How is this build for 1800 Euro?

[frannymaccy]

Approximate Purchase Date: within next week or two.

Budget Range: Want to push 1800 euro as far as it can go before shipping w/o peripherals.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Movies, Music, Internet

Are you buying a monitor: No

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: hardwareversand.de? Not sure

Location: Dublin, Ireland

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Yes

Your Monitor Resolution: 2560 X 1440

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: I've been playing Doom + Counter Strike + Lucasarts point and clicks long enough - I wanna play modded Skrim and GTA4, Battlefield 4, Rome 2, titles in the series of Bioshock, Mass Effect, Far Cry, Tomb Raider, Metro, all at the max possible, as well as upcoming stuff like Witcher 3, Titanfall and Star Citizen.

Current choices, can this set-up be improved? (without compromising on storage space, I'd really rather double the SSD and HDD space but...)

i7 4670K - €202
Asus Z87 Pro - €165
8GB-Kit G.Skill RipJaws PC3-8500U CL7 - €70
Storm Trooper Case - €138
Sapphire Radeon R9 290 x 2 (€362 each) - €724
Corsair Enthusiast Series RM1000, Modular, 80 Plus Gold 1000 Watt - €159
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB - €187
WD Blue 1TB 7200 - €51
Noctua NH-D14 - €78
Samsung SH 224 - €15

Total Price:

1.794,72 €

 

[g-unit1111]

Go with a single GTX 780 or 780TI over a reference R9 290. And then you can cut the PSU back a bit to a 750W - 850W. What store are you buying parts from?

 

[TheMohammadmo]

Here you go heres a different build
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£233.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master V8 GTS 82.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£65.96 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VI FORMULA ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£219.44 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£63.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Corsair Neutron Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£153.90 @ Scan.co.uk)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card (£551.66 @ PC World Business)
Case: Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower Case (£134.35 @ Dabs)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£113.23 @ Aria PC)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer (£17.35 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1595.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-28 23:06 GMT+0000)

SLI or crosffire dont make a major increase. They make at max a 50% increase. In my opinion two 290 are equivalent to the beast 780ti. I think this is the best build for the money. The psu is capable if you want to sli later on. Also, there is a really nice red/black color scheme with the whole entire build

 

[frannymaccy]

Go with a single GTX 780 or 780TI over a reference R9 290. And then you can cut the PSU back a bit to a 750W - 850W. What store are you buying parts from?

hardwareversand.de

So I won't get more performance out of a pair of 290s than a single 780 ti?

 

[TheMohammadmo]

No there really isnt much increase in performance.

 

[HiTechObsessed]

In a lot of the SLI capable games, the 760, 770 and 780 see very close to double performance with a 2-way SLI setup....

This setup would completely dominate a single 780 Ti setup:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (€206.85 @ Amazon Deutschland)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (€33.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: MSI Z87M GAMING Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€149.64 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€69.98 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (€76.45 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€53.90 @ Caseking)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) (€461.50 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) (€461.50 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Corsair 350D Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case (€99.90 @ Caseking)
Power Supply: Fractal Design Tesla R2 800W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (€129.67 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (€17.95 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1761.24
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-29 00:21 CET+0100)

 

[frannymaccy]

Here you go heres a different build
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£233.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master V8 GTS 82.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£65.96 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VI FORMULA ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£219.44 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£63.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Corsair Neutron Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£153.90 @ Scan.co.uk)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card (£551.66 @ PC World Business)
Case: Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower Case (£134.35 @ Dabs)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£113.23 @ Aria PC)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer (£17.35 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1595.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-28 23:06 GMT+0000)

SLI or crosffire dont make a major increase. They make at max a 50% increase. In my opinion two 290 are equivalent to the beast 780ti. I think this is the best build for the money. The psu is capable if you want to sli later on. Also, there is a really nice red/black color scheme with the whole entire build

Thanks, this comes a bit over my available budget in euro though

 

[frannymaccy]

I don't mean to be rude but I haven't selected a best answer yet. Must have clicked something by accident, sorry!

 

[TheMohammadmo]

Thats a nice build but you have a fractal design cpu which isnt really well know. You should switch that out for the rm850 or something like that. Also it will be kind of jam packed beacuse you have a sli 780 so it will make it less airflow and be a bit harder with cable managment especially because the psu isnt modular. I dont really get why you got a bit lower end parts just for the sake of a sli 780. He isnt doing some three way sli monitor setup at 1440p and doing hard core gaming with gunnar optic glasses lol. Just minor comparison, my build is cheaper, better cpu, better cpu cooler in my opinion you could degree if you wanted. Bigger ssd, bigger and better case with amazing cooling and space. Better psu.

 

[TheMohammadmo]

What do you mean by available budget. You said in the beginning that your budget is 1800 euros.

 

[g-unit1111]

Thats a nice build but you have a fractal design cpu which isnt really well know. You should switch that out for the rm850 or something like that. Also it will be kind of jam packed beacuse you have a sli 780 so it will make it less airflow and be a bit harder with cable managment especially because the psu isnt modular. I dont really get why you got a bit lower end parts just for the sake of a sli 780. He isnt doing some three way sli monitor setup at 1440p and doing hard core gaming with gunnar optic glasses lol. Just minor comparison, my build is cheaper, better cpu, better cpu cooler in my opinion you could degree if you wanted. Bigger ssd, bigger and better case with amazing cooling and space. Better psu.

You mean a Fractal Design case? They're fairly well known and highly regarded at that. Their PSUs, not so much.

 

[HiTechObsessed]

You did your build based on pounds, and is actually over 150 euros MORE expensive. You can swap out my PSU for the one you chose and still come in under budget.

1440 is hard on GPUs. I know the 780 Ti is a beast, but SLI 780s destroy a single 780 Ti. And the 350d has no problems whatsoever with airflow, it's a hell of a case. Size isn't the only factor when it comes to cooling.

The only part in my build that was even slightly lower quality was the PSU, which as I stated above, is a non-issue, as he could easily change that and stay under budget. If you were referring to the motherboard, the Maximus VI is very overpriced, but that's just an opinion I guess. And RAM is RAM.

Updated build with a 'better' PSU:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (€206.85 @ Amazon Deutschland)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (€33.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: MSI Z87M GAMING Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€149.64 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€69.98 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (€76.45 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€53.90 @ Caseking)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) (€461.50 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) (€461.50 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Corsair 350D Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case (€99.90 @ Caseking)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€139.90 @ Caseking)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (€17.95 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1771.47
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-29 00:35 CET+0100)

 

[TheMohammadmo]

No I didnt mean the case, I mean the psu. I was confused by why he selected the psu. When I said bigger and better case, I was refering not about popularity but how my case has better cooling. And better because it looks better especially with my builds color scheme.

 

[frannymaccy]

What do you mean by available budget. You said in the beginning that your budget is 1800 euros.

You gave a build that comes in at £1595.86, which is about 1936 euros. If I was to buy from those stores liste I would also have to pay a high percentage of VAT to import from the UK.

From my site it comes to about 1900 euros, without VAT. Better but I'm fairly tight about needing to stay under 1800 here, no stretching, and no crossfiring/sli later if I don't work it into current setup

 

[TheMohammadmo]

There we go know thats a better build. I didnt pay much attention to the euro and pound. My bad right there.

 

[HiTechObsessed]

franny, take a look a my build I posted just above yours. Comes in under your budget.

And yes, he did. You were doing yours in POUNDS (the L looking thing). Which is why he said it comes out to being way over budget.

 

[frannymaccy]

franny, take a look a my build I posted just above yours. Comes in under your budget.

Thanks very much. Even better the same build comes in at 1724 euro on hardwareversand. One last thing, if I input 2x Sapphire Radeon R9 290X OC instead of the 780s I still come in @ 1792 euro... Would crossfire 290X have a performance advantage against sli 780? Thanks.

 

[HiTechObsessed]

They perform about the same, but the 290x is MUCH hotter and power hungry. I would stick with the 780s, unless you just happen to like AMD better than NVIDIA. Both are great options, I would just recommend the 780s.

Also, with the 780s, you get NVIDIAs drivers, which are much better in SLI than CrossFire 290x

 

[frannymaccy]

They perform about the same, but the 290x is MUCH hotter and power hungry. I would stick with the 780s, unless you just happen to like AMD better than NVIDIA. Both are great options, I would just recommend the 780s.

Also, with the 780s, you get NVIDIAs drivers, which are much better in SLI than CrossFire 290x

Thanks, I'm going with your recommended build

 

[HiTechObsessed]

No problem, glad to help You'll be very happy with the pair of 780s!

 

[TheMohammadmo]

I changed the best answer to hitechobsessed build. Your welcome

 

[g-unit1111]

I changed the best answer to hitechobsessed build. Your welcome

You really shouldn't do that, some of the other moderators around here might tag you for gaming the best answer system. Fair warning.

 

[frannymaccy]

Thanks to everyone for the advice.

 

[TheMohammadmo]

Confused by the gaming the best answer. What do you mean by that? If you mean just giving it to him for no reason, thats not true, me and franny all agreed that his build was the best in a way.

 

[g-unit1111]

Confused by the gaming the best answer. What do you mean by that? If you mean just giving it to him for no reason, thats not true, me and franny all agreed that his build was the best in a way.

Yeah but let the OP decide which answer is best. We can continue this in a PM.