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Going for a red/black theme, made for high performance gaming, and improvements you can spot that I can take advantage of?
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£303.54 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 LED 66.3 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler (£21.99 @ Eclipse Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming K6 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£163.47 @ BT Shop)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£155.27 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£133.20 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GAMING X Video Card (£659.90 @ Alza)
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case (£76.44 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: BitFenix - Whisper M 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£84.95 @ CCL Computers)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter (£28.95 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: Cooler Master - SickleFlow (Red) 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan (£5.19 @ Ebuyer)
Case Fan: Cooler Master - SickleFlow (Red) 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan (£5.19 @ Ebuyer)
Case Fan: Cooler Master - SickleFlow (Red) 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan (£5.19 @ Ebuyer)
Case Fan: Cooler Master - SickleFlow (Red) 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan (£5.19 @ Ebuyer)
Monitor: Asus - PG279Q ROG Swift 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor (£694.98 @ Aria PC)
Other: IKEA Malm Desk (black-brown) (£115.00)
Other: Pro elec 6 gang extension lead (£5.79)
Other: 4x 16 scotch mounting squares (£10.38)
Other: 5m led strip (£18.99)
Other: x130 twist ties (£5.04)
Other: x50 cable clips (£4.09)
Other: x100 adjustable Velcro straps (£8.50)
Other: Anti static wrist strap (£3.69)
Other: QCK XXL mouse mat (£32.99)
Total: £2547.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-05 20:33 BST+0100
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Tracking issues are normally tied back to patterns in the surface that the mouse is on. If two consecutive scans are similar enough, the mouse can't tell which way it's been moved. Paper's texture doesn't have a pattern in it. The fibers are arranged almost randomly. That makes it much easier for optical sensors to track on it, as the texture that's scanned is guaranteed to be unique. The issues I've had with mouse pads all occur on pads with a pattern to the texture.

Regarding the fans, you can't see them from the front, but the lighting effects can bleed through the intake ports for a pretty awesome effect when you do it right. Lighting from the fans also shows through the side window.
I wouldn't get those fans. If you want better airflow, get either the Silent Wings 3 or NH-F12/NF-A14 iPPCs. Note that additional fans won't improve your temps by much.

I would also recommend a different PSU. Consider either the EVGA G2 650 or the RM650x.

Modern mice don't need a mouse pad, either.

For that resolution, the GTX 1080 is a better buy. Even that's overkill, though.

For the case, I'd recommend either the H440 or the Fractal Design R5, depending on whether looks or acoustics are more important to you. The S340 Elite doesn't have much room to expand, and it doesn't have great acoustics. It's respectable for the price, though.
 
I wouldn't get those fans. If you want better airflow, get either the Silent Wings 3 or NH-F12/NF-A14 iPPCs. Note that additional fans won't improve your temps by much.

I would also recommend a different PSU. Consider either the EVGA G2 650 or the RM650x.

Modern mice don't need a mouse pad, either.

For that resolution, the GTX 1080 is a better buy. Even that's overkill, though.

For the case, I'd recommend either the H440 or the Fractal Design R5, depending on whether looks or acoustics are more important to you. The S340 Elite doesn't have much room to expand, and it doesn't have great acoustics. It's respectable for the price, though.

I appreciate the help, will take into account the fans and PSU

The mousepad is for gaming, I have a £60 gaming mouse and I'm not going to waste it's potential on a desk surface 😛

Regarding the resolution, my monitor is 165Hz, meaning I need 165 frames for maximum performance and also minimum input lag etc, a 1080ti seems optimal for 1440p 165Hz gaming to me.

I'll look more into cases, more into aesthetics as long as the airflow is decent
 


The more competitive games, where 165 Hz may make a slight difference, generally have lower GPU requirements. There's really not much reason to go beyond the GTX 1080. After all, 165 Hz is basically useless on Civ VI and AoS. There's also the noise issue. The 1080 Ti is significantly louder than a normal 1080. It's a trade off to consider, that's all.

Regarding cases, there's an argument to be made for acoustics with competitive gaming. Specifically, the noise of the computer can sometimes mask in-game sounds. A quieter case prevents that to a degree. Again, this is simply something to consider as you shop.

Regarding the mouse pad, I've found that my gaming mice (essentially every G5-series mouse Logitech has made from the original to the G502, totaling 17 mice across 4 models) track better on a desk than they do on a pad. The texture of mouse pads can throw off some laser sensors. This is less of an issue with the G502, but it's still there. All of these mice track best on a sheet of white printer paper.
 
I understand that competitive games don't tend to be graphically intensive, but running any fps game at 144+Hz in my opinion feels amazing, games like overwatch can run a 1080ti at 1440p at max settings at around 170-200 frames. I understand what you mean by lower you requirements though, a ti can probably run csgo at 500+ frames 😛

Regardless I'm sticking with my GPU and monitor.

Oh and trust me, mouse pads give you much more control over your mouse movements. With a desk, I find whenever I move my mouse it glides a few millimetres even after my hand has stopped moving. That could be the difference between a headshot and a complete miss. But we all have our own opinions I guess

Anyway, here's the new list, went with the h440, the fans are supposed to be good for airflow and relatively quiet, they also look slick af.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£303.54 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 LED 66.3 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler (£21.99 @ Eclipse Computers)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver - 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste (£6.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming K6 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£163.47 @ BT Shop)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£155.27 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£133.20 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GAMING X Video Card (£659.90 @ Alza)
Case: NZXT - H440 (Matte Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case (£98.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£83.99 @ Amazon UK)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter (£28.95 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: Corsair - Air Series AF120 Red 52.2 CFM 120mm Fan (£10.48 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: Corsair - Air Series AF120 Red 52.2 CFM 120mm Fan (£10.48 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: Corsair - Air Series AF120 Red 52.2 CFM 120mm Fan (£10.48 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: Corsair - Air Series AF140 Red 66.4 CFM 140mm Fan (£13.98 @ Ebuyer)
Monitor: Asus - PG279Q ROG Swift 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor (£694.98 @ Aria PC)
Other: IKEA Malm Desk (black-brown) (£115.00)
Other: Pro elec 6 gang extension lead (£5.79)
Other: 4x 16 scotch mounting squares (£10.38)
Other: 5m led strip (£18.99)
Other: x130 twist ties (£5.04)
Other: x50 cable clips (£4.09)
Other: x100 adjustable Velcro straps (£8.50)
Other: Anti static wrist strap (£3.69)
Other: QCK XXL mouse mat (£32.99)
Total: £2600.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-05 23:42 BST+0100
 
I got some of those fans about two years ago, and I couldn't stand the sound of them. You should be aware of that before getting them. It's not that they're loud, it's that they whine.

I would recommend checking out thermalbench.com for info on the best fans. The Silent Wings 3 is one of the best, but it's a bit more expensive. Between the AFs and the SickleFlows, I'd honestly get the CMs simply because of the AF's whine.

The only thing I'll say regarding mouse tracking is that you should try taping a sheet of paper to your desk and trying it out for a while. It costs less than £0.10, and it's served me well since my CS 1.5 days. If you like the results, it saves you £33. If not, it costs you practically nothing.
 
Thanks for info on fans, I have one question though, are the front panel fans visible from the window or are they concealed? If they're concealed then i can forget about aesthetics

Lmao, I guess I'll try you're rather strange paper mouse pad method, but tbh a piece of paper would look weird, especially since the theme of this build is black and red lol.
 
Tracking issues are normally tied back to patterns in the surface that the mouse is on. If two consecutive scans are similar enough, the mouse can't tell which way it's been moved. Paper's texture doesn't have a pattern in it. The fibers are arranged almost randomly. That makes it much easier for optical sensors to track on it, as the texture that's scanned is guaranteed to be unique. The issues I've had with mouse pads all occur on pads with a pattern to the texture.

Regarding the fans, you can't see them from the front, but the lighting effects can bleed through the intake ports for a pretty awesome effect when you do it right. Lighting from the fans also shows through the side window.
 
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