How is this build list for an ULTIMATE GAMING BEAST?

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So how is this PCPartPicker List, for an ultimate gaming beast ? :star:
This is the build which I have created for an ultimate gaming monster: :sol:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Eisberg 240L Prestige 60.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($159.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X41 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Prolimatech PK-3 Nano Aluminum High-Grade 30g Thermal Paste ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-DELUXE(NFC&WLC) ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($377.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Avexir Core Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-3100 Memory ($979.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Avexir Core Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-3100 Memory ($979.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 450 Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($433.54 @ Amazon)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 450 Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($433.54 @ Amazon)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 450 Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($433.54 @ Amazon)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 450 Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($433.54 @ Amazon)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 450 Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($433.54 @ Amazon)
Storage: OCZ Z-Drive R4 CM84 600GB PCI-E Solid State Drive ($4504.78 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX Titan Z 12GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($3006.13 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX Titan Z 12GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($3006.13 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi Window XL (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($169.90 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair AX1500i 1500W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($449.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS224-06 DVD/CD Writer ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG BH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($88.58 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional (32/64-bit) ($171.50 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Acer T232HLbmidz ( UM.VT2AA.001) 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($417.99 @ Best Buy)
Monitor: Dell UP3214Q 60Hz 31.5" Monitor ($2179.99 @ Adorama)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar Essence STX 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($186.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Xigmatek CLF-F1255 68.3 CFM 120mm Fan ($13.98 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: NZXT FZ-120mm LED 59.1 CFM 120mm Fan ($11.41 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: BitFenix BFF-SPRO-P14025KK-RP 122.2 CFM 140mm Fan ($16.55 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: Delta Electronics FFB1212EHE-F00 190.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master JetFlo 95.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($16.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: Cooler Master JetFlo 95.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($16.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: Cooler Master JetFlo 95.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($16.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: Cooler Master JetFlo 95.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master JetFlo 95.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Razer Ouroboros Wireless Laser Mouse ($130.27 @ NCIX US)
Headphones: Sennheiser MM 550-X Headset ($399.00 @ Newegg)
Speakers: Logitech Z906 500W 5.1ch Speakers ($298.55 @ Amazon)
Other: Netgear D6300 WiFi Modem Router - Wireless Router - DSL Built In/Fiber Ready ($274.00)
Other: Intel Core i7 Extreme Haswell Edition Sticker ($2.22)
Other: WD My Passport Ultra 2TB Portable External USB 3.0 Hard Drive ($116.00)
Other: Asus (Powered by Asus) Sticker ($5.99)
Other: Nvidia SLI Sticker ($2.38)
Other: Nvidia GeForce GTX Sticker ($6.00)
Other: Silverstone FP56 USB 3.0 Multifunction Card Reader with 3x USB 3.0, 1x high speed charging port ($39.00)
Other: BitFenix BFA-ACL-60GK30-RP Alchemy Connect LED-Strip Green 60cm ($27.99)
Other: BitFenix BFA-ACL-60GK30-RP Alchemy Connect LED-Strip Green 60cm ($27.99)
Other: Minuteman E1500RT2U EnterprisePlus LCD Series 1500VA (1200 Watt) Line Interactive 8 Outlets Rack/Tower UPS ($470.00)
Other: Sauder Edge Water Executive Desk (Estate Black) ($328.97)
Other: HP Officejet Pro 8500A Premium Wireless e-All-in-One printer ($999.00)
Other: Akasa FC.Trio 3-Channel Aluminium Fan Controller (30W per channel) ($40.99)
Other: Lamptron FC5 v3 - 6 Channel 30W LCD Fan Controller (Black) ($95.89)
Other: Windows 8 Pro (Professional) Silver Metal Sticker 16.5 x 23mm Case Badge ($2.39)
Total: $22861.07
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

I think this is the most ultimate monster ever, right? 😀
If you have any thoughts/suggestions, please post it.
All posts are welcomed. 😉 :)
 
You will know how "ultimate" this thing is when looking at monthly electrical bill

Plus, 22k USD for gaming is a pure waste, give me 1k5 ~ 2k and I will max out everything in 1080p or 1440p, 4k ~ 6k for 4K
 
Obvious Troll is Obvious. Waste of cash on almost every item. 12GB Titans are more for scientific computing, not gaming. DDR3-3100 probably won't change your gaming performance all that much. One solid state drive, or maybe 2, would be fine and then some spinning storage for your media and things makes far more sense financially.

It looks kind of like you just went on a site and picked the most expensive things you could rather than designing a good machine.
 
But now I have updated my list, as it's a waste of money as many people have told. 😀 So here is my updated version:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Eisberg 240L Prestige 60.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($159.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X41 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Prolimatech PK-3 Nano Aluminum High-Grade 30g Thermal Paste ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-DELUXE(NFC&WLC) ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($377.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-3000 Memory ($1199.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 450 Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($433.54 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital WD VelociRaptor 1TB 2.5" 10000RPM Internal Hard Drive ($248.60 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX Titan Z 12GB Video Card ($3006.13 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi Window XL (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($169.90 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: be quiet! Dark Power Pro 10 1200W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($319.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG BH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($88.58 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional (32/64-bit) ($171.50 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Acer T232HLbmidz ( UM.VT2AA.001) 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($417.99 @ Best Buy)
Case Fan: Xigmatek CLF-F1255 68.3 CFM 120mm Fan ($13.98 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: NZXT FZ-120mm LED 59.1 CFM 120mm Fan ($11.41 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Delta Electronics FFB1212EHE-F00 190.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master JetFlo 95.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($16.64 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Cooler Master JetFlo 95.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Razer DeathStalker Ultimate Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Touchpad ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer Ouroboros Wireless Laser Mouse ($130.27 @ NCIX US)
Headphones: Sennheiser MM 550-X Headset ($399.00 @ Newegg)
Speakers: Corsair Gaming Audio Series SP2500 232W 2.1ch Speakers ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Other: Intel Core i7 Extreme Haswell Edition Sticker ($2.22)
Other: Asus (Powered by Asus) Sticker ($5.99)
Other: Nvidia SLI Sticker ($2.38)
Other: Nvidia GeForce GTX Sticker ($6.00)
Other: Silverstone FP56 USB 3.0 Multifunction Card Reader with 3x USB 3.0, 1x high speed charging port ($39.00)
Other: BitFenix BFA-ACL-60GK30-RP Alchemy Connect LED-Strip Green 60cm ($27.99)
Other: BitFenix BFA-ACL-60GK30-RP Alchemy Connect LED-Strip Green 60cm ($27.99)
Other: Minuteman E1500RT2U EnterprisePlus LCD Series 1500VA (1200 Watt) Line Interactive 8 Outlets Rack/Tower UPS ($470.00)
Other: Akasa FC.Trio 3-Channel Aluminium Fan Controller (30W per channel) ($40.99)
Other: Lamptron FC5 v3 - 6 Channel 30W LCD Fan Controller (Black) ($95.89)
Other: Windows 8 Pro (Professional) Silver Metal Sticker 16.5 x 23mm Case Badge ($2.39)
Total: $8888.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

I think this one is OK.
 
Here is my next updated list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Eisberg 240L Prestige 60.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($159.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X41 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Prolimatech PK-3 Nano Aluminum High-Grade 30g Thermal Paste ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-DELUXE(NFC&WLC) ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($377.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-3000 Memory ($1199.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 450 Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($433.54 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital WD VelociRaptor 1TB 2.5" 10000RPM Internal Hard Drive ($248.60 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX Titan Z 12GB Video Card ($3006.13 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi Window XL (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($169.90 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: be quiet! Dark Power Pro 10 1200W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($319.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG BH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($88.58 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional (32/64-bit) ($171.50 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Acer T232HLbmidz ( UM.VT2AA.001) 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($417.99 @ Best Buy)
Case Fan: Xigmatek CLF-F1255 68.3 CFM 120mm Fan ($13.98 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: NZXT FZ-120mm LED 59.1 CFM 120mm Fan ($11.41 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Delta Electronics FFB1212EHE-F00 190.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master JetFlo 95.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($16.64 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Cooler Master JetFlo 95.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($16.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Keyboard: Razer DeathStalker Ultimate Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Touchpad ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer Ouroboros Wireless Laser Mouse ($130.27 @ NCIX US)
Headphones: Sennheiser MM 550-X Headset ($399.00 @ Newegg)
Speakers: Corsair Gaming Audio Series SP2500 232W 2.1ch Speakers ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Other: Asus (Powered by Asus) Sticker ($5.99)
Other: Nvidia GeForce GTX Sticker ($6.00)
Other: Silverstone FP56 USB 3.0 Multifunction Card Reader with 3x USB 3.0, 1x high speed charging port ($39.00)
Other: BitFenix BFA-ACL-60GK30-RP Alchemy Connect LED-Strip Green 60cm ($27.99)
Other: BitFenix BFA-ACL-60GK30-RP Alchemy Connect LED-Strip Green 60cm ($27.99)
Other: Akasa FC.Trio 3-Channel Aluminium Fan Controller (30W per channel) ($40.99)
Other: Lamptron FC5 v3 - 6 Channel 30W LCD Fan Controller (Black) ($95.89)
Other: Windows 8 Pro (Professional) Silver Metal Sticker 16.5 x 23mm Case Badge ($2.39)
Other: Intel Core i7 Blue Haswell Edition Sticker ($2.33)
Other: Minuteman PRO-RT PRO1500RT 1500 VA 1050 Watts 8 Outlets UPS ($349.00)
Total: $8764.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 


His concepts may be wrong, but I doubt if he is trolling.. I think he is sincerely trying to theorycraft though he has totally gone far off from gaming concept with his list.

 


Oh my goodness, 8k8 USD and still 4790K and 16 gigs of ram?You need to troll better than that

This is how we call "ultimate gaming machine"

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Kqp7pg
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Kqp7pg/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4960X Extreme Edition 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($1049.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Best Buy)
Motherboard: Asus P9X79-E WS SSI CEB LGA2011 Motherboard ($446.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 64GB (8 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($600.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($439.95 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($419.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 295X2 8GB Core Edition Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($1472.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 295X2 8GB Core Edition Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($1472.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Rosewill BLACKHAWK-ULTRA ATX Full Tower Case ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair AX1500i 1500W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($449.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional (32/64-bit) ($171.50 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus PB287Q 60Hz 28.0" Monitor ($612.99 @ B&H)
Monitor: Asus PB287Q 60Hz 28.0" Monitor ($612.99 @ B&H)
Monitor: Asus PB287Q 60Hz 28.0" Monitor ($612.99 @ B&H)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar Phoebus 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($197.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: Enermax UCTVT12P 67.5 CFM 120mm Fan ($40.39 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Enermax UCTVT12P 67.5 CFM 120mm Fan ($40.39 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Enermax UCTVT12P 67.5 CFM 120mm Fan ($40.39 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Enermax UCTVT12P 67.5 CFM 120mm Fan ($40.39 @ Amazon)
Fan Controller: NZXT Sentry Mix 2 Fan Controller ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Ultimate Wired Gaming Keyboard ($111.98 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Speakers: Logitech Z906 500W 5.1ch Speakers ($298.55 @ Amazon)
Total: $9509.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

This wins hands down, so we should stop the thread here
😉
 
here is my next updated list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Eisberg 240L Prestige 60.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($159.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X41 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Prolimatech PK-3 Nano Aluminum High-Grade 30g Thermal Paste ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-DELUXE(NFC&WLC) ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($377.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-3000 Memory ($1199.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 450 Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($433.54 @ Amazon)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 450 Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($433.54 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital WD VelociRaptor 1TB 2.5" 10000RPM Internal Hard Drive ($248.60 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 295X2 8GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($1499.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 295X2 8GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($1499.99 @ Amazon)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi Window XL (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($169.90 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Enermax Platimax 1350W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($294.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG BH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($88.58 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional (32/64-bit) ($171.50 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Acer T232HLbmidz ( UM.VT2AA.001) 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($417.99 @ Best Buy)
Monitor: Dell UP3214Q 60Hz 31.5" Monitor ($2179.99 @ Adorama)
Case Fan: Xigmatek CLF-F1255 68.3 CFM 120mm Fan ($13.98 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: NZXT FZ-120mm LED 59.1 CFM 120mm Fan ($11.41 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Delta Electronics FFB1212EHE-F00 190.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master JetFlo 95.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($16.64 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Cooler Master JetFlo 95.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($16.64 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Cooler Master JetFlo 95.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($16.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: Cooler Master JetFlo 95.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($16.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Keyboard: Razer DeathStalker Ultimate Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Touchpad ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer Ouroboros Wireless Laser Mouse ($130.27 @ NCIX US)
Headphones: Sennheiser MM 550-X Headset ($399.00 @ Newegg)
Speakers: Corsair Gaming Audio Series SP2500 232W 2.1ch Speakers ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Other: Asus (Powered by Asus) Sticker ($5.99)
Other: Silverstone FP56 USB 3.0 Multifunction Card Reader with 3x USB 3.0, 1x high speed charging port ($39.00)
Other: BitFenix BFA-ACL-60GK30-RP Alchemy Connect LED-Strip Green 60cm ($27.99)
Other: BitFenix BFA-ACL-60GK30-RP Alchemy Connect LED-Strip Green 60cm ($27.99)
Other: Akasa FC.Trio 3-Channel Aluminium Fan Controller (30W per channel) ($40.99)
Other: Lamptron FC5 v3 - 6 Channel 30W LCD Fan Controller (Black) ($95.89)
Other: Windows 8 Pro (Professional) Silver Metal Sticker 16.5 x 23mm Case Badge ($2.39)
Other: Intel Core i7 Blue Haswell Edition Sticker ($2.33)
Other: Minuteman PRO-RT PRO1500RT 1500 VA 1050 Watts 8 Outlets UPS ($349.00)
Other: AMD Radeon Sticker ($2.99)
Total: $11377.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 


Please help me.
Can you please make a $1000 intel based non overclocking gaming system for me on www.flipkart.com? help me select CPU, GPU, PSU, RAM and cabinet ? I already have keyboard mouse dvd/rw and screen .. wont need to buy those... here is one that was made for me based on AMD .. http://www.flipkart.com/wishlist/eetuhk-9779

Intention: games like planetside 2 .. should run on good fps for next atleast 2.5 years on ultra high .. and may be games which come after that on high settings for next 2.5 years... something in $1000 which will last me for next 5-6 years of gaming.. most importantly, i dont overclock .. so dont think on future OC terms... thanks.
thanks a loads dude.
 


No blu-ray dvd.
Old chipset.
asus rampage iv black edition is a better mobo than p9x79.
I don't need 3 displays.
xonar essence stx is better than phoebus
only 2 usb 3.0 ports
ocz vertex 450 is faster than evo 1tb.
so my updated list is better.
and yours is 9k, old gen pc.

 


1. If you spend 9k5$ for a gaming rig, adding a bluray isn't a problem
2. I don't need "flashy" mobo with ROG brand. This X79 is a workstation grade, which has better durability and phase to power up the CPU than even regular X79
3. Your opinion, no discussing
4. a 9K$ needs a 4Kx3 (11K) monitors, else you are wasting money
5. 2 USB 3.0 is enough for me, it's gaming oriented, not data storage oriented
6. I prefer samsung SSD, again, user opinion
7. I can wait for X99 and Haswell-E, I would never spend 9k dollars for normal haswell
8. Having money for such rigs, 500$ extra is no problem
 


I have developed one for you at http://www.flipkart.com/wishlist/adithya.r02-3196 at $1008 (Rs. 60,684)
 


Thanks for all the replies, guys. So please tell me properly, what should I do?
 


Spend 2000$ on a gaming rig, the rest save it later so that you can buy a car
 


Thanks a lot! I will spend $2000 for my pc.
 


Yeah really dat bill doe!
 


Remember to SLI 2 780 Tis, buy a cheap Asus 4K monitor and use 4770K or 4790K only, don't waste on extreme line processor
 
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