Wow, great solution to my problem and will def keep in mind for any future problems. Recently I realized I had two inactive user profiles that I had not created. No idea where they came from or how long they had existed since they had never been logged in to. Anyway, so Windows 10 Home doesn't allow the the Local Users and Group utility to be used (deprecated) but I couldn't find any way to eliminate these two goofy profiles (they were visible through Net User at CMD which I was just messing around with but when I first realized they existed). I chased around the web for a couple of hours and really didn't find anything useful about where they came from or what to do about them except use the aforementioned deprecated Windows feature which doesn't work and NETPLWIZ didn't work either. So I found an open-source replacement on GitHuib called lusrmgr. I know, don't DL things you don't know about but I'm fearlessly stupid sometimes and so I DLed and ran MWB and defender on the DL file. VirusTotal was OK about it and MWB found nothing but...Defender wouldn't work! a full MWB scan yielded nothing. Could not get Defender to start at all. Services had some problems also.
So anyway I ran the GitHub DL and YAY it got rid of those two profiles!
So back to the why won't Defender run problem. Chasing around the web gave me no help until I found this GREAT TRICK by Ed Tittel. I used MCT to put current/same version of Windows (21H2) on USB, ran setup and despite some weasel-y language about removing some apps but keeping my data I found that everything was running great. I didn't lose any apps, a couple of settings did get changed (haven't figured out what all) and data was safe! Also, Defender was working just fine. When I open MWB it works fine. It does turn off Defender, as expected and will fun a scan and if I quit MWB then Defender returns as the default protection. I'm very happy with Ed's suggestion. BTW, I did read the article about the repaid Gotcha but I did not experience this issue. So THANKS, ED!!!!
Lastly, Windows Security Service (Services.msc) is still grayed out and can't be stopped or started via properties so not sure what's happening there but a problem for another time as long as in Windows Settings Security is working and can be changed. Again, thanks, ED.
So anyway I ran the GitHub DL and YAY it got rid of those two profiles!
So back to the why won't Defender run problem. Chasing around the web gave me no help until I found this GREAT TRICK by Ed Tittel. I used MCT to put current/same version of Windows (21H2) on USB, ran setup and despite some weasel-y language about removing some apps but keeping my data I found that everything was running great. I didn't lose any apps, a couple of settings did get changed (haven't figured out what all) and data was safe! Also, Defender was working just fine. When I open MWB it works fine. It does turn off Defender, as expected and will fun a scan and if I quit MWB then Defender returns as the default protection. I'm very happy with Ed's suggestion. BTW, I did read the article about the repaid Gotcha but I did not experience this issue. So THANKS, ED!!!!
Lastly, Windows Security Service (Services.msc) is still grayed out and can't be stopped or started via properties so not sure what's happening there but a problem for another time as long as in Windows Settings Security is working and can be changed. Again, thanks, ED.