Question How to benchmark my 12GB MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X ?

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Hi all,
I bought and installed a new graphic card12GB MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X ?

I used Unigine 4 Benchmark and scored less that some older cards like gtx 1050.
The temperature was around 78 degree celsius.
Here are results:
https://ibb.co/vXPS3BV

My questions
1. How to do a proper benchmark for my gpu and what free tool to use to see a graph of temperature across time ?
Unigine showed temperature oonly at current time but now how it developed.
2. Is idle time of 53-55 degree celsius fine for this card ? And 78-80 degree on a 4 minutes unigine benchmark?

Thank you!
 
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  1. Use MSI Afterburner or GPU-z (GPU-z can log data to a CSV file, which you can view as a spreadsheet on spreadsheet apps)
  2. Assuming your card has a zero-fan mode, idle temps in the 50s are expected. And temperatures near 80 when running for a while are also expected.
The only caveat here is Heaven (that particular Unigine 4 benchmark) is old, so depending on the settings, it may cause the benchmark to be more CPU bound than GPU bound. Use their Superposition demo. I believe 3D Mark also comes with Time Spy for free, which is a much better representation for modern games.

If you're confused at how a graphics benchmark could become CPU bound, it's because the CPU still has to tell the GPU what to do. The CPU is what sets the maximum frame rate the system can achieve. But generally speaking, the easier it is for the GPU to achieve higher frame rates (low quality settings, earlier 3D applications, designed for low-end systems, etc), the more likely CPU bound the test will be.

Also it'd be very helpful to have a point of reference outside of your own so you know that the card is performing as expected.
 
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cris_cs7 said:
I used Unigine 4 Benchmark and scored less that some older cards like gtx 1050.
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Seems about right.
You definitely didn't score higher with GTX 1050 with these settings - 1440p, 4xAA, Ultra Quality, Extreme Tessellation.
Only if you used different settings before.

Here - same benchmark results with RTX 3060 ti from techpowerup site.

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/unigine-heaven-4-0-benchmark-scores-part-2.222125/page-29
 
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Thank you ! I will use superposition as suggested now to benchmark again.

My biggest concern is temperature.

What do you think of 53-55 celsius degree idle time and 77-80 degree celsius usage time (in unigine 4 benchmark)

Is that too much for my graphic card, should I be concerned or try get more case coolers etc or is fine.
I see conflicting answers in other threads
 
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cris_cs7 said:
Thank you ! I will use superposition as suggested now to benchmark again.

My biggest concern is temperature.

What do you think of 53-55 celsius degree idle time and 77-80 degree celsius usage time (in unigine 4 benchmark)

Is that too much for my graphic card, should I be concerned or try get more case coolers etc or is fine.
I see conflicting answers in other threads
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gpus tends to heat, gpu temperature wont matter much, most manufacturers setup fan profiles to something like 50% fan speed at 80C for low noise
if gpu doesnt overheat (90C+) and your PC ambient temperature wont overheat your CPU, then your case airflow is ok aswell
 
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Thanks I see.
I bought this new graphic card mostly because of having crashes in Rome II Total War with previous card GTX 1650 4gb.
Not sure if GPU was the issue but I notiiced GPU run att 100% back then whhen having lot of units on field and game crashed. Read online it happens if gpu heats a lot game crashes...

Then bought this carrd which costs me a lot. Real test in gameplay will came on weekend for the moment would like to benchmark to make sure my airflow and all setup is fine. Have also 7 days return window as well just in case. So need to ensure card works fine no defects and also I setup it correctly
 
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What model PSU are you using?
Can you show a photo of PSU label?

Can you show a photo of your system with side panel removed?
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  1. PSU is: 650 Watt be quiet! Straight Power 11 80 Plus Gold
  2. CPU: Ryzen 5 5600X 6x 3.70GHz
I will make photo from transparent side of case. The psu is below the metal frame (which came with the case) and the fan is pointing up.
That metal box is separrating psu fan from motherboard
The case has only 2 coolers, the blue led right bottom one and up left one without light.
The cpu has a purchased Noctua NH-U12S cooler

Gpu fan is under the gpu,

Photo:
https://ibb.co/qN9bpPq
 
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cris_cs7 said:
PSU is: 650 Watt be quiet! Straight Power 11 80 Plus Gold
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PSU is good for your config.
cris_cs7 said:
I will make a photo later with side pane removed. I guess you want to see the setup for the airflow, otherwise there is nothing special going on there.
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Yes - to see what's going on with airflow there.
If there's sufficient (not obstructed) air intake,​
enough fans installed,​
fans in correct orientation (not fighting each other and/or natural airflow direction).​
 
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cris_cs7 said:
  1. PSU is: 650 Watt be quiet! Straight Power 11 80 Plus Gold
  2. CPU: Ryzen 5 5600X 6x 3.70GHz
I will make photo from transparent side of case. The psu is below the metal frame (which came with the case) and the fan is pointing up.
That metal box is separrating psu fan from motherboard
The case has only 2 coolers, the blue led right bottom one and up left one without light.

Gpu fan is under the gpu,

Photo:
https://ibb.co/qN9bpPq
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psu fan goin up when there is metal like zero airflow? whut
psus these days are designed to work on low operating temperatures, have separate airflow from your pc, at bottom of PC case should be hole where your psu fan should point to, psu takes air from there and pushes it outside of case, that keeps psu cooled and not affecting other PC parts

PSU-airflow-bottom-mounted.jpg
 
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cris_cs7 said:
Photo:
https://ibb.co/qN9bpPq
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You forgot to remove side panel. Can't see orientation of front fan.

What is model name of your pc case?
You may need to install additional one or 2 front intake fans.
And PSU has to be positioned with fan facing down. There have to be vents in the case under PSU, where fresh air gets drawn in.

BTW you still have a plastic peel on your glass side panel.
 
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SkyNetRising said:
You forgot to remove side panel. Can't see orientation of front fan.

What is model name of your pc case?
You may need to install additional one or 2 front intake fans.
And PSU has to be positioned with fan facing down. There have to be vents in the case under PSU, where fresh air gets drawn in.

BTW you still have a plastic peel on your glass side panel.
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@kerberos_20 as well

I uploaded a video describing my case, should be easier than static photo.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIcIGb6QbYE


important update!!!:

After running benchmark with open case it max and average temp were around 6-7 degree less
Results with open case:
https://ibb.co/W6mxmXh

Results with closed case:
https://ibb.co/Jm4gSqS
 
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Did you run any benchmarks on your old GPU? It would be good to compare those with these new ones.

Try running 3DMark Time Spy (with default settings). That'll give you a huge database of scores to compare with. Also, as @kerberos_20 said, comparing benchmarks at different resolutions is meaningless - you need like-for-like statistics.

Edit - Do you have a fan at the top of your case? Your front fan is bringing air into the case and your CPU and rear case fan are pushing air to the left (out the back of the case) which is correct.
I do see a problem though. Your PSU isn't getting any airflow. That case is designed for older PSUs that have a small fan on either the back (where the power switch is) or on the front (where the power cables come out of). This PSU has a larger fan on top, right up against solid metal, with absolutely no airflow grill/holes. Can you take that PSU housing off?
 
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cris_cs7 said:
Yes I do, it is Master MasterBox E500L

So the benchmark with superposition resulted in 6-8 degree celsius less with open case... max gpu temp was 71 https://ibb.co/W6mxmXh, and with closed case 78 average higher as well... https://imgbb.com/Jm4gSqS

Letting the case always open is not an option so how to improve the situation...
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try better cable management, may not help much as your intake is underpowered, but it will make less obstacles for air to move around
 
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