAQ, or what they are recommend? Just stuff like FastWrite, Aprature Size?

As far as the Artic cooler, do you plan on needing the PCI slots? I know having the option to is nice, however I haven't added a PCI card to my system in a long time, generally I subtract cards as the motherboards I buy keep making stuff on board.

Sounds like a little case modification is in order, and your temps will come back down.

Mainly you just need to get some fresh air into the case. You can leave the case open if you wish, you are correct the dust will build up a little faster, but nothing an air can can't fix.

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[dd_viper]

for the fan spot would you reccommend it be a exhaust or intake?

i plan on using a pci wireless connecter in the future when we get a 802.11g router.but i could disconnect the ethernet and phone line pci card.

the guide says to change the following (it includes more but i dont want to type them all, heh):
assign irq for vga, pnp o/s installed, vga pallet snooping, pci latency timer, pci burning, assign irq to usb, pipline cache write, and cideo ram shadowing, etc.

would i need an intake fan if i got the artic cooler? i am going to get an echuast for the spot on the back, and try and get the artic cooler. they are out of stock everywhere.

do u know of any different mbm type programs, or do u know what kind of mobo i own from my webpage of my comp? (it is a modified ibm mobo)

o and what was ur ideal core and memory overclock speeds? im gunna mess around with riva today, but just wanted to know.

 

[Mr5oh]

If you were adding a fan spot near the video card, I would make it an intake, that way your video card gets fresh out side air, it wouldn't hurt to try it both ways however, and either way, you will need an exhaust fan on the rear.

You won't have all that stuff in your BIOS, all BIOSs are different, and they will list just about everything, just for reference. A lot of that stuff most BIOS will do automatically (Assign IRQ for VGA/USB, older motherboards didn't used to do this, most new ones do it automatically, unless you tell it to do otherwise.).

Just off the top of my head, I know PCWizard04 should be able to tell you your temps. As far as your board, it should tell you that also, it is going to be some sort of IBM board.

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If you got the artic cooler, you may still need to add a fan. The Artic cooler would be much better than the stock heatsink, just becuase it would at least blow the hot air out side the case. However, by changing the heatsink you void the warranty, and obvisuly airflow is your problem, not the heatsink. Yes the artic cooler would help, by how much, depends on what the hot air is actually doing inside your case.

My card seems to do best with the core set to 390 and the mem set to 800. Any faster and my scores tend to drop.

So you said the back doesn't have an exhaust fan? Does your case currently have fans? And if so, where?

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[dd_viper]

my case has 1 small measly fan blowing straight at the cpu, i belive. but im sure thats there is only 1 fan, besides the gpu fan. there is no echuast in the back.

 

[Mr5oh]

Thats most likely your problem, your case should really have a minimum of two fans. one intake and one exhaust, try adding these first, intake in the front, and an exhaust in the rear. You don't have to have the intake, but you have to have the exhaust in the rear.

If you don't have an exhaust fan blowing hot air out, and sucking in fresh air, no wonder it runs hot, it probably has hot air sitting in there all the time.

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